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posted by martyb on Tuesday April 06 2021, @11:13PM   Printer-friendly
from the one-ring-to-rule-them-all dept.

From Russia with Rings

Soviet nostalgia. Their own version of Lord of the Rings from 1991 has been found in an old TV-archive, digitized and uploaded to YouTube. It looks just like what one could expect from a eastern European puppet show from decades ago -- even if it's live action. It only aired once before the collapse of the Soviet Union, not that they are related events. While it doesn't have the production value of the Jackson version, it does have things he chose to cut from the books.

Khraniteli1: The Soviet take on Lord of the Rings
Soviet TV version of Lord of the Rings rediscovered after 30 years
Keepers, Part 12
Keepers, Part 23

1 Keepers
2 Хранители | Часть 1 | Телеспектакль по мотивам повести Д.Р.Р.Толкиена - Keepers | Part 1 | Teleplay based on the novel by J.R.R. Tolkien
3 Хранители | Часть 2 | Телеспектакль по мотивам повести Д.Р.Р.Толкиена - Keepers | Part 2 | Teleplay based on the novel by J.R.R. Tolkien

[Ed Note - Translations via Google Translate. Please provide any corrections in the comments.]

Soviet TV Version of Lord of the Rings Rediscovered After 30 Years

The Guardian reports that a Soviet television adaptation of The Lord of the Rings — thought to have been lost to time — was rediscovered and posted on YouTube last week, delighting Russian-language fans of JRR Tolkien.

The 1991 made-for-TV film, Khraniteli, based on Tolkien’s "The Fellowship of the Ring", is the only adaptation of his Lord of the Rings trilogy believed to have been made in the Soviet Union. Few knew about its existence until Leningrad Television’s successor, 5TV, abruptly posted the film to YouTube last week [part one | part two], where it has gained more than 800,000 views within several days.


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  • (Score: 1) by Arik on Tuesday April 06 2021, @11:30PM (15 children)

    by Arik (4543) on Tuesday April 06 2021, @11:30PM (#1134076) Journal
    (Через перевод.)

    Английские субтитры? Пожалуйста?

    Кто-то должен говорить по-русски.

    Чертова кириллица мне.

    Я немного знаю только греческий, но не кириллицу, извините.
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  • (Score: 2) by istartedi on Tuesday April 06 2021, @11:40PM (13 children)

    by istartedi (123) on Tuesday April 06 2021, @11:40PM (#1134078) Journal

    When I looked at it, there was close-captioning in Russian, which you could run through automatic translation. This works about as well as you'd expect, which is to say *badly*. So if there's demand for human-translated English subtitles, maybe we'll get it but don't hold your breath. I think it'd have to be a labor of love on somebody's part.

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    • (Score: 2) by Arik on Tuesday April 06 2021, @11:46PM (4 children)

      by Arik (4543) on Tuesday April 06 2021, @11:46PM (#1134080) Journal
      Yes, it would, but if this is really a lost classic, I'd expect there's some love for it around.

      Most of the lovers monolingual Russian but surely not all.

      Hence the post.

      I find that, knowing the story already, and recognizing cognates occasionally, I can make sense of several of the scenes without knowing a word of Russian that hasn't shown up in English language newsprint recently.

      Others are genuinely baffling, however. A genuine fansub would really make this a lot more understandable.
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      • (Score: 2) by looorg on Wednesday April 07 2021, @12:19AM (1 child)

        by looorg (578) on Wednesday April 07 2021, @12:19AM (#1134090)

        It wouldn't hurt with some proper, fan made, subs. My language skills are not good enough to understand it even if I know and am familiar with the story. That said I can still enjoy it for what it is without knowing the language, sort of like you can hum along to songs in foreign languages without knowing a word they are saying. That said it's probably somewhat of acquired taste and perhaps something for the die hard Ring fans.

        That said I'm wondering if this has potential to become like a cult classic, something that looks so bad it might become "good". Sort of like the Star Wars x-mas special bad ...

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday April 07 2021, @12:46AM

          by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday April 07 2021, @12:46AM (#1134104)

          The Star Wars Holiday Special is its own unique kind of bad...

      • (Score: 2) by Freeman on Wednesday April 07 2021, @03:57PM (1 child)

        by Freeman (732) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday April 07 2021, @03:57PM (#1134323) Journal

        I know someone already mentioned the Star Wars Christmas special, but I imagine this "lost classic" is about as "classic" as the Star Wars Christmas special. Otherwise known as horrifically awful, but possibly awful enough to be good in some ways.

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        • (Score: 3, Touché) by Arik on Friday April 09 2021, @02:46AM

          by Arik (4543) on Friday April 09 2021, @02:46AM (#1135178) Journal
          And that's exactly the sort of thing we can't hope to appreciate without good subtitles, or spending a lifetime studying Russian.

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    • (Score: 2) by maxwell demon on Wednesday April 07 2021, @05:59AM (6 children)

      by maxwell demon (1608) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday April 07 2021, @05:59AM (#1134183) Journal

      How did you copy/paste the subtitles? I wanted to see how DeepL did on them, but couldn't copy them from the transcript on YouTube.

      BTW, the Russian subtitles are automatically generated. I don't know Russian, but my experience with automatically generated subtitles on YouTube in general tells me that already the source material for the translation isn't too well. Also the subtitle for 2:08 reads not something Russian/Kyrillic, but “you do”, which I'm pretty sure was not in the original text, further hinting at the quality of the subtitles.

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      • (Score: 2) by istartedi on Wednesday April 07 2021, @06:40AM (5 children)

        by istartedi (123) on Wednesday April 07 2021, @06:40AM (#1134190) Journal

        It's not immediately obvious, but when you click the gear icon, then click Subtitles, another sub-menu appears. Then you can choose auto-translate and it will give you a choice of languages.

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        • (Score: 2) by maxwell demon on Wednesday April 07 2021, @07:59AM

          by maxwell demon (1608) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday April 07 2021, @07:59AM (#1134206) Journal

          So I get there's no way to translate it with anything other than Google Translate (other than manually typing all the subtitles)?

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        • (Score: 2) by maxwell demon on Wednesday April 07 2021, @08:01AM (3 children)

          by maxwell demon (1608) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday April 07 2021, @08:01AM (#1134207) Journal

          Also, I don't even get the Auto-translate option; maybe that's only available on mobile?

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          • (Score: 2) by Magic Oddball on Wednesday April 07 2021, @09:03AM

            by Magic Oddball (3847) on Wednesday April 07 2021, @09:03AM (#1134212) Journal

            They should also work in the desktop version of Firefox, though for some reason the option for auto-translation will only appear in the "Subtitles/CC" section of the gear-icon menu after the CC icon has been clicked on to turn on captions.

          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday April 07 2021, @05:22PM

            by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday April 07 2021, @05:22PM (#1134353)

            It works on a PC with FireFox.

          • (Score: 2) by Arik on Friday April 09 2021, @03:02AM

            by Arik (4543) on Friday April 09 2021, @03:02AM (#1135188) Journal
            It's probably relying on some nonsense you disabled. Just use a vanilla $any_insane_browser in a fresh vm and it will show right up.

            You're missing nothing but hilarity however.

            Well it manages to get most of some of the really easier videos I suppose. In and of itself a feat; by last decades standards, but it hasn't improved much. Imagine an autistic south asian 9 year old who doesn't understand English but has been working REALLY HARD for 3 years now at transcribing it phonetically without knowing a single word. And he's dang good at it, thank you very much.

            But he's still transcribing the sounds themselves, de zounz mselvz. We got another autistic kid, this one's 11 and he's from east asia and also doesn't speak a word of English, but he's been at it 4 years and he's real good at looking at the phonetic transcript and matching that up with a word from the English dictionary.

            They're both really amazing at what they're doing; but the end result still is far from good in most cases.

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    • (Score: 4, Funny) by kazzie on Wednesday April 07 2021, @10:11AM

      by kazzie (5309) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday April 07 2021, @10:11AM (#1134220)

      Lest we be accused of double-standards, Peter Jackson's Fellowship Of The Ring also had some bad captions [archive.org].

  • (Score: 3, Funny) by driverless on Wednesday April 07 2021, @04:09AM

    by driverless (4770) on Wednesday April 07 2021, @04:09AM (#1134167)

    They're taking the hobbits to Leningrad, to Leningrad, to Leningrad,
    They're taking the hobbits to Leningrad...