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Journal by fustakrakich

Q: Why do some people condemn critical race theory?
A: Misplaced sexual frustrations.

And speaking of Marx:

Will you run an engine lathe eight unfucking hours a day because the syndicate tells you the people need what the lathe produces? If you will, the people just becomes a new tyrant."

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  • (Score: 0, Flamebait) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 12 2021, @04:06PM (27 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 12 2021, @04:06PM (#1144600)

    The far-right! [babylonbee.com]

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 12 2021, @04:23PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 12 2021, @04:23PM (#1144609)

      Malcolm X had it right before he went soft.

    • (Score: 0, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 12 2021, @04:34PM (25 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 12 2021, @04:34PM (#1144613)

      The interesting thing is MLK would literally be cancelled today. Much of the stuff he says is what the "woke" would consider to be extremely racist. He'd probably be called an Uncle Tom and picketed.

      And people wonder why race relations have gone to complete shit ever since corporations and the political establishment started spreading Critical Race Theory like it was the hottest thing ever since it proved so effective at completely causing the Occupy movement to implode.

      • (Score: 3, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 12 2021, @05:16PM (24 children)

        by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 12 2021, @05:16PM (#1144620)

        Except...MLK is still extensively quoted nowadays among those you so triumphantly deride as "Woke" and he hasn't been cancelled in any way.

        But that doesn't fit with your smug narrative, does it?

        • (Score: 0, Flamebait) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 12 2021, @06:24PM

          by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 12 2021, @06:24PM (#1144650)

          Everything MLK said and stood for was the utter and absolute opposite of everything the Woke are today doing to society. This [stanford.edu] chapter from his autobiography discusses Malcolm X. I highly recommend it. Aside from the urgency and immediacy of his call to arms, Malcolm X had much more in common with the modern Woke. King's comments on Malcolm X were typically insightful, and quite pertinent to today.

          King was essentially about uniting society and working together, and if you'll afford me some kumbaya, loving one another.

          Malcolm X, and the Woke, were (and are) about dividing society, focusing on the flaws of each group - often with hyperbole or disingenuity, and striving for conflict, radicalization, and hate to bring about revolutionary change.

          Interestingly I'd also add even toward the end of Malcolm X's life he also began to realize that his "Woke" strategy was ultimately failing. You don't solve hate with hate.

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 12 2021, @06:39PM (5 children)

          by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 12 2021, @06:39PM (#1144653)

          White Americans have embraced MLK and equality, which is unacceptable now. Luckily, there are some rape allegations that can be weaponized to tarnish his legacy.

          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 12 2021, @07:27PM (4 children)

            by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 12 2021, @07:27PM (#1144664)

            *some* white americans have, many others are still blatantly racist as we see clearly just on this dumb little forum.

            • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 12 2021, @08:07PM (3 children)

              by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 12 2021, @08:07PM (#1144671)

              "The white liberal is the worst enemy to America, and the worst enemy to the Black man." -- Malcolm X 1963

              "I believe that white progressives cause the most daily damage to people of color." -- Robin DiAngelo 2018

              • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 12 2021, @08:47PM (2 children)

                by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 12 2021, @08:47PM (#1144676)

                "When you're famous they let you do it!" --WPOTUS

                • (Score: 0, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 12 2021, @11:23PM (1 child)

                  by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 12 2021, @11:23PM (#1144702)

                  Notice how the biggest threat to the US after Hunter Biden's racist txt messages is global warming? Guess those "white Supremes" attacking Asians are also no longer news? Leftists are mentally ill!

                  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 13 2021, @03:35AM

                    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 13 2021, @03:35AM (#1144749)

                    O.o

        • (Score: 0, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 12 2021, @09:17PM (1 child)

          by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 12 2021, @09:17PM (#1144689)

          MLK judged people by their character. Those CRT ass-clowns have no character.

          • (Score: -1, Offtopic) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 12 2021, @10:39PM

            by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 12 2021, @10:39PM (#1144699)

            I'm getting worried. Runaway has not posted a new journal yet today. Is he alright? I heard there was an Intervention. [soylentnews.org]

            Poor Runaway. Now he is going to have to wear a mask, and carry his vaccination passport! Oh, the Tranny!

        • (Score: 0, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 12 2021, @09:36PM (5 children)

          by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 12 2021, @09:36PM (#1144692)

          The people who whitewash the tombs of dead prophets are first in line to stone a live one.

          • (Score: 1) by khallow on Saturday June 12 2021, @11:44PM (4 children)

            by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Saturday June 12 2021, @11:44PM (#1144707) Journal
            Who are the live prophets of today?
            • (Score: 2, Funny) by fustakrakich on Sunday June 13 2021, @12:13AM

              by fustakrakich (6150) on Sunday June 13 2021, @12:13AM (#1144714) Journal

              Mel Brooks.. and maybe he's getting stoned

              --
              La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
            • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 13 2021, @12:25AM

              by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 13 2021, @12:25AM (#1144717)

              Shaun King and Tariq Nasheed

            • (Score: 0, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 13 2021, @05:42AM (1 child)

              by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 13 2021, @05:42AM (#1144760)

              My point (and the point of that saying) is that the dead are safe to venerate and cherry-pick quotes from because they can't call you out on it.

        • (Score: 0, Troll) by Runaway1956 on Sunday June 13 2021, @03:55AM (8 children)

          by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Sunday June 13 2021, @03:55AM (#1144752) Journal

          Jesus Christ is quoted by athiests. Mao is quoted by people like myself who despise communism. Sun Tzu is quoted by people who can't define 'small unit tactics'.

          The fact is, CRT runs counter to everything that MLK hoped and dreamed of. When CRT people quote MLK, they are doing the equivalent of pissing on his grave. CRT is the obverse of the White Supremacy coin.

          • (Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Sunday June 13 2021, @04:14AM (7 children)

            by fustakrakich (6150) on Sunday June 13 2021, @04:14AM (#1144755) Journal

            You sound troubled. Would you like to talk about it?

            --
            La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
            • (Score: 0, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 13 2021, @05:45AM (6 children)

              by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 13 2021, @05:45AM (#1144761)

              What part(s) of Runaway's post were factually incorrect or logically unsound?

              • (Score: 2, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 13 2021, @08:06AM (2 children)

                by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 13 2021, @08:06AM (#1144766)

                Actually, ALL of them? It might be more productive to as which parts were not.

                Dunning-Kroger clean-up on aisle 3!

                • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 13 2021, @08:34AM (1 child)

                  by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 13 2021, @08:34AM (#1144769)
                  • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 13 2021, @09:24AM

                    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 13 2021, @09:24AM (#1144771)

                    Runaway still hasn't journaled! A huge backload of rightwing bullshit must be building enormous pressures! I understand some medical intervention took place, where they pricked the dick, but that is not nearly enough! We could be facing an explosion that will make the massacre in Bowling Green Footballs look like child's play! Post, Runaway! Relieve the pressure, and expose your self as the impresario you are, before it is too late!

              • (Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Sunday June 13 2021, @11:07PM (2 children)

                by fustakrakich (6150) on Sunday June 13 2021, @11:07PM (#1144895) Journal

                Who cares? I'm just amused by his obsession, and the huge crowd it draws, and even here, how they carry on about it, fascinating stuff

                --
                La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
                • (Score: 1) by khallow on Monday June 14 2021, @02:50PM (1 child)

                  by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Monday June 14 2021, @02:50PM (#1145075) Journal

                  Who cares? I'm just amused by his obsession, and the huge crowd it draws, and even here, how they carry on about it,

                  The "huge crowd" does.

  • (Score: 1, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 12 2021, @06:20PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 12 2021, @06:20PM (#1144649)

    "Hi, my name, if you bothered to find out, is Denis, and I' not old.

    This is what I'm on about! Come see the sexual frustration inherent in the system! Did you see him fustying me? We're living in a dictatorship! "

  • (Score: 5, Insightful) by drussell on Sunday June 13 2021, @01:31AM (14 children)

    by drussell (2678) on Sunday June 13 2021, @01:31AM (#1144727) Journal

    You guys do realize that the only people who are obsessing about this niche, fringe "CRT" thing that has been around for decades are those of you that apparently watch way too much Fox news.

    This is just the latest drummed-up boogeyman nonsense to scare you guys that live in that bubble.

    Turn off the TV. Go outside. There is a whole real world out there.

    Seriously!!

    • (Score: -1, Flamebait) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 13 2021, @01:50AM (1 child)

      by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 13 2021, @01:50AM (#1144729)

      Situation normal, nothing ter see 'ere, move along, touch some grass! /gaslight

      • (Score: 3, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 13 2021, @03:43AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 13 2021, @03:43AM (#1144750)

        How about that caravan of bad dudes? Did you win the war on christmas? Have you considered thinking for yourself?

    • (Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Sunday June 13 2021, @02:21AM

      by fustakrakich (6150) on Sunday June 13 2021, @02:21AM (#1144738) Journal

      Go outside. There is a whole real world out there.

      :-) Yeah, it's raining...

      --
      La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
    • (Score: 2, Redundant) by The Vocal Minority on Sunday June 13 2021, @05:00AM (2 children)

      by The Vocal Minority (2765) on Sunday June 13 2021, @05:00AM (#1144756) Journal

      It's curious how this is being spun in the American partisan political system. Republicans are now against it so it must be good or evil depending upon which team you are part of, or it is just some minor academic thing that nobody needs to take an notice of (take no notice of the man behind the curtain!). I've been aware of this scholarship for a long time - and I'm taking about the critical theories in general not just "CRT" - and I am very concerned how this totalitarian Neo-Marxist thinking has bled into the popular and corporate culture. Have you not had HR training that includes intersectionality, a concept taken directly from Critical Race Theory? Privilege? White fragility (if you disagree with us it is because of your white fragility lol)?

      Of course it masquerades as being about goodness and niceness, I mean how can you be against improving the lot of people who are not doing so well because of historical, and sometimes contemporary, oppression? However there are tenants of this that are at worst naive and at worst blatant power grabs. For example:
      -People can be reduced to their intersection positionality in the way that they experience the world (social skills, traits, intelligence are nothing to do with it - being the products of western science and thinking and therefore should not be applied other than perhaps to the cis white hetro males)
      -Liberal democracy is fundamentally oppressive, being set up by evil white men to keep themselves in power, instead of being the framework through which civil rights and political emancipation is being achieved. Have you not heard the term "Dead white men" to disparage the achievements of previous generations?
      -Hierarchies in modern societies are constructs based always upon power, never competency.

      No I am not American and do not watch "Fox news" or much TV at all. Maybe it is you who has less of a connection to The Real than those you criticize?

      • (Score: 0, Flamebait) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 13 2021, @02:53PM (1 child)

        by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 13 2021, @02:53PM (#1144807)

        It's being spread in a typical fashion for propaganda. Instead of actually pushing for an idea on its merits, instead attack everybody who does *not* support it. The idea is to coerce people into supporting it through two rationales:

        1) The idiot who simply believes what the propaganda says. 'Oh wow, if only racists and really awful people are against CRT - I better support it. Because I'm not a racist or an awful person.'
        2) The smart person of marginal convictions. 'This shit is absurd, but I don't really care one way or the other. Tell them what they want to hear and I'll be left alone. Tell them what I believe and they'll try to destroy my life. Tough call.'

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 13 2021, @09:28AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 13 2021, @09:28AM (#1144772)

      Don't ask about the adrenachrome, Bill Gates microchips, Contrails, or Floridacation, then. These be the common clay of the Old West. Morons.

    • (Score: 0, Flamebait) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 13 2021, @02:47PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 13 2021, @02:47PM (#1144805)

      If you're calling it fringe, you must be unaware of the reach of critical race theory. It is being openly advocated by both the political establishment and the vast majority of major corporations. Many educational institutions, from elementary to university, are now indoctrinating children in this worldview. And if you ever take on a governmental or big corporate role, you will likely be required to take "training" that tries to enforce it upon you.

      And if you think it's only conservatives worried here, you should look at the trends in elections. Aside from the anomaly of 2020, which is unlikely to be repeated, Obama 2012 > Obama 2016 > Clinton 2020 in terms of votes gained. And was in spite of the voting age population, ostensibly full of Democratic demographics, increasing by tens of millions. There are a *lot* of people like myself. I am a liberal, but I am actually a liberal. Categorizing people by race and other identity politics, censorship, trying to destroy people's lives for having different political opinions, and trying to make everybody hate each other for the sake of some stupid revolution (that will, as always, never end how those pushing for it might dream) is not liberal behavior. CRT (among other anti-liberal agendas) is what not only pushed me away from the now neo-"liberal" side of our politics, but turned me overtly anti-DNC.

    • (Score: 0, Flamebait) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 13 2021, @07:02PM (5 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 13 2021, @07:02PM (#1144849)

      latest drummed-up boogeyman nonsense

      No, it's a front for the enslavement of the working classes as conceived by Karl Marx and his cousin Lionel de Rothschild.

      "This world is now, at least for the most part, at the disposal of Marx on the one hand, and of Rothschild on the other. This may seem strange. What can there be in common between socialism and a leading bank? The point is that authoritarian socialism, Marxist communism, demands a strong centralization of the state. And where there is centralization of the state, there must necessarily be a central bank, and where such a bank exists, speculating with the Labor of the people, will be found." -- Mikhail Bakunin, 1869.

      To understand Marxism, you must understand it as a Hegellian religion.

      "communism is that stage of historical development which makes all existing religions superfluous and supersedes them." -- "Draft of a Communist Confession of Faith", Frederick Engels, 1847

      Marx hid this fact behind the pseudo-scientific nonsense of "dialectical materialism". In reality, the concept of arriving at the perfect society through the dialectal process when Marxism itself guarantees an imperfect material reality is a recursive loop. So too with Critical Race Theory, it posits that it is "anti-racist" while creating a material reality of racism by claiming that everybody is racist. As non-theistic belief systems go, these are the absolute worst.

      Marx exploited everyone and to this day exploits those fools who take his writings against exploitation at face value. Marxism and it's inheritors are nothing other than manifestations of his psychopathy. [newsweek.com]

      Words I teach all mixed up into a devilish muddle.
      Thus, anyone may think just what he chooses to think
      With disdain I will throw my gauntlet full in the face of the world,
      And see the collapse of this pygmy giant
      whose fall will not stifle my ardor.
      Then will I wander godlike and victorious through the ruins of the kingdom
      Every word of mine is fire and action,
      I will feel equal to the Creator. -- "Human Pride", Karl Marx

      The horrors of Marxist regimes were not incidental but arguably worse is that socialization based on race was the pet project of a certain Austrian born dictator. CRT in schools is definitely not a "drummed-up bogeyman" [youtube.com] nor is it a partisan issue. Luckily CRT as taught may well violate the constitutional Equal Protection clause and the Civil Rights Act. The institutionalized denigration of black American children as a perpetual victim class is in no way "anti-racist", it is racist and it is evil. Hope for legislative victories!

      • (Score: 2, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 13 2021, @07:35PM (4 children)

        by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 13 2021, @07:35PM (#1144860)

        Strange, the words you quote do not appear in the poem. Could you be a troll? Or a Partisan? Perhaps and anti-semite?

        Human Pride [marxists.org]

        When these stately Halls I scan
                And the giant burden of these Houses,
        And the stormy pilgrimage of Man
        And the frenzied race that never ceases,

        Pulse's throbbing do I sense
                And the giant flame of Soul so proud?
        Shall the Waves then bear you hence
        Into Life, into the Ocean's flood?

        Shall I then revere these forms
                Heavenward soaring, proud, inviolate?
        Should I yield before the Life that storms
        Towards the Indeterminate?

        No! You pigmy-giants so wretched,
        And you ice-cold stone Monstrosity,
        See how in these eyes averted
        Burns the Soul's impetuosity.

        Swift eye scans the circles round,
        Hastens through them all exploringly,
        Yearning, as on fire, resounds,
        Mocking through the vast Halls and away.

        When you all go down and sink,
        Fragment-world shall lie around,
        Even though cold Splendour blink,
                Even though grim Ruin stand its ground.

        There is drawn no boundary,
                No hard, wretched earth-clod bars our way,
        And we sail across the sea,
                And we wander countries far away.

        Nothing bids to stay our going,
        Nothing locks our hopes inside;
        Swift away go fancies fleeing,
                And the bosom's joy and pain abide.

        All those monstrous shapes so vast
        Tower aloft in fearfulness,
        Feeling not love's fiery blast
                That creates them out of nothingness.

        No giant column soars to Heaven
        In a single block, victorious;
        One stone on the other meanly woven
        Emulates the timid snail laborious.

        But the Soul embraces all,
                Is a lofty giant flame that glows,
        Even in its very Fall
                Dragging Suns in its destructive throes.

        And out of itself it swells
                Up to Heaven's realms on high;
        Gods within its depths it lulls,
                Thunderous lightning flashes in its eye.

        And it wavers not a whit
                Where the very God-Thought fares,
        On its breast will cherish it;
                  Soul's own greatness is its lofty Prayer.

        Soul its greatness must devour,
        In its greatness must go down;
        Then volcanoes seethe and roar,
                And lamenting Demons gather round.

        Soul, succumbing haughtily,
                  Raises up a throne to giant derision;
        Downfall turns to Victory,
                  Hero's prize is proud renunciation.

        But when two are bound together,
        When two souls together flow,
        Each one softly tells the other
                  No more need alone through space to go.

        Then all Worlds hear melodies
                  Like the Aeolian harp full sighing,
        In eternal Beauty's rays
                  Wish and Soul's desire together flowing.

        Jenny! Do I dare avow
                  That in love we have exchanged our Souls,
        That as one they throb and glow,
                  And that through their waves one current rolls?

        Then the gauntlet do I fling
                  Scornful in the World's wide open face.
        Down the giant She-Dwarf, whimpering,
        Plunges, cannot crush my happiness.

        Like unto a God I dare
                Through that ruined realm in triumph roam.
        Every word is Deed and Fire,
                And my bosom like the Maker's own.

        • (Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 13 2021, @08:52PM

          by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 13 2021, @08:52PM (#1144872)

          What?!? A partisan troll making shit up? Say it ain't so!

        • (Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 13 2021, @11:05PM (2 children)

          by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 13 2021, @11:05PM (#1144894)

          Strange, the words you quote do not appear in the poem.

          No, they don't appear in the translation you linked. See Marx and Satan p8 & p18. [wikipedia.org] The first two lines are from "On Hegel" - p13.

          With disdain I will throw my gauntlet
          Full in the face of the world,
          And see the collapse of this pygmy giant
          Whose fall will not stifle my ardour.
          Then will I wander godlike and victorious
          Through the ruins of the world
          And, giving my words an active force,
          I will feel equal to the Creator.

          Perhaps and anti-semite?

          Yes he was. [stoppingsocialism.com]

          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday June 15 2021, @12:23AM (1 child)

            by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday June 15 2021, @12:23AM (#1145313)

            ??? Karl Marx was a secular Jew. Can't have it both ways, Nazi!

            • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday June 15 2021, @05:11PM

              by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday June 15 2021, @05:11PM (#1145591)

              When somebody tells you who they are...

              What is the worldly religion of the Jew? Huckstering. What is his worldly God? Money.

              ...you should believe them. [recentr.com] Marx was anti-Semitic because psychopaths are anti-human.

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