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Cruise industry salty over CDC plan to keep travelers safe from COVID at sea:
The cruise industry is rather salty about the latest federal guidance for safe pandemic sailing, calling it "burdensome" and "unworkable. "
The new guidance is an updated phase of the Framework for Conditional Sailing Order (CSO), released April 2 by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. While it does not mandate vaccinations for all staff and cruisegoers, it does recommend the shots and requires added layers of health measures to try giving any onboard COVID-19 outbreaks the heave-ho—which is exceedingly difficult to do on the tightly packed, highly social vessels.
Among several changes, the guidance requires cruise operators to increase how frequently they report the number of COVID-19 cases onboard, upping reporting from weekly to daily. It also requires cruise lines to implement new routine testing for crew members. Additionally, the guidance requires that cruise lines have agreements set up with port authorities and local health authorities to ensure that, in the event of an outbreak, there will be coordination and infrastructure necessary to safely quarantine, isolate, and treat passengers and crew on land.
Once those requirements are met, cruise operators can run mock cruises with volunteer passengers and, if all goes well, apply for a "Conditional Sailing Certificate."
In a statement released Monday, the prominent industry trade group Cruise Lines International Association released a statement calling the new guidance "unduly burdensome, largely unworkable."
The CLIA claims the health guidance "deprives US workers from participating in the economic recovery" and provides "no discernable path forward or timeframe for resumption" of cruises originating in the country. The group ended its statement by urging the Biden administration to "consider the ample evidence that supports lifting the CSO this month to allow for the planning of a controlled return to service this summer."
(Score: 3, Funny) by Barenflimski on Thursday April 08 2021, @01:55PM (2 children)
Your premise is flawed. You presume that we aren't capable of determining our own exposure levels and our own risk levels. You presume that we aren't able to assess our own risk. Your presumptions are wrong.
Just to give you an idea, our sites are vaccinating 18,000 people a day within 50 miles of my house. That is on top of the people 50+ that have already been getting vaccinated for the last two months.
In my world, every person I know, friend and family, that is over 50 has been vaccinated, or has made a personal choice not to. My community is largely vaccinated. The people I know are ready to move on whether it kills them or not. According to the science, because they are vaccinated, they will not end up in the hospital.
(Score: 2) by Booga1 on Thursday April 08 2021, @03:36PM
People willfully ignore their exposure risks and obviously can't determine their exposure levels until it's too late. As it turns out, some people will not actually avoid the plague.
Study after study has shown that people are atrocious at assessing risk. We've just proven that with the aforementioned surge from Thanksgiving and Christmas. You place too much faith in people's judgement. Perhaps you live in place with a smarter population, but around here we're seeing a 30-50% rise in cases over the last two weeks. We're possibly going to have to go backward a step or two in our reopening phases. People feel safer now that the vaccines are getting distributed, but around here they're acting dumber. They're exhausted and they've let their guard down too early.
This is what will happen with the cruise lines: They will make mistakes. They will not follow procedures. They will have outbreaks, I guarantee it. That's why they don't want to do the testing and reporting. No tests, no cases, no bad publicity. Money first, screw the safety of the passengers and crew. There's always more to replace them.
(Score: 3, Interesting) by bussdriver on Thursday April 08 2021, @05:20PM
We can trust all drivers with our lives; drunk driving is a myth and traffic laws are just a big government mind game...
It really should be obvious that many people are NOT capable of determining a hell of a lot. In the USA, we can't even determine what a valid election is.
You do realize the bats, etc. don't all die of the diseases they spread? Your HPV still hasn't killed you; if you ever got a chance to spread it, you'd not be with your partner long enough to find out about what you gave them.
You can still get and spread a virus you are unharmed by; new strains you people are breeding will be beyond containment by the time they are discovered. Odds are low enough to resume many things if people take precautions.... but we still have assholes who LIE about being vaccinated just to not wear a mask. Yeah, I'm going to believe them... let them determine what risk I have to be exposed to. In my area school sports spiked it twice as parents and students LIED simply so they keep playing a pointless GAME! people died; unfortunately, not the guilty.