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Firefox 89: Can this redesign stem browser's decline?:
Mozilla has released Firefox 89, proclaiming it a "fresh new Firefox," though it comes amid a relentless decline in market share.
Firefox matters more than most web browsers, because it uses its own browser engine, called Quantum, and its own JavaScript engine, called SpiderMonkey. By contrast, most other browsers, including Chrome and Chromium, Edge, Brave, Opera, and Vivaldi use the Google-sponsored Blink engine, while Apple's Safari uses WebKit (from which Blink was forked). The existence of multiple independent implementations is important for web standards, helping to prevent a single vendor from pushing through changes without consensus, and ensuring that the standards are coherent.
A glance at a statistics site like W3Counter is telling. In April 2008, Microsoft enjoyed a 63 per cent market share with Internet Explorer, and with Firefox performing strongly behind it at 29.3 per cent. By April 2010, IE was down to 48.6 per cent, Firefox up to 32.7 per cent, and Google's newer Chrome was starting to make an impact, at 8.3 per cent.
In April 2012, the three were almost on a par, though Chrome (26.8 per cent) had overtaken Firefox (25 per cent). Today, Chrome is at 65.3 per cent, Safari second at 16.7 per cent, IE and Edge has 5.7 per cent, and Firefox has just 4.1 per cent share. Despite numerous updates, Mozilla's browser has declined from 6.1 per cent share a year ago. Statcounter tells a similar story, reporting a 3.59 per cent share for Firefox, down from 4.21 per cent a year ago.
(Score: 3, Insightful) by Reziac on Monday June 07 2021, @03:50AM (3 children)
Yeah, YouTube did something recently that screwed up SeaMonkey too. Now the only way it can see any monetized video is if it's embedded somewhere. On YT.com itself, all it sees is an endless parade of unskippable ads, and the requested video never does play. This happens even if I bug out to Hooktube or some other proxy. (Unmonetized vids play normally.)
And there is no Alkibiades to come back and save us from ourselves.
(Score: 2) by looorg on Monday June 07 2021, @11:29AM (2 children)
That seems odd. I don't have that problem. I can watch things just fine. It's just once it loads youtube Palemoon just freezes up for about 5-10 seconds (per tab) as it loads in. I assume it's something with or in the code that is utterly borked and loops around and just steals all priority in the program. I can still use other things on the machine so it's not the machine that is locking up, it's just Palemoon that stalls out. It only happens on youtube tho, other video sites doesn't have that issue, or other sites in general. But beyond that things are as before. That said it never used to do this say a year ago or so with the old UI. But they changed things and now it's kind of annoying from a user perspective, or at least from mine. But I can still see all teh videos I want etc.
(Score: 2) by Reziac on Monday June 07 2021, @01:27PM (1 child)
It might be the same code, handled differently -- PM wheezing until it goes past, SM (and Borealis) getting stuck on it entirely.
Come to mention it, this started about when my YT adblockers stopped working on the linux boxen too, and I had to switch their Chrome installs from dedicated YT adblockers to uBlock Origin.
And there is no Alkibiades to come back and save us from ourselves.
(Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 09 2021, @05:43AM
I've come to the conclusion it is anti-adblocker code doing it deliberately. If you turn off all the adblocking and hosts files you will get slow piles of shit, but not the lock-ups. Someone at youtube has gone "Well, if you're going to block ads, we'll lock up the browser until they play."
It never times out or triggers an error either, whatever it is doing it is on-purpose.