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posted by janrinok on Thursday June 10, @12:30PM   Printer-friendly
from the this-is-infrastructure dept.

From Spiked:

If life ever returns to normal, one thing no one will miss from the lockdown era is the 'TV goldfish'. For over a year, we've watched the disembodied, pixelated faces of contributors to live TV mouth their words out of sync with their audio, gulping away as if in a private fish tank. This isn't the exception for internet video, it's the norm.

John Day is one of the internet's greybeard founding fathers. For a decade he has been advancing a set of improvements to the current mainstream internet protocols. His proposals – called RINA (Recursive Internetwork Architecture) – revisit and build on Louis Pouzin's founding concept of datagrams (data packets). Simplifying these features allowed the original inter-networking protocols (IP) to get out of the door in the 1980s and 1990s, and allowed for the rapid growth of the internet. But the current system we have – TCP/IP – is holding back new innovation.

See also: Internet outage illustrates lack of resilience at heart of critical services
The Guardian view on the internet outage: we need resilience, not just efficiency

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  • (Score: 5, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 10, @03:33PM (4 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 10, @03:33PM (#1143906)

    Never have I seen an article so poorly researched, so poorly presented, and so far off base that it's very difficult to even begin to point out where they went wrong.

    1) The desync issue has NOTHING to do with the Internet and everything to do with how it was encoded and decoded on the origination and destination.
    2) What is he watching where the desync is so incredibly consistent?
    3) Net Neutrality is one of the foundational pillars of the Internet and allows anyone to communicate effectively. He's attempting to muddy the waters by confusing QoS and the concept that "every packet is equal". The two concepts are 100% compatible with each other. If it's a video packet with QoS - it's equal to every other video packet. What he's advocating for is paid prioritization: "I have money, so my packets are superior to pleb packets".
    4) The author has no understanding of how the Internet works. At all. It's to the point where I'm certain they didn't do any research of fact-finding or knowledge-seeking either. How is it that event the newest and most basic of Twitch streamers can figure this out, but this author couldn't?

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  • (Score: 2) by progo on Thursday June 10, @04:56PM

    by progo (6356) on Thursday June 10, @04:56PM (#1143944) Homepage

    Agreed. The videography might be crappy, but if you start with an assumption of a 100ms to 300ms latency, where's the problem? Zoom transmits video just fine. The vast majority of watchable television does not even have to be mixed and broadcast live.

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 10, @06:46PM (2 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 10, @06:46PM (#1144008)

    And incredibly the editors here, ostensibly knowledgeable about computers above most anything else, saw fit to run it. Really makes you question the quality of all the non-technology stories on here.

    • (Score: 2) by janrinok on Friday June 11, @05:53AM (1 child)

      by janrinok (52) Subscriber Badge on Friday June 11, @05:53AM (#1144185) Journal

      We are trying to encourage a discussion - which this story has achieved. At the time of writing it has had more comments than any other story in the same day. If you don't like a story then skip it. Better still, send us a non-bot submission that you have written, please

      Secondly, I live in a very rural area - this is a common experience for many people in this region although improvements are being regularly seen.

      It's always my fault...
      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday June 11, @09:53PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Friday June 11, @09:53PM (#1144398)

        I know people who are still on dialup because that is all their system can handle in an anyway respectable manner. The inability of people to understand that not everyone has the same experiences as them is just astounding sometimes.