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posted by martyb on Saturday April 10, @02:11PM   Printer-friendly
from the people-have-spoken dept.

https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2021/04/the-amazon-union-drive-in-alabama-appears-headed-for-defeat/

Update: A majority of workers have voted not to form a union at the Amazon Fulfillment Center in Bessemer, Alabama. The result of the NLRB's initial vote count was 1,798 votes against the union and 738 in favor. Hundreds of additional ballots were not counted because their authenticity was disputed. But the "no" side already has a majority of the 3,215 votes cast, making the issue moot.

Original story, April 8: A closely watched effort to unionize an Amazon fulfillment center in Bessemer, Alabama appears to be headed for defeat. With about half the votes counted, 1,100 workers have voted against forming a union, while only 463 voted in favor.

The National Labor Relations Board is counting the 3,215 votes that were cast by workers at the Bessemer facility. The union needs to win at least half the votes in order to become the official representative of the roughly 6,000 workers at the Bessemer facility. Counting has ended for the evening and is scheduled to resume at 8:30 am Central Time on Friday.

Also at The Washington Post, c|net, and Al Jazeera.


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  • (Score: 1, Troll) by fakefuck39 on Sunday April 11, @04:23AM (14 children)

    by fakefuck39 (6620) on Sunday April 11, @04:23AM (#1135927)

    >Fallacy two: anecdote is not data

    correct. the data is the people who voted against the union. when you see this data, you apparently immediately assume "voter interference," not "oh look, these people don't want a union. you know, like my singular anecdote of "the electricians in Chicago" which also includes several thousand people.

    honestly, I didn't read the rest of your dumb rant, whatever that was. you're literally as dumb as the stop the steal retards, just on the other side of the spectrum. you are the reason people say both sides are the same. because the sides have nothing to do with being a retard. you people (you, the nazi retards, the antimask retards, the blm retards) are the group - the group of retards. within your group, you have different opinions on some things. kinda like russia and ukraine. two monkeys fighting about how different you are. to me, someone who is human, you're still a bunch of monkeys.

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  • (Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Sunday April 11, @04:48AM (13 children)

    by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Sunday April 11, @04:48AM (#1135935) Journal

    You didn't read it because you have a willful reading comprehension issue. You've lived a fast life and sucked all the joy out of it; with nothing left but your own self-delusion and sense of superiority, your tiny, hollow, solipsistic worldview cannot *afford* to consider data that might show you to be wrong in even the smallest respect.

    The "data" say only what they say; I am asking about what is *is* that they say. Yes, there was a majority vote against unionizing: my question is, WHY? That is, what motivated this vote, can we be certain it was truly uncoerced, etc.?

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    • (Score: 1) by khallow on Sunday April 11, @06:43AM (4 children)

      by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Sunday April 11, @06:43AM (#1135964) Journal
      I have to say that we have quite the slap fight in this discussion. There are many who have broken out the supple leather gloves and are delivering profound stings to the face and mighty whiffs that part the hair.
      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday April 11, @02:25PM (2 children)

        by Anonymous Coward on Sunday April 11, @02:25PM (#1136018)
        People who have never enjoyed the benefits of a union job are really not in a position to say unions are bad. A union for coders would go a long way towards eliminating crunch and forcing management to take responsibility for their screwups.
        • (Score: 1) by khallow on Sunday April 11, @10:09PM

          by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Sunday April 11, @10:09PM (#1136144) Journal

          People who have never enjoyed the benefits of a union job are really not in a position to say unions are bad.

          Unless, of course, they have enjoyed the costs of a union job. That seems fairly common.

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 12, @01:27PM

          by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 12, @01:27PM (#1136357)

          Oh boy, this old chestnut again. "You can't learn from the experience of others! Your tiny widdle brain can't do that! You have to try it first! Put on the union hat, you'll love it! Promise!"

          Quite aside from the fact that many coders weren't in that position all their lives, and have been in union positions, many more coders have been in union shops where their position just didn't happen to have been unionised. But you don't seem to think that that counts.

          If it's so great, make your pitch to Microsoft or wherever, see how that goes.

      • (Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Monday April 12, @12:15AM

        by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Monday April 12, @12:15AM (#1136184) Journal

        No "we" don't. Your contribution to this fight is mostly the textual equivalent of belches and farts. Only not as amusing.

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    • (Score: 1, Troll) by fakefuck39 on Sunday April 11, @06:10PM (3 children)

      by fakefuck39 (6620) on Sunday April 11, @06:10PM (#1136072)

      nah, I didn't read it because you're a moron here for my entertainment, and the one line that jumped out at me from your wall of retard-text was enough for me to respond to, to laugh at you. whatever other retard-information you provided is for the birds, and useless to me, for the purpose which you serve for me by typing things here. on a related note, the first few words of the last post is also all I read. but you keep typing.

      • (Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Monday April 12, @12:19AM (2 children)

        by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Monday April 12, @12:19AM (#1136187) Journal

        Sure sure, everyone but you's a moron, placed here by the great Goddess solely for your entertainment. The entire world's disposable except you, we get it. You're the alpha-male, the top dog, the mutant offspring of Chuck Norris, Hugh Hefner, and Albert Einstein, and your power level's over 9000. You've got it alllllllll figured out. Congratulations, you won the game. *paper-squeaker noise*

        ...damn, ow. Warn me next time before you post something like that so I can do some warm-ups on the ol' eye-roller muscles.

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        • (Score: 0, Troll) by fakefuck39 on Monday April 12, @02:23AM (1 child)

          by fakefuck39 (6620) on Monday April 12, @02:23AM (#1136228)

          You are a moron. Your purpose on this site, for me, is solely for my entertainment. I have no other use for morons besides them making me entertained. For you, this site is part of "entire world" as you come here to "socialize" with your keyboard. For me, I've come to a football game to play football. You can complain all you want that football players are unbalanced adults because they attack a guy simply for having a ball, and that they should get psych treatment for whatever is making them do that. For the normal people, we're here to play football, and you're the moron who decided to have a romantic picnic in the middle of a football field, and then complain about how the people playing on that field are acting as unbalanced adults. You are retarded, so it's funny for us normals. Yes, I do have all that figured out. You, in your life, seem to have the internet confused with the physical world. Because of your stupidity, you are and will always be confused, and will always be the clown.

          • (Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Monday April 12, @03:57AM

            by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Monday April 12, @03:57AM (#1136244) Journal

            I didn't read that but it's pretty obvious it's more of the same. So have another -1 Troll, and remember, public masturbation is a crime.

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            I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 12, @04:21PM (2 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 12, @04:21PM (#1136489)

      My reading skills are better than your self-editing skills. It's hard to tell if you hate yourself more than you do any prospective reader.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 12, @05:02PM (1 child)

        by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 12, @05:02PM (#1136513)

        It's much easier to catch errors in other people's code than to write perfect code.

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 12, @05:11PM

          by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 12, @05:11PM (#1136518)

          A good lesson. Instead of bursting in like Crazy Uncle Mame, maybe somebody should go have a cup of coffee, and then do a good self-review (AKA sanity check).

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 12, @05:44PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 12, @05:44PM (#1136548)

      Ping.