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posted by LaminatorX on Sunday October 12 2014, @02:07PM   Printer-friendly
from the whose-side-are-you-on? dept.

Brianna Wu, head of the independent gaming studio Giant Spacekat, was the target of a series of tweets containing death threats on Friday; one published her home address (since redacted). The poster's Twitter account has been disabled.

Wu responded on Friday night with the tweet:

Brianna Wu @Spacekatgal

The police just came by. Husband and I are going somewhere safe.

Remember, #gamergate isn't about attacking women.

GamerGate supporters denounced the threats and "doxxing" against Wu and disavowed the poster. However, several suspected that the tweets were a false flag created by anti-GamerGate forces:

Sun Knight @SunKnightO

@Sen_Armstrong @Spacekatgal @chatterwhiteman It's clearly either a troll or false flag shame that people actually think its legit.

 
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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday October 12 2014, @03:27PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday October 12 2014, @03:27PM (#105069)

    How was the 1st debunked? Kotaku already ran a piece acknowledging the relationship.
    http://kotaku.com/in-recent-days-ive-been-asked-several-times-about-a-pos-1624707346 [kotaku.com]

    Which makes you a liar, and why should we listen to a liar?
    You're likely just full of BS.

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday October 12 2014, @04:21PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday October 12 2014, @04:21PM (#105082)

    They very article you linked to is what first informed me that it was debunked. The article says:

    He has not written about her since. Nathan never reviewed Zoe Quinn's game Depression Quest, let alone gave it a favorable review.
    ...
    Given the information available to us both from Nathan and all sources presented online, I have no reason to believe any further action need be taken.

    The quality of your response seems to be the highest level of what passes as intellectual rigor among the gamergate crowd. So I find myself faced with choosing between you guys either being drooling morons or unrepentant misogynists. Or a combination of both.

    As I said previously, if there is more to your crusade over "journalistic ethics" than those two non-issues, let us hear it.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday October 12 2014, @04:42PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Sunday October 12 2014, @04:42PM (#105087)

      So which part is debunked? Please explain it to us poor souls.
      Are you saying she slept with them and they didn't give her favors in return?
      Or that she slept with them for unrelated reasons?

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday October 12 2014, @04:59PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Sunday October 12 2014, @04:59PM (#105092)

        What part of "never reviewed" do you fail to understand?

        The only thing relevant to "journalistic ethics" is whether or not she was given special treatment for whatever reason.

        > Or that she slept with them for unrelated reasons?

        Your thinking that such a question has any sort of relevancy confirms the accusations that gamergate is about misogyny.

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday October 12 2014, @05:06PM

          by Anonymous Coward on Sunday October 12 2014, @05:06PM (#105098)

          Well if you wrote clearly the first time no one would misunderstand.

          I never claimed I was in gamergate, or a gamer at all.
          But thanks for playing the "make up bullshit to support my point of view" game.

          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday October 12 2014, @05:14PM

            by Anonymous Coward on Sunday October 12 2014, @05:14PM (#105101)

            > Well if you wrote clearly the first time no one would misunderstand.

            How could you possibly think her sex life was at all relevant?
            Really, what part of "ethics" do you think might possibly apply?

            > I never claimed I was in gamergate, or a gamer at all.

            Two can play that game. I never claimed you were in gamergate.

            • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday October 12 2014, @05:40PM

              by Anonymous Coward on Sunday October 12 2014, @05:40PM (#105115)

              Being in gaming development and having any sort of personal relationship with games journalists is clearly an ethics violation. Why put ethics in quotes. It is not a scary word. It is not made up. It is the study of what is right and what is wrong. Conflicts of interest are thought of as wrong, therefore if someone's sex life and professional life overlap, then it is unethical.

              • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday October 12 2014, @05:55PM

                by Anonymous Coward on Sunday October 12 2014, @05:55PM (#105129)

                > Being in gaming development and having any sort of personal relationship with games journalists is clearly an ethics violation.

                How so? Seriously. I expect you to claim the extremist position that any relationship is defacto evidence of an "ethics" violation. Which is just bullshit. Ethics violations actually require a violation. Unless the reporter actually gives favorable coverage to the person they are involved with there is no "ethics" violation.

                > Why put ethics in quotes.

                I put it in quotes to make it evident that I think the definition people like you are using is absurd.

              • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday October 12 2014, @05:58PM

                by Anonymous Coward on Sunday October 12 2014, @05:58PM (#105135)

                Being in gaming development and having any sort of personal relationship with games journalists is clearly an ethics violation.

                Wrong. People can have relationships with whomever they want. Reviewing your partner's or ex-partner's work is an ethics violation, but that didn't happen here, so its irrelevant, nothing more than a red herring.

              • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday October 12 2014, @06:11PM

                by Anonymous Coward on Sunday October 12 2014, @06:11PM (#105151)

                How DARE you bring common sense and responsibility into this discussion!

                • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday October 12 2014, @06:15PM

                  by Anonymous Coward on Sunday October 12 2014, @06:15PM (#105157)

                  Responding to yourself is stupid and easy to spot. You can sock puppet all you want, but its pretty obvious.

                  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday October 12 2014, @06:19PM

                    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday October 12 2014, @06:19PM (#105162)

                    I don't think it is a sockpuppet. I think there really is more than one person who thinks that logic is impeccable.
                    There are a whole bunch of them in gamergate. It's kind of a requirement to join.

                    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday October 12 2014, @06:27PM

                      by Anonymous Coward on Sunday October 12 2014, @06:27PM (#105167)

                      Nah, I'm pretty sure its all that one guy who thinks every AC poster is Tork. Even this post is by him, and yours definitely is.

              • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday October 12 2014, @08:41PM

                by Anonymous Coward on Sunday October 12 2014, @08:41PM (#105253)

                Being in gaming development and having any sort of personal relationship with games journalists is clearly an ethics violation.

                That's just ridiculous. By that token, it seems like no two people in the same professional field should be allowed to communicate outside of job. Ethics, or at least publishing ethics, isn't about building impersonal walls between humans, it's about managing your relationships to avoid conflicts of interest.

                Sleeping with the person who recommends your product, or who recommends you for promotion: conflict of interest. Recusing yourself from reviewing your girlfriend's product: ethical. Quitting your job because you're attracted to someone who works in the field: Hollywood melodrama.

            • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday October 12 2014, @05:50PM

              by Anonymous Coward on Sunday October 12 2014, @05:50PM (#105125)

              Maybe we're asking the wrong question.

              How about, why did 5 game journalists sleep with her?

              That way all of the blame is on the corrupt male game journalists.

              Better?

              • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday October 12 2014, @06:01PM

                by Anonymous Coward on Sunday October 12 2014, @06:01PM (#105138)

                > Maybe we're asking the wrong question.

                You are indeed.

                > How about, why did 5 game journalists sleep with her?

                Nope. Still the wrong question. But points for realizing that what's good for the goose is good for the gander.

                > That way all of the blame is on the corrupt male game journalists.

                Except there was no corruption.
                Any hypothetical motivation is irrelevant when there is no crime.
                I keep waiting to see evidence of a crime and there has been none.

                • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday October 12 2014, @06:08PM

                  by Anonymous Coward on Sunday October 12 2014, @06:08PM (#105145)

                  If it looks like a duck...
                  Why did she choose to cheat/sleep with only those in the game Journal Industry?
                  I never said it was a crime, (that I know of anyways), I only wanted to know her motivation.

                  If they're "too sexy it hurts", then I'm not bothered by it.

                  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday October 12 2014, @06:11PM

                    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday October 12 2014, @06:11PM (#105149)

                    > I only wanted to know her motivation.

                    None of your fucking business.
                    Really. Why do you think you are entitled to know why someone decides to sleep with anyone?

                    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday October 12 2014, @06:17PM

                      by Anonymous Coward on Sunday October 12 2014, @06:17PM (#105159)

                      Because it shines a light on a larger issue that should be addressed. Women in the gaming industry shouldn't have to sleep with game Journalists to promote their work.
                      Why did you think I cared?? Asshole.

                      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday October 12 2014, @06:25PM

                        by Anonymous Coward on Sunday October 12 2014, @06:25PM (#105165)

                        > Women in the gaming industry shouldn't have to sleep with game Journalists to promote their work.

                        Who says they have to?

                        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday October 12 2014, @09:34PM

                          by Anonymous Coward on Sunday October 12 2014, @09:34PM (#105278)

                          Um, we're trying to find out if that is what happened.
                          Except every time we ask a question we get a shitstorm of OMG sexists assholes!!!! as a response.
                          Which only makes us believe more in the likelihood of a coverup.
                          The slander articles and their "coordinated" timing seem suspicious as well.

                      • (Score: 2) by cafebabe on Monday October 13 2014, @06:05AM

                        by cafebabe (894) on Monday October 13 2014, @06:05AM (#105442) Journal

                        Women in the gaming industry shouldn't have to sleep with game Journalists to promote their work.

                        No-one should have to sleep with journalists to obtain favorable reviews. However, five journalists (who may or may not enjoyed sexual relations with one woman) gave dis-proportionately good reviews for a "game" which consists of stateless HTML wrapped with a full-screen web browser.

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                        1702845791×2
                        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday October 13 2014, @06:16AM

                          by Anonymous Coward on Monday October 13 2014, @06:16AM (#105444)

                          "Good reviews exist for a game I personally thought was shit!" is not proof of anything, except that the reviewers apparently like visual novels. Visual novels are pretty big in Japan, and have a niche market here in the US; so what? Where are these five reviews along with the proof that the game's creator fucked them within a week - or hell, a month - of the review? Without that, all you have is proof that your tinfoil hat is on too tight.

                          • (Score: 3, Informative) by cafebabe on Monday October 13 2014, @07:20AM

                            by cafebabe (894) on Monday October 13 2014, @07:20AM (#105450) Journal

                            "Good reviews exist for a game I personally thought was shit!" is not proof of anything, except that the reviewers apparently like visual novels. Visual novels are pretty big in Japan, and have a niche market here in the US; so what?

                            It would be an improvement if it was a visual novel.

                            Where are these five reviews along with the proof that the game's creator fucked them within a week - or hell, a month - of the review?

                            I've done game testing professionally and I've seen the effort that goes into games that flop. I've also seen how developers react when a reviewer doesn't understand a feature in a game. And I would hope that it is generally understood that game reviews are critical in some area even when a game pushes boundaries in many areas. However, if someone publishes a few webpages, they can expect most influential Steam reviews to contain the following:-

                            This is a free text based experience that just has you clicking hyperlinks as you would a webpage. I can't really call it a game since I don't think the point is to entertain you. It was originally a website and this is just the web-kit version of the site put on Steam.

                            Point blank: I think this game fails at what it set out to do. It doesn't make the user understand depression at all. In fact, it's just the story of some overpriviledged guy too stuck in his head. Nothing awful actually happens to the character. The player isn't made to sympathize with him in any way.

                            First of all, I hold no grudge against any group, this is merely how I truely think of this program.

                            Depression Quest is a program that focuses on what appears to be chronic depression and more specifically from a female mindset. Keeping in mind that this is dubbed "an interactive fiction game" with almost no gameplay, I would like to think of this program as more of a webpage story. The writing in this program is at a level of articulation and description that I would expect from a middle school student. Personally, I was disapointed in the level of writing most of all, with this program being a text-based program.

                            As for the gameplay, it's completely told through text with decisions at the bottom, like Choose Your Own Adventure books. The writer was of average quality. It wasn't horrible, but it wasn't exactly Virginia Wolfe either. The choices frustrated me, however, by having you frequently unable to select more positive choices over more negative ones. I get that this was to simulate the 'it will never get better' feelings of depression, but there is a difference between feeling it will never improve and actively being unable to make a positive choice in your life, even ones like seeing a therapist. When I was depressed, they couldn't make me NOT see one.

                            This is not a game. It is a digital "choose your own adventure" book, except none of the choices you make actually effect the ending.

                            You may imply that I am a conspiracist but this is not a game which obtained distribution through intrinsic merit.

                            --
                            1702845791×2
                    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday October 13 2014, @04:52PM

                      by Anonymous Coward on Monday October 13 2014, @04:52PM (#105629)

                      The 1st Amendment allows me to ask whatever I like. You can also run your mouth protecting sluts as much as you like too.

                      Why is this slut shaming anyway? Is she ashamed of sleeping with 5 game journalists?

                      I actually wish more women slept around, because you really need to get laid!

                    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday October 13 2014, @04:58PM

                      by Anonymous Coward on Monday October 13 2014, @04:58PM (#105632)

                      Now imagine your wife slept with 5 mob bosses.

                      It's none of your business, she can sleep with whomever she likes.

                      So I won't advice you to flee the country, just stay put like the good little doggie you are.

              • (Score: 2) by velex on Sunday October 12 2014, @06:02PM

                by velex (2068) on Sunday October 12 2014, @06:02PM (#105139) Journal

                No, not better. That position doesn't fucking fix anything.

                I don't give a shit who she's slept with. I've slept with a lot of guys! It's easy to do! What fucking difference does it make?

                The problem here is that an entire demographic is being blamed for the actions of a few individuals. We know who they are! Cut off their balls and inject them with estrogen! Be done with it.

                Except we won't. We'll go after every 3rd party who is assigned the male gender on a legal document who likes to play games. How the hell does that fix anything?

                • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday October 12 2014, @06:13PM

                  by Anonymous Coward on Sunday October 12 2014, @06:13PM (#105155)

                  You slut! Go die in a hole as filthy as you are! Oh wait, you're a guy, aren't you? High Five bro! ^5

                  • (Score: 2) by velex on Sunday October 12 2014, @08:09PM

                    by velex (2068) on Sunday October 12 2014, @08:09PM (#105236) Journal

                    Thank you for identifying a big issue of sexism.

                    Thank you also for identifying a big issue of cissexism that you white knights can't seem to get past.

              • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday October 12 2014, @06:07PM

                by Anonymous Coward on Sunday October 12 2014, @06:07PM (#105143)

                How about, why did 5 game journalists sleep with her?

                Who cares? Its got nothing to do with this, merely a red herring and strawman used as an excuse to justify slut shaming, an inherently misogynistic action.

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday October 12 2014, @05:15PM

          by Anonymous Coward on Sunday October 12 2014, @05:15PM (#105102)

          Oh for fucks sake, not this garbage again. Nathan Grayson mentioned her game in an article in Rock Paper Shotgun [archive.today] back in January, then he covered Zoe's "Game Jam" [kotaku.com] at the end of March after she was responsible for tanking the same project run by The Fine Young Capitalist (TFYC) to get women in to gaming.

          This has been stated over and over and over and every time someone insisting it doesn't exist pops up, then when it's pointed out they come back with, "well that's not a review". Seriously just fuck off already.

          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday October 12 2014, @05:31PM

            by Anonymous Coward on Sunday October 12 2014, @05:31PM (#105108)

            This has been stated over and over and over and every time someone insisting it doesn't exist pops up, then when it's pointed out they come back with, "well that's not a review". Seriously just fuck off already.

            So, what I am getting from you is that you have a problem with reality. Not only is it "not a review" it isn't particularly favorable towards her or any of her work. If you think it is, perhaps you could quote the lines that actually endorse her rather than just describe how someone else was shitty towards her.

            after she was responsible for tanking the same project run by The Fine Young Capitalist (TFYC) to get women in to gaming.

            True or not, I don't see how that's relevant to the charge of journalistic corruption versus a complaint about her as an individual.

            • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday October 12 2014, @05:59PM

              by Anonymous Coward on Sunday October 12 2014, @05:59PM (#105136)

              It shows a pattern of shitty/unethical behavior.

              • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday October 12 2014, @06:13PM

                by Anonymous Coward on Sunday October 12 2014, @06:13PM (#105153)

                > It shows a pattern of shitty/unethical behavior.

                Is she a journalist? No. Case fucking closed.

                • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday October 12 2014, @09:37PM

                  by Anonymous Coward on Sunday October 12 2014, @09:37PM (#105281)

                  So because she's not a journalist she's incapable of unethical behavior?
                  Or do non-journalists have some type of diplomatic immunity to it?

                  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday October 12 2014, @10:22PM

                    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday October 12 2014, @10:22PM (#105304)

                    So because she's not a journalist she's incapable of unethical behavior?

                    What part of "journalistic ethics" do you fail to understand?

                    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday October 12 2014, @10:38PM

                      by Anonymous Coward on Sunday October 12 2014, @10:38PM (#105317)

                      The "ethics" part. It does mean "everything done by somebody I like", making "ethical violation" mean "everything done by somebody I don't like", right?

                    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday October 13 2014, @12:09AM

                      by Anonymous Coward on Monday October 13 2014, @12:09AM (#105346)

                      So journalistic ethics are the only kind of ethics?
                      And unethical behavior by journalists can only involve journalists?
                      Because if a non-journalist is evolved everyone is a sexist pig?

                      Am I doing it right?

              • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday October 12 2014, @06:18PM

                by Anonymous Coward on Sunday October 12 2014, @06:18PM (#105161)

                Only if you look at it with the intent to use it as proof of that, having already made your mind up and simply looking for anything to justify your pre-made conclusion.

                In reality it shows nothing of the sort.

        • (Score: 2) by velex on Sunday October 12 2014, @05:57PM

          by velex (2068) on Sunday October 12 2014, @05:57PM (#105134) Journal

          Of course gamer-gate is about misogyny.

          Why aren't we holding the individuals^H^H^H^H^Hassholes involved accountable?

          I am sick of being dragged into this shit because of my assigned gender. I am sick of being held accountable for sexual harassment and date rape.

          Get me my fucking Obamacare sex change or drop the issue.

          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday October 12 2014, @06:02PM

            by Anonymous Coward on Sunday October 12 2014, @06:02PM (#105140)

            SJW logic...
            You sound white, you must be a KKK member then.
            Don't like being called a member of the KKK?

            Fine you're a leader of the KKK and you rape children?
            Don't like that? Well I guess it must be true then.

            • (Score: 2) by velex on Sunday October 12 2014, @06:11PM

              by velex (2068) on Sunday October 12 2014, @06:11PM (#105150) Journal

              Somebody mod parent insightful. I'd use one of my mod points, but I opened my fat mouth already.

          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday October 12 2014, @06:08PM

            by Anonymous Coward on Sunday October 12 2014, @06:08PM (#105147)

            > I am sick of being dragged into this shit because of my assigned gender.

            No one but you is dragging you into anything.

            Seriously.

            You can go about your life doing your own thing and not only will no one say anything to you about gamerassholes, no one will even know you are a male gamer.

            The only time you get accused of being a gamerasshole is when you get all thin-skinned about somebody criticizing someone other than yourself and take it personally. Or you know, you decide that hey those gamerassholes have a point when they aren't yelling whore at people and think you should stick up for them. But that's you dragging yourself and not any sort of assignment.

            • (Score: 2) by velex on Sunday October 12 2014, @06:51PM

              by velex (2068) on Sunday October 12 2014, @06:51PM (#105182) Journal

              Nope, sorry, you lose.

              I have been held accountable to my face by various sexist feminist bitches for the actions of others.

              Yes, me personally.

              • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday October 12 2014, @06:53PM

                by Anonymous Coward on Sunday October 12 2014, @06:53PM (#105184)

                > I have been held accountable to my face by various sexist feminist bitches for the actions of others.

                Held accountable for being a gamerasshole? No you weren't. You are lying.

                • (Score: 2) by velex on Sunday October 12 2014, @07:19PM

                  by velex (2068) on Sunday October 12 2014, @07:19PM (#105195) Journal

                  You've never been a target of sexism?

                  You think it's unpossible that an assigned male might be a target of sexism?

                  You think it's unpossible that women can be sexists?

                  You think ti's unpossible that an assigned male might have been a target of sexism on multiple occasions?

                  What did all that sexism accomplish? Clearly nothing, because here we have gamer-gate.

                  Feh, hell, I wonder if my home-ec teacher still hates me for being better at baking and sewing than the cisgendered girls in her class. That had to have been the most unwilling A I've ever received.

                  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday October 12 2014, @07:24PM

                    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday October 12 2014, @07:24PM (#105201)

                    > You think it's unpossible that an assigned male might be a target of sexism?

                    As I noted earlier, all your rage here has nothing to do with gamergate and everything to do with being an "assigned male."

                    I'm think your bitterness about being assigned a gender has made you see gamergate as being assigned to you personally.

                    • (Score: 2) by velex on Sunday October 12 2014, @07:56PM

                      by velex (2068) on Sunday October 12 2014, @07:56PM (#105226) Journal

                      Again, you don't seem to understand that some brain-damaged sexist policy will likely come about because of this.

                      I've said before, we know who the individual is. Cut off his balls and inject him with estrogen.

                      Hell, you're right. My complaint is being legally male. Cut off my balls and inject me with estrogen! My liver might appreciate it.

                      Yet, my complaint at being legally male is valid. I am not a part of gamer-gate or whatever, but I am concerned that some brain-damaged sexist policy will be enacted.

                      I suppose the sentiments that I should shut up until such a policy does come through are valid. However, I'd rather protest loudly here than need to lawyer up later.

                      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday October 12 2014, @07:59PM

                        by Anonymous Coward on Sunday October 12 2014, @07:59PM (#105227)

                        > Again, you don't seem to understand that some brain-damaged sexist policy will likely come about because of this.

                        Ok, how about you explain what kind of brain-damaged sexist policy will likely come about because of this.
                        Make it good because what I expect to hear from you is something from a fever dream.

                        • (Score: 2) by velex on Sunday October 12 2014, @08:21PM

                          by velex (2068) on Sunday October 12 2014, @08:21PM (#105244) Journal

                          Ok, you made me laugh.

                          What about propositions to limit one's avatar to one's legal gender?

                          Haha, I went to look for that referece, probably from 2003 or so, I think it was a Microsoft policy, but instead I found an actual implementation [blogs.com].

                          Of course, given the specifics, I have nothing to bitch about. I don't play that game and even if I did, I'd likely "pass" and get permission for a female avatar whether I was trying to or not. I worry about some friends who do not get gendered female as often as I do.

                          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday October 12 2014, @08:43PM

                            by Anonymous Coward on Sunday October 12 2014, @08:43PM (#105255)

                            > What about propositions to limit one's avatar to one's legal gender?

                            That's funny, because I would expect the result to go the other way. That games which didn't let people play as other genders would be sanctioned. The entire point of the feminists is that gamergater dudebros don't know what its like to be a woman online.

                            • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday October 12 2014, @08:46PM

                              by Anonymous Coward on Sunday October 12 2014, @08:46PM (#105257)

                              >gamergater dudebros

                              #NotYourSlur

                            • (Score: 2) by velex on Sunday October 12 2014, @10:03PM

                              by velex (2068) on Sunday October 12 2014, @10:03PM (#105292) Journal

                              Feminists are peculiar in this way.

                              They want to cut your balls off right up until they find out that you would like that. They want to put you in a dress right up until they find out you have several dresses you like to wear, then suddenly it's a matter of being a rapist because you get gendered female too often for their tastes.

                              If I'm remembering the brain-damage correctly, it was the same matter as it is with feminist transphobia. The feminists are horrified at the possibility that anybody who was assigned the male gender at birth might gain female privilege (or heaven help us sneak into the Michigan Womyn's Music Festival).

                              Feminism is all about chauvenism and cis-woman privilege. It's complete sexism.

                              Also, the feminists are afraid that somebody like me might be gendered by somebody else as female and learn what it's really like to be a woman. It makes it very difficult to believe their victim power bullshit after being extended female privilege both online and offline. They hate that there are people like me who know exactly what it's like to be a woman. Maybe they should just fucking drop their "bathroom rape" shit and let me be a woman full time. Then I wouldn't post angry shit when I'm looking forward to being forced to present as a male yet again and be accountable for the actions of these gamer-gate shitheads.

                              • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday October 12 2014, @10:13PM

                                by Anonymous Coward on Sunday October 12 2014, @10:13PM (#105297)

                                Your definition of feminism is wrong.
                                I don't think you are able to hear any other definition.
                                It is kind of sad.

                                • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday October 12 2014, @10:28PM

                                  by Anonymous Coward on Sunday October 12 2014, @10:28PM (#105311)

                                  That's why social justice warrior is a good term to have. It allows you to separate proactive feminists from whiny loser feminists.

                                  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday October 12 2014, @10:35PM

                                    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday October 12 2014, @10:35PM (#105315)

                                    > That's why social justice warrior is a good term to have. It allows you to separate proactive feminists from whiny loser feminists.

                                    That's odd. I use it to identify whiny loser misogynists and racists.

                                    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday October 12 2014, @10:38PM

                                      by Anonymous Coward on Sunday October 12 2014, @10:38PM (#105316)

                                      > That's odd. I use it to identify whiny loser misogynists and racists.

                                      That's ok. Everybody makes mistakes [reddit.com].

                                • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday October 12 2014, @10:30PM

                                  by Anonymous Coward on Sunday October 12 2014, @10:30PM (#105312)

                                  She's describing the de facto definition of feminism. It's the only definition that actually matters.

                                  Any dictionary/academic/de jure definition of feminism is irrelevant.

                                  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday October 12 2014, @10:32PM

                                    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday October 12 2014, @10:32PM (#105313)

                                    > She's describing the de facto definition of feminism.

                                    Nope. She's describing something she personally experienced once or twice and which has been reinforced by the gleeful howls of anti-progressives.

                              • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday October 12 2014, @10:28PM

                                by Anonymous Coward on Sunday October 12 2014, @10:28PM (#105310)

                                This woman knows what she's talking about! Mod her up!

    • (Score: 2) by velex on Sunday October 12 2014, @05:39PM

      by velex (2068) on Sunday October 12 2014, @05:39PM (#105114) Journal

      Ok, AC, this is past the point of intellectual rigour.

      This is clearly about holding an entire demographic accountable for the actions of one dickwad.

      I'll say it again. Cut off his balls and inject him with estrogen. That's what this dickface deserves. Be done with it.

      Don't hold me accountable. I'm an individual. Don't tread on me.

      Why aren't we holding this individual accountable and instead making it a matter of shitting on an entire demographic?

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday October 12 2014, @06:12PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Sunday October 12 2014, @06:12PM (#105152)

        If it's just one person then the entire SJW + Feminist "we hate all gamer males" looses steam!

        Can't you see how important it is for the cause that every male everywhere is all GUILTY GUILTY GUILTY!!!

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday October 13 2014, @12:38AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Monday October 13 2014, @12:38AM (#105357)

        Ok, AC, this is past the point of intellectual rigour.

        This is clearly about holding an entire demographic accountable for the actions of one dickwad.

        I'll say it again. Cut off his balls and inject him with estrogen. That's what this dickface deserves. Be done with it.

        I must say I find it rather telling, in a sad sort of a way, that you apparently see "being turned into a women" essentially as punishment. I gather that you are in the process of transitioning to being a woman yourself. I realize that psychoanalyzing someone over the internet is fraught with peril but, wow!, you are throwing off some really weird vibes. I hope you are getting therapy for this, and I mean that sincerely.

        Don't hold me accountable. I'm an individual. Don't tread on me.

        Why aren't we holding this individual accountable and instead making it a matter of shitting on an entire demographic?

        To my eye, it would appear that the only ones in this "demographic" who are being "shit on" are those who would excuse, deny, or rationalize death threats and doxxing. You go ahead and play your video games if you like. No one is going to "tread" on you.

    • (Score: 1) by khallow on Sunday October 12 2014, @09:16PM

      by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Sunday October 12 2014, @09:16PM (#105270) Journal
      Is your imagination really that stilted that you can't figure out how a gaming journalist could get good reviews for a game developer without having to write the articles directly? For example, the game developer could have slept with the journalist in order to seal the deal and the journalist then passes a monetary bribe on from the game developer to the actual reviewer of the game. Or he might have gotten her game put in the review queue in the first place. In other words, just because he didn't actually write an article doesn't mean that he wasn't instrumental in getting a positive review written up.

      Second, maybe he did plan to write said review and just by happenstance, the review went to some other journalist. Or maybe he never intended to honor any deal.

      Or maybe the relationship had nothing to do with their day jobs. But what we do know there was a conflict of interest. And that Kotaku has said nothing in the above article about what it plans to do, if anything, about future conflicts of interest.
      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday October 12 2014, @09:23PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Sunday October 12 2014, @09:23PM (#105275)

        For example, the game developer could have slept with the journalist in order to seal the deal and the journalist then passes a monetary bribe on from the game developer to the actual reviewer of the game. Or he might have gotten her game put in the review queue in the first place. In other words, just because he didn't actually write an article doesn't mean that he wasn't instrumental in getting a positive review written up.

        Anything's possible. But if you have to make up a movie-plot to worry about, that should be a clue that you are on the lunatic fringe.

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday October 12 2014, @09:47PM

          by Anonymous Coward on Sunday October 12 2014, @09:47PM (#105285)

          What we do know isn't the whole picture, but what we've seen so far doesn't look good.
          I seriously wish she was a man and had used money instead of sex. All of this would be much easier to sort out.

          Hell I'd settle for just the gender change in the story, it would at least be funny.

          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday October 12 2014, @10:10PM

            by Anonymous Coward on Sunday October 12 2014, @10:10PM (#105294)

            > What we do know isn't the whole picture,

            How do we "know" that? Sounds like wishful thinking.

            > but what we've seen so far doesn't look good.

            Yeah, it looks like a bunch of butthurt idiots making up shit.

            • (Score: 1) by khallow on Sunday October 12 2014, @10:12PM

              by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Sunday October 12 2014, @10:12PM (#105296) Journal

              Yeah, it looks like a bunch of butthurt idiots making up shit.

              Why should I care what it looks like to you? The conflict of interest is there no matter what it looks like to you.

              • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday October 12 2014, @10:16PM

                by Anonymous Coward on Sunday October 12 2014, @10:16PM (#105299)

                > Why should I care what it looks like to you? The conflict of interest is there no matter what it looks like to you.

                Why should I care what it looks like to you? The evidence of conflict of interest is not there no matter what it looks like to you.

              • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday October 12 2014, @10:34PM

                by Anonymous Coward on Sunday October 12 2014, @10:34PM (#105314)

                The conflict of interest is there no matter what it looks like to you.

                Citation needed.

                "A good review exists!" is not proof of anything. A list of other games greenlighted at the same time is not proof of anything. What else is there being touted as "proof of a conflict of interest"?

                If "she could've fucked this guy who then bribed other people with money!"-type conspiracy theories are all you've got, then you're only proving that you're working backwards from a conclusion and desperately searching for evidence to support it.

                • (Score: 1) by khallow on Monday October 13 2014, @12:21AM

                  by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Monday October 13 2014, @12:21AM (#105353) Journal
                  As already was mentioned, a gaming journalist had sex with a game developer. That relationship may not necessarily be inappropriate, but it's a obvious means by which sex can be exchanged for good press - even if the journalist doesn't write the reviews directly. Hence, the conflict of interest exists.
                  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday October 13 2014, @04:14AM

                    by Anonymous Coward on Monday October 13 2014, @04:14AM (#105424)

                    a gaming journalist had sex with a game developer, ... obvious[ly as a] means [to exchange] sex for good press

                    Pardon the parsing, but that is basically what you're saying.

                    So she had sex with a journalist, so what? Its nobody's business who she has sex with. "A relationship exists" is not an ethics violation. [wikipedia.org] And how is it "obvious" that the only purpose behind the relationship was to get good press? How can you know anybody's motivations for anything? Are you a mind reader? No? Then you can't know and can only guess.

                    There are no facts to support your claims. Have some integrity for once in your life and stop trying to destroy innocent people's lives for no reason.

                    • (Score: 1) by khallow on Monday October 13 2014, @09:32AM

                      by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Monday October 13 2014, @09:32AM (#105469) Journal

                      Its nobody's business who she has sex with.

                      Because she had sex with a journalist who covers her industry, this matter becomes the business of the journalist's employer and any customers of the developer's game who are concerned that reviews of the game may be compromised by the above conflict of interest. When the relationship affects others in ways that can be very harmful, then it becomes their business.

                • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday October 13 2014, @12:54AM

                  by Anonymous Coward on Monday October 13 2014, @12:54AM (#105363)

                  If "she could've fucked this guy who then bribed other people with money!"-type conspiracy theories are all you've got, then you're only proving that you're working backwards from a conclusion and desperately searching for evidence to support it.

                  Well, he may be searching for evidence to back up his wild-eyed conspiracy theory but he is still failing quite miserably at actually finding any.

                • (Score: 1) by khallow on Monday October 13 2014, @09:35AM

                  by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Monday October 13 2014, @09:35AM (#105470) Journal
                  I gave an obvious scenario, sex for good reviews of any games she developed. That's all the citation you need.
        • (Score: 1) by khallow on Sunday October 12 2014, @10:11PM

          by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Sunday October 12 2014, @10:11PM (#105295) Journal

          But if you have to make up a movie-plot to worry about

          "Movie-plot"? This sort of thing happens every day.

          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday October 12 2014, @10:20PM

            by Anonymous Coward on Sunday October 12 2014, @10:20PM (#105302)

            > "Movie-plot"? This sort of thing happens every day.

            In the movies.

            • (Score: 1) by khallow on Monday October 13 2014, @12:18AM

              by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Monday October 13 2014, @12:18AM (#105352) Journal
              In real life. Seriously, take your naivety elsewhere.
              • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday October 13 2014, @04:17AM

                by Anonymous Coward on Monday October 13 2014, @04:17AM (#105425)

                [Citation needed]

                • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday October 13 2014, @12:21PM

                  by Anonymous Coward on Monday October 13 2014, @12:21PM (#105503)

                  Here's the citation [soylentnews.org] you asked for.