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Japanese doctors perform world's first living donor lung transplant to a Covid-19 patient:
[...] Kyoto University Hospital said the woman underwent an 11-hour operation by a 30-strong medical team on Wednesday to transplant lung tissue from her husband and son.
Covid-19 is known to cause severe lung damage in some patients, and people around the world -- including the United States -- have received lung transplants as part of their recovery from the disease.
But the Kyoto hospital said this case was the first in which lung tissue had been transplanted from living donors to a Covid-19 patient.
Dr. Hiroshi Date, a thoracic surgeon at the hospital who led the operation, said it gave hope to patients suffering from severe lung damage from Covid-19.
(Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday April 10 2021, @12:11PM (5 children)
In Japan, a son happily gives his lung to save his mother. In America, a son lives in basement and eats Twinkies while his mother dies upstairs. No wonder Asia is going to rule the 21st century while Americans just become fatter and fatter.
(Score: 1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday April 10 2021, @12:38PM (1 child)
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday April 10 2021, @03:47PM
Nope. It's embalmed and propped up next to the fireplace.
(Score: 3, Insightful) by crafoo on Saturday April 10 2021, @01:21PM (1 child)
"No wonder Asia is going to rule the 21st century while"
Racistss. So all slant-eyes are just Asians; one culture, one people, one history?
Japan will not rule the 21st century. Japan is dying. Neither will Korea, for many of the same reasons. The stats clearly illustrate why.
China will rule the 21st century. They may do battle with Muslims but they will ultimately prevail and rule the world.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday April 10 2021, @02:54PM
Racist. You think all yellow people in China are just Chinese; one culture, one people, one history?
Manchu will not rule the 21st century. Manchu are dying. Neither will Hui, for many of the same reasons.
Han will rule the 21st century. Maybe with help from trusty Gaoshan. Agree with you though that they're doing us all a favor by battling Muslims.
(Score: 2, Flamebait) by fakefuck39 on Saturday April 10 2021, @10:05PM
In Japan (the country where I have lived, and which you are making up random stuff about), the son does not happily give his lung to anyone. The son's happiness and choice are not considered - he is told to give the lung to his mother, he has a choice to go cry about it, as long as he does it out of sight.
Asia is in the 19th century. All of Asia. Japan specifically has:
-holiday celebrating their fallen ww2 heroes, at a memorial for them. they aren't taught about what happened in ww2 in school.
-12 hour * 6 day workweek. They mostly sit there doing redundant busywork - zero productivity tools are used. American workers are probably 10x productive per hour. While producing some cool tech, they don't use any of it. Email a file to someone across town? Nah, burn it on a CD and have it delivered by bike courier. No, I'm not kidding.
-You are hired for a job after college. Your productivity is irrelevant - you just need to be present there 2/3 of your life. The company plans what you do on your free time, what restaurants you go to, and what woman you marry. The day you start out of college, you are able to tell what position you will hold at the company, and how much you'll make, till you retire.
-Their infrastructure is crumbling worse than in the states. Their houses are built to last about 20-30 years (who wants to live in a used house - that's gross).
-Wives don't have sex with husbands. They do send them to hookers. If you're old and your wife is dead, the hookers are paid for by health insurance. While this may seem progressive, it's the opposite. The social development is so lacking, that literally a man is scared of a woman and cannot get laid on his own. They do recognize zero sex will cause depression and health issues, but address the symptom, not the cause. Very progressive indeed.
You said "Asia." I've covered Japan. Let's cover China, the other big part of Asia. Also a place I've been, not just on a short tourist trip. Actually, let's not address it. If you think China is ruling the 21st century, there is no arguing w/ you, you're just an idiot. Their GPD per capita is 7x less than America - there's just many of 'dem ants. They're the busboys of the world. You just said busboys are going to rule the restaurant business. Congratulations, you are literally a clinical retard.
>while Americans just become fatter and fatter
ah yes, the stereotype of the southern fat redneck. the tiny minority of the population - just a loud one.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_body_mass_index [wikipedia.org]
were#1 in fatness!! hmm, no, we're #25th.
And, having been to Japan and China.. The people who can afford it, are usually quite overweight. It's a status symbol - getting laid in those countries has nothing to do w/ looking attractive. What you're thinking of is Korea here. Japan and China rank pretty low because literally, some people are skinny because they can't get enough food to not be.
So no, In Japan, a son does not give a lung to save his mother happily. He is neither happy, nor does he give anything - it's taken from him. A lung is taken from him. By the duty to his family. Duty that's beaten into him from a young age by that mother.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday April 10 2021, @03:35PM
What exactly are these lung things?
(Score: 4, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday April 10 2021, @03:46PM (5 children)
Your choice is:
Avoid Some vague unsubstantiated side-effect from vaccine
Vs
The chance to experience an 11 hour operation where they cut open your rib cage and dig out your lungs , oh and your closest relative can do it too
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday April 10 2021, @04:00PM
(Score: 1) by js290 on Sunday April 11 2021, @03:33AM (2 children)
(Score: 2) by oumuamua on Sunday April 11 2021, @02:42PM (1 child)
What it boils down to is fear and trust.
Those getting the vaccine fear the virus and what it can do to their bodies and trust that the vaccine trials were done correctly, yes we trust the FDA.
Anti-vaxxers fear the vaccine more than the virus and trust random people on the internet.
I know I won't persuade you, however we can both take comfort in karma; whoever is wrong, the real world will soon let them know their mistake.
(Score: 1) by js290 on Sunday April 11 2021, @05:29PM
see Cutter Incident... BTW, we can have universal health by shutting down the UDSA & FDA...
Strawman arg... random people on internet voice similar concerns... Principal-agent problem: why would you trust random people in the FDA?
I'm not here to persuade anyone, only to point out people should not let the anti-vax ad hominem pejorative dissuade them from their own concerns.
Behavioral herd immunity... I can alter my behavior to reduce my and other's risks without ceding that responsibility to vax manufacturers who are protected from damage liability.
(Score: 2) by mcgrew on Sunday April 11 2021, @04:37PM
Over half a million people have died from covid in the US alone, where it's now the third leading cause of death. Meanwhile, out of the entire world's population not a single person has died from any of the vaccines for it.
Everyone knows those facts, yet you think you can convince the hesitant??
Carbon, The only element in the known universe to ever gain sentience
(Score: 2, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday April 10 2021, @03:57PM (1 child)
With Covid as a pre-existing condition, this was more a medical stunt than a realistic therapy. A more realistic approach would have been to kill off the immune system and transplant one lung and bone marrow from the same donor to lessen the chance of rejection and the need for a lifetime of immunosuppressive drugs.
(Score: 0, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday April 10 2021, @04:28PM
Well, since she was already 104 years old and very wealthy, and her son and husband were only 53 and 42 respectively, it was considered a reasonable risk for everyone involved.
(Score: 3, Insightful) by EJ on Saturday April 10 2021, @07:48PM (2 children)
If you're going to die without one of my lungs or kidneys, then you have my condolences.
I'll happily donate bone marrow or maybe even a piece of my liver that will grow back, but I simply cannot imagine giving up a piece of my body that I may need later. Call me selfish if you want, but just no. I can't do it.
(Score: 2) by Snotnose on Saturday April 10 2021, @09:10PM (1 child)
This. Bone marrow, blood, no problem. Kidney/liver, I'll need to think about it. Half a lung? Hell, I get out of breath too often now to even consider it. Lungs don't grow back, when they're gone they're gone.
Then again, when I was married I'd have given a lung to the wife.
Actually, if my ex-wife needed a lung I would really have to think about it.
I came. I saw. I forgot why I came.
(Score: 1) by js290 on Sunday April 11 2021, @03:05AM