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posted by martyb on Saturday April 10, @02:11PM   Printer-friendly
from the people-have-spoken dept.

https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2021/04/the-amazon-union-drive-in-alabama-appears-headed-for-defeat/

Update: A majority of workers have voted not to form a union at the Amazon Fulfillment Center in Bessemer, Alabama. The result of the NLRB's initial vote count was 1,798 votes against the union and 738 in favor. Hundreds of additional ballots were not counted because their authenticity was disputed. But the "no" side already has a majority of the 3,215 votes cast, making the issue moot.

Original story, April 8: A closely watched effort to unionize an Amazon fulfillment center in Bessemer, Alabama appears to be headed for defeat. With about half the votes counted, 1,100 workers have voted against forming a union, while only 463 voted in favor.

The National Labor Relations Board is counting the 3,215 votes that were cast by workers at the Bessemer facility. The union needs to win at least half the votes in order to become the official representative of the roughly 6,000 workers at the Bessemer facility. Counting has ended for the evening and is scheduled to resume at 8:30 am Central Time on Friday.

Also at The Washington Post, c|net, and Al Jazeera.


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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday April 10, @07:48PM (13 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday April 10, @07:48PM (#1135770)

    (had a computer graphics degree),

    Those “degrees” have no value. Adult education programs shorn them out in bulk, and the “graduates” have wasted money on a worthless certificate. It’s a scam that the government often subsidizes to keep unemployed people from showing up as unemployed on the official statistics, same as the “learn to be a webmasters assistant “ (whatever the fuck that is) or “learn to code in 3 months.

    So a year later they’re still unemployed, but because officially they’ve changed trades, they are only qualified for regular unemployment benefits, which run out so they end up on state welfare roles. A different budget from a different agency, so somebody else’s problem.

    Look for them scrounging on fiver for scraps.

  • (Score: 2, Disagree) by fakefuck39 on Saturday April 10, @07:58PM (12 children)

    by fakefuck39 (6620) on Saturday April 10, @07:58PM (#1135773)

    literally every movie made and every ad and publication and book is made by someone w a cg degree. you are an idiot. and my friend got his cg degree 3 years after finishing highschool, so what are you even on about? a college degree is not a certificate. yeah, i know, you and your peers have "certificates." you live in a shitty blue collars world. you're the ant my peers step on. enjoy your groceries from walmart and your truck.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday April 10, @10:03PM (2 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Saturday April 10, @10:03PM (#1135823)

      If you believe a tradesman who sat on unemployment had a university degree you’re the idiot. And if you think all those book publishers and magazines are paying more than gig economy rates you’re doubly an idiot.

      Print graphics arts is dying. Same as print. Which is why high schools are offering certificates in print graphics - they don’t give a shit if you can earn a living - they’re just there to make money off you from their continuing education certificate mills while helping people extend their unemployment benefits. Same as all those “offices automation” certification programs that just teach you Working d.

      You can tell when the economy is bad for significant portions of the population when the TV ads for such scams move from 1 AM to daytime TV.

      • (Score: 1, Troll) by fakefuck39 on Saturday April 10, @10:31PM (1 child)

        by fakefuck39 (6620) on Saturday April 10, @10:31PM (#1135833)

        I went to college with him for the first year before I switched majors, and went to his graduation. Starting salaries for CG are a lot less, and if you already know almost enough to become an electrician, it's a valid choice. Literally everything you visually see is made by someone w/ a CG degree, print or any media. Even the web UI you use on most websites. CG is not "print media" lol. Everything you see with your eyes that's not naturally made, is made on a computer is CG - yes, even the dashboard design on your car. And the logo of the car maker.

        >You can tell when the economy is bad for significant portions of the population when the TV ads for such scams move from 1 AM to daytime TV.

        and the ad for that scam was made by a CG artist. Congratulations, you are literally dumber than a doorknob. Those ads are for CG certificate programs at non-accredited "universities" like Trump-U. That's not a college degree. That's what you and your peers have and are angry at. Enjoy your shitty world, angry redneck ant. The rest of us, we qualify for real colleges.

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday April 11, @02:17PM

          by Anonymous Coward on Sunday April 11, @02:17PM (#1136017)
          First, there’s a BIG difference” between CG (computer graphics) and CGI (computer generated graphics). One is “oh I can use Photoshop”, the other is a lot harder.

          Second, when you write “ Even the web UI you use on most websites. CG is not "print media" - you really betray your ignorant of all those Photoshop monkeys making mock-ups of web site interfaces that are SO fücked up. Because they replaced functionality with pretty, forgetting that form should follow function. Otherwise we’d all be eating with sporks “because it’s different, and in theory should be more efficient.”

          Seriously, there’s as big a difference between a shit CG and CGI as there is between a course in office information that teaches Microsoft Word and real office automation.

          UZ “experts” need to die.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday April 11, @04:30AM (5 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Sunday April 11, @04:30AM (#1135929)

      You truly say the stupidest shit. "literally every movie made" is made by someone with a cg degree? Computer graphics in movies weren't even around until the 70's, and then only used sparingly until the 90's. Ditto for books which predate computers by centuries. You are completely fucking retarded.

      • (Score: 2, Flamebait) by fakefuck39 on Sunday April 11, @05:12AM (4 children)

        by fakefuck39 (6620) on Sunday April 11, @05:12AM (#1135943)

        saying stupid shit would be reading a statement for the present tense, pretending it's past tense, like "literally every movie ever made" - and then attacking that strawman for the whole internet to see. but, talking about past tense, those computer graphics artists were just graphics artists before, getting that degree from that same famous Chicago Art Institute.

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday April 11, @05:25AM (3 children)

          by Anonymous Coward on Sunday April 11, @05:25AM (#1135947)

          "Made" is already past tense. The dog made a mess. Titantic was made in the 1990's. I made you look stupid again. But then again you've shown repeatedly that your English isn't very good, not to mention that you aren't exactly the sharpest tool in the shed.

          • (Score: 1, Troll) by fakefuck39 on Sunday April 11, @06:08PM (2 children)

            by fakefuck39 (6620) on Sunday April 11, @06:08PM (#1136071)

            me: The dog made a mess
            you: how do you know, were you there in 1850 when the dog made a mess?

            when someone says "movies are made using CG" they mean made now, in recent times. they're not talking about metropolis made in 1920. you ESL immigrant retard. learn a language before using it. when we say "cars are made with airbags" and you point out that the ford model 1, available only in black, did not have airbags, you're screaming to the internet that you are a retarded clown.

            English. Learn it before living in this country.

            • (Score: 2, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday April 11, @07:21PM (1 child)

              by Anonymous Coward on Sunday April 11, @07:21PM (#1136103)

              Yes, literally every car was made with airbags, like how literally every movie was made using CG. I like how you try to lecture someone on English when you can't properly use capitalization, punctuation, or can barely form a coherent sentence. You're truly a special kind of stupid, someone who is so fucking stupid they don't even realize just how fucking stupid they really are.

              • (Score: 2) by fakefuck39 on Monday April 12, @02:32AM

                by fakefuck39 (6620) on Monday April 12, @02:32AM (#1136232)

                as someone who knows english, i realize that grammar has different levels, and what's appropriate for a phd dissertation or a work email, does not have the same rules as typing on my phone on a random forum with my thumb, as i'm taking a shit. when someone tells you "literally every movie made" and you assume it to mean "every movie ever made" - you do not know english - either due to being an immigrant, or a dumb redneck. yes, literally every single movie made, but not ever made, is made using computer graphics. even one with zero special effects. because to even put shots together into a movie, you'd use something like adobe premiere. on a computer. you absolute doorknob. there is zero things that are visual made today, that do not use computer graphics. even a silk-screen sign you order from a sign shop, that some redneck made by hand, starts on a computer.

    • (Score: 2) by Tork on Sunday April 11, @09:00PM (2 children)

      by Tork (3914) on Sunday April 11, @09:00PM (#1136128)

      literally every movie made and every ad and publication and book is made by someone w a cg degree.

      No part of this sentence is true.

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      • (Score: 2) by fakefuck39 on Monday April 12, @02:18AM (1 child)

        by fakefuck39 (6620) on Monday April 12, @02:18AM (#1136226)

        no, now you.

        we make graphics on computers now these days boomer. the area of study to make graphics on computers is called computer graphics. to make a simple book with only text both inside and on the cover, software like quark and indesign is used. the area of study which teaches you those is called computer graphics.

        but go on about how leading is putting pieces of lead between the lines on your printing press. here in the real world, it's a slider you move, set to 120% by default.

        retard.

        • (Score: 2) by Tork on Monday April 12, @02:33AM

          by Tork (3914) on Monday April 12, @02:33AM (#1136233)
          FYI: You left out the operative bit... 'degree'. 🙄 You should type stuff into search engines before spouting off.
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