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posted by martyb on Saturday June 05, @10:49PM   Printer-friendly
from the kill-all-humans dept.

Killer Drone 'Hunted Down A Human Target' Without Being Told To:

After a United Nations commission to block killer robots was shut down in 2018, a new report from the international body now says the Terminator-like drones are now here.

[...] The March 2020 attack was in Libya and perpetrated by a Kargu-2 quadcopter drone produced by Turkish military tech company STM "during a conflict between Libyan government forces and a breakaway military faction led by Khalifa Haftar, commander of the Libyan National Army," the Star reports, adding: "The Kargu-2 is fitted with an explosive charge and the drone can be directed at a target in a kamikaze attack, detonating on impact."

[...] "The lethal autonomous weapons systems were programmed to attack targets without requiring data connectivity between the operator and the munition: in effect, a true 'fire, forget and find' capability" – suggesting the drones attacked on their own.

[...] In August of last year, Human Rights Watch warned of the need for legislation against "killer robots" while NYC mayoral candidate Andrew Yang has called for a global ban on them – something the US and Russia are against.

See also: New Scientist magazine and the Star.


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  • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Monday June 07, @12:58AM (4 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday June 07, @12:58AM (#1142563)

    No, they are very dissimilar, and you can't equate the two. Complete fail.

    I see you fail to grasp the concept. I is not the targeting, it is the decision to target. If you automate the targeting, then it is the target itself that prompts the attack, not the attacker. Now just a certain amount of pressure on a plate may seem different that all the parameters that might go into the programming of a killer robot, put they are exactly the same in that you are setting up those conditions of initiation in advance. That is what makes it a booby-trap.

    And, no one really cares what your problems are with killer drones, Runaway. Just hold still, for a bit.

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  • (Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Monday June 07, @01:43AM (3 children)

    by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Monday June 07, @01:43AM (#1142575) Homepage Journal

    Now just a certain amount of pressure on a plate may seem different that all the parameters that might go into the programming of a killer robot, put they are exactly the same in that you are setting up those conditions of initiation in advance.

    Translation: Poster doesn't understand how a booby trap is made, nor does he understand how to program a drone, therefore the two are equivalent.

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    • (Score: 2) by coolgopher on Wednesday June 09, @03:17AM (2 children)

      by coolgopher (1157) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday June 09, @03:17AM (#1143414)

      It is certainly a wide gap between a pressure plate calibrated for human (or vehicle) weight versus loading a facial recognition profile, but it is an interesting train of thought. At what point between "anyone/thing matching this weight" to "anyone/thing matching this 3d profile" do you go from indiscriminate to discriminate? If your 3d profile is simply a generic anthropomorphic model with wide matching parameters, what then?

      • (Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Wednesday June 09, @04:51AM (1 child)

        by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday June 09, @04:51AM (#1143432) Homepage Journal

        Good question. If your parameters are too broad, well, you'll fail to get the guy you want. The drone/weapon will have been wasted. Of course, that won't stop the military claiming that they actually killed a terrorist, even if that terrorist happens to be a little 6 year old girl playing with dolls.

        I suppose that I've given the benefit of the doubt to the programmers, assuming that they at least tried to use meaningful input.

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        • (Score: 2) by coolgopher on Wednesday June 09, @07:02AM

          by coolgopher (1157) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday June 09, @07:02AM (#1143456)

          If it's a single-shot device, sure, you wasted it. But what if it has whole magazine of "terrorist"-dispatching munition? At that point someone might very well be tempted to go lose with the parameters in an effort to ensure that it /at least/ gets the intended target. A walking sentry gun seems all too doable already...