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posted by mrpg on Sunday June 06 2021, @03:31AM   Printer-friendly
from the good dept.

Reducing poverty can actually lower energy demand, finds research:

[...] We found that households that do have access to clean fuels, safe water, basic education and adequate food—that is, those not in extreme poverty—can use as little as half the energy of the national average in their country.

This is important, as it goes directly against the argument that more resources and energy will be needed for people in the global south to escape extreme poverty. The biggest factor is the switch from traditional cooking fuels, like firewood or charcoal, to more efficient (and less polluting) electricity and gas.

In Zambia, Nepal and Vietnam, modern energy resources are extremely unfairly distributed—more so than income, general spending, or even spending on leisure. As a consequence, poorer households use more dirty energy than richer households, with ensuing health and gender impacts. Cooking with inefficient fuels consumes a lot of energy, and even more when water needs to be boiled before drinking.


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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday June 07 2021, @11:52PM (1 child)

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday June 07 2021, @11:52PM (#1142961)

    Heh, good catch, but libertarians believe the less fortunate should bootstrap their way up and the suffering is the driver. Sociopathy as political party. Of course the REAL libertarians have compassion and understand the need for government interventions, but they believe we should minimize the necessity of government. So far khallow is just cosplaying a libertarian, more like an atheist republican.

  • (Score: 1) by khallow on Tuesday June 08 2021, @03:50AM

    by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday June 08 2021, @03:50AM (#1143020) Journal

    but libertarians believe the less fortunate should bootstrap their way up and the suffering is the driver.

    No, simply that the allegedly "less fortunate" should take care of their own wants and needs as they see them - rather than some poorly informed government bureaucracy deciding what our wants and needs are (or often just deciding to benefit themselves), and then taking actions that often are irrelevant or even harmful. It's not about suffering, it's about people taking care of themselves responsibly without require government intervention.

    Of course the REAL libertarians have compassion and understand the need for government interventions

    Indeed, but when will anyone in this thread mention such a need? Something like national security or emergency services are such needs. A fantasy [soylentnews.org] about 21st Century infrastructure materializing by magic is not such a need. Forcing people to live in the conditions of the poorest on the planet (which incident is a common application of government) is not such a need.

    Perhaps instead of constructing straw men arguments, you could provide a REAL argument?