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Huawei confirms a June 2, 2021 launch for HarmonyOS
Huawei has set a date for the launch of its first-party operating system, HarmonyOS, in its native China. The software may have originally been intended to replace Android on its smartphones, but may also ship with other new products such as the MatePad Pro 2 and Watch 3, which are also now expected to debut on the same day.
Huawei's HiSilicon Develops First RISC-V Design to Overcome Arm Restrictions
In a bid to overcome US restrictions on its Arm designs, Huawei's HiSilicon has turned to the open-source RISC-V architecture and has even released its first RISC-V board for Harmony OS developers. Due to being blacklisted by the U.S. government, Huawei and its chip division HiSilicon do not have access to development and production technologies designed in America. The restrictions include many Arm processor architectures, including those used in various microcontrollers that Huawei uses widely.
[...] The Hi3861 is aimed mostly at the IoT market, whereas HiSilicon's development efforts were historically aimed at high-margin smartphones, tablets, PCs, and embedded systems. But Huawei needs computing platforms to use for its other devices, so the HiSilicon Hi3861 is just what the doctor ordered at this time.
Huawei Expected to Develop a 3nm Kirin SoC but Release May Happen in 2022, Suggests Latest Trademark
According to the latest reports, Huawei Technologies applied for the registration of the Kirin processors trademark on April 22. In the international classification, it belongs to the category '9 scientific instruments'. This suggests that the Chinese tech giant has not lost hope in making a return to the market. Unfortunately, one of the sanctions placed by the U.S. was that Huawei could not do business with TSMC anymore.
Since TSMC leads ahead of the pack with its cutting-edge nodes, it will be difficult for Huawei to release a 3nm chip without the Taiwanese manufacturer's involvement. Since the 3nm process is yet to mature, we believe that mass production will not start before 2022. It is possible that by then, Huawei may improve relations with American authorities. If it succeeds in reaching an agreement, the Kirin SoC will likely be ready for immediate production.
Xiaomi was recently removed from a U.S Defense Department blacklist.
Also at Notebookcheck.
Previously: Huawei Announces HarmonyOS, a Smartphone OS and Android Alternative
Huawei Might Put its IOT OS on Mobile Phones After All
Huawei to Cease Production of Kirin Smartphone SoCs Due to U.S. Sanctions
Huawei's HarmonyOS 2.0 Beta Released
(Score: 3, Informative) by Runaway1956 on Monday May 24 2021, @07:28PM (5 children)
'On Squandering Power, Authority, and Influence'
I don't mention Good Will, because that's about gone anyway. The genie is out of the bottle, and Washington, D.C. isn't going to stuff the dude back in there.
Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday May 24 2021, @07:37PM (3 children)
Hey, at least our president is a nice, decent man now, who doesn't say mean things on the internet.
(Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Monday May 24 2021, @07:58PM (2 children)
That's because he's too old to know how to use the internet.
(Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Monday May 24 2021, @08:10PM (1 child)
Rumor has it, he's too old to remember how to walk up a flight of stairs. I'm waiting for the regression in potty training. I notice that no one stands close to him in a crowd . . .
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 25 2021, @01:09AM
But he can walk down a ramp AND hold a glass of water in ONE HAND! We haven't been able to say that about a president since Jan 19th, 2016!
(Score: 4, Interesting) by RamiK on Monday May 24 2021, @08:48PM
Honestly considering the rise of ASIC and the fall of Moore's law, it might have been the US's last chance to leverage its chip IP dominance before it loses relevancy anyhow. So it could be argued the problem wasn't the 2019 sanction but the lack of earlier sanction.
Regardless, this 160Mhz single core microcontroller and RTOS OS are hardly a threat to the Intels and Qualcomms of the world while the RISC-V tool-chain is already mature regardless of Huawei adopting it now or not. In fact, the current shortage of MCUs is partly fueled by vendors not looking into investing any further into license extensions since this market tier is clearly going non-proprietary.
Overall, the genie wasn't going to stay in that bottle forever.
compiling...
(Score: 5, Interesting) by Snotnose on Monday May 24 2021, @08:21PM (5 children)
In the next 10-20 years. China has a bunch of super-smart folks. They have a good starting point in RISC-V (and knowledge of ARM, SH-x, MIPS-x, and, dare I say it, x86).
RISC-V will become very powerful in the next 5-10 years, then the Chinese will have their own chip architecture and ISA that will blow Intel out of the water in the CISC arena, and ARM out of the water in the RISC arena. They probably won't be the same architecture, but 2 different strains. Combine that with China's inability to buy from TSMC and friends, and Chinese fabs will be getting pretty good in 10 years (not better than TSMC, or even Intel, but getting there and Good Enough).
I'm old, I'll probably be dead by then, but I would not build my retirement on TSMC nor Intel dividends.
I came. I saw. I forgot why I came.
(Score: 0, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 25 2021, @01:13AM (2 children)
The Chinese will stagnate unless they can keep stealing or blackmailing IP secrets. I'll build my retirement elsewhere until they start showing they can lead instead of follow.
(Score: 4, Interesting) by gawdonblue on Tuesday May 25 2021, @05:14AM (1 child)
Even after the first year of WW2 the, shall we say, "racially complacent" were saying that the Japanese couldn't build competitive armaments such as planes [youtu.be], ships [youtu.be] or torpedoes [youtu.be] than those nations of, shall we also say, European stock such as the Good Ol' USA.
Even when Japanese were acknowledged to have decent equipment it was then often claimed that they must have copied "superior" European/American technologies [youtu.be].
Japan did of course lose that conflict for a number of reasons, the main one being that the USA had a much larger manufacturing capacity - the greatest the World had ever known.
Now you're claiming that the Chinese cannot create anything of their own but can only copy "superior" American technology. Interesting.
And who now has the greatest manufacturing capacity in the World [youtu.be]? Also interesting.
Still feeling complacent?
(Score: 2) by gawdonblue on Tuesday May 25 2021, @05:17AM
That last link should be this instead [brookings.edu].
I checked the first 3 links but then got complacent :)
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 25 2021, @06:33AM
Flexible architectures are the future. Systems that reconfigure themselves on the fly to optimize for any workload will be revolutionary for computing paradigms, and are not that far away... Instruction sets will move toward radical specialization and efficiency that isn't currently feasible, because they can be swapped out on demand.
(Score: 2) by fakefuck39 on Tuesday May 25 2021, @08:00AM
China has nothing. China has ripped off last-gen tech.
Where does this 3nm news come from originally ? Oh, a guy with the last name Li, who chimes in with opinion and theories.
https://www.huaweicentral.com/huawei-3nm-processor-design-under-development-suggests-new-kirin-chip-trademark-and-a-report/ [huaweicentral.com]
Japan has 2 companies that make photo plates, and one company that makes the machine necessary to fix the thousands of errors in each one, before manufacturing can proceed. Those 3 Japanese companies are used by every single chip manufacturer out there - from Intel to our Taiwan and Korea friends, and are all controlled by the US in terms of who they can sell to.
So no, China won't be making a 3nm anything till the rest of the world has been on 1nm for a few years. And, umm, "Harmony OS" - yeah, some chinese operating system, I'm sure that's going to be just groundbreaking, given that 90% of the shit they make is literal shiny plastic garbage that's broken on shipment.
Fun story. Last time I went to China, I was at the hotel and they had this great 3-ply toilet paper. Nice and soft outer layers, and an inner layer that was less porous and a little harder. The perfect combination for a wet poo - which is what you get if you eat the food cooked with sewer oil (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gutter_oil) - which is all food, and drink any of the bottled or tap water (which tastes like soap and gasoline). So, nice, high quality TP.
The holes were misaligned. As in, 3 ply paper, the holes on each ply do not align, so the ply comes apart, your finger slips through sometimes, and when you rip it off, you rip it like a roll of paper. Useless.
Oh, they'll have a 3nm chip by 2022. They'll design some half-working shit, invent a different ruler, and announce to their own people that they now have beaten the rest of the world in CPU design. The world will laugh, they won't care. All this propaganda is for their own people, who willingly believe it, eat it up, and ask "may I have some more gutter oil, Poo-Pooh?"