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The Charade in DC will run until November 2022, at least

Journal by fustakrakich

Joe Manchin stands as firm as Jabel-al-Tariq

How perfect!

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  • (Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday April 11 2021, @03:38AM (3 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday April 11 2021, @03:38AM (#1135911)

    They will know when the filibuster is used when the votes are counted.

    Are you actually this stupid?

    Do you even know what a filibuster is? Because if a filibuster is used, there are no votes yet counted, because the process wasn't allowed to get to a vote, because of a filibuster. That's the entire aspect of a filibuster. One or more senators keep talking, and the bill never makes it to a vote, until someone compromises somewhere (or the 65 votes [or whatever the supermajority amount] needed occur on the point of halting an ongoing filibuster.

    And the republicans have said in so many words that they will block everything the dems propose.

    And you believe everything a politician says? "Politician" really ought to be defined in the dictionary as: "professional liar".

    Did you even read my piece on the value? The value is in causing the majority (the group with 50+1 votes) to stop and at least try to come to a compromise with the minority (the group with only 49 votes) due to the threat that the minority might use a filibuster. So naturally the minority will threaten to filibuster, that's the value add of having it as an available option. It's mere presence, and the mere threat it might be used, increases the likelihood of a compromise (note, 'likelihood', not guarantee).

    As well, has there been a filibuster used yet since this congress took their seats in Jan? If the answer is no, then shut the fuck up until one actually gets deployed.

    Failure to pass falls on the majority.

    Point out where I said otherwise.

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  • (Score: 1, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday April 11 2021, @05:35PM (1 child)

    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday April 11 2021, @05:35PM (#1136066)

    Arguing with him is pointless, he is just using your comment to push his both-sides-but-dems-bad narrative. Justashill.

    • (Score: 1, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday April 11 2021, @06:18PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Sunday April 11 2021, @06:18PM (#1136076)

      So very true.

      One wonders if he is a paid shill.

      And if so, who is paying, and by how much?

  • (Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Sunday April 11 2021, @06:43PM

    by fustakrakich (6150) on Sunday April 11 2021, @06:43PM (#1136089) Journal

    Point out where I said otherwise.

    By saying the filibuster can be useful. It is only useful to the minority, and to the majority as an excuse for failure. It is bullshit. The democrats are in the majority. All failure is on them, not the republicans. Ignore the republicans, and put the squeeze on your Joe Manchin to push through the blockage. Anybody with his power has a weak spot, use it, and quityerbellyachin"! Or you can let the republicans win back their majority, which suits your DNC just fine. It's not slowing down the money or reducing reelection rates. From their viewpoint the machine is running very smoothly. You guys are oiling and powering it.

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    La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..