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Brianna Wu, head of the independent gaming studio Giant Spacekat, was the target of a series of tweets containing death threats on Friday; one published her home address (since redacted). The poster's Twitter account has been disabled.
Wu responded on Friday night with the tweet:
Brianna Wu @Spacekatgal
The police just came by. Husband and I are going somewhere safe.
Remember, #gamergate isn't about attacking women.
GamerGate supporters denounced the threats and "doxxing" against Wu and disavowed the poster. However, several suspected that the tweets were a false flag created by anti-GamerGate forces:
Sun Knight @SunKnightO
@Sen_Armstrong @Spacekatgal @chatterwhiteman It's clearly either a troll or false flag shame that people actually think its legit.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday October 12 2014, @05:44PM
I don't really know much about this incident, nor do I really care to. It all seems unnecessarily dramatic and stupid to me.
But there is one thing I've noticed whenever I accidentally run across any discussion of this matter: those in the "social justice warrior" camp, such as yourself, come across as extremely hypocritical.
Let me give you an example, using your very own comment. So you're apparently against people who attack others, yet you engage in the exact same behavior yourself.
Describing those you dislike as "a bunch of assholes", or "a bunch of misogynistic, abusive, sociopathic assholes", or "the assholes", or "the abusive little fucktards" are abusive attacks, plain and simple.
It's strange that you label them as "sociopathic", while your entire comment comes off as such.
It is really, really hard to take you seriously when you and others come off as so blatantly hypocritical. For all of the preaching you do about equality and tolerance, you guys seem to be the most spiteful, intolerant folks around!
(Score: 2, Informative) by tathra on Sunday October 12 2014, @05:49PM
stopped reading right there. that you even think such a thing exists shows you're an idiot, and if thats not enough, you're using it as a strawman (which also proves you're an idiot) so there's still no reason to read past it.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday October 12 2014, @05:52PM
Now you're arguing against your own existence?
That may be the ultimate form of hypocrisy: claiming that you don't even exist when you clearly do, because you're in front of us trying to make the argument that you don't exist!
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday October 12 2014, @05:57PM
I prefer "Social Justice Magic User" but for special days I play a "Social Justice Rogue" on the net. That's because I got mad social justice skillz!
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday October 13 2014, @01:25AM
On another site I lurk on someone suggested that they would be going with "Social Justice Bard". I kinda like that one.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday October 12 2014, @05:57PM
It's real [reddit.com]
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday October 12 2014, @09:12PM
Why is tathra's absolutely dumb comment modded up to 3, Informative? It's asinine. Of course there are people called 'social justice warriors'.
(Score: 2) by HiThere on Sunday October 12 2014, @08:27PM
Both sides come off as hypocritical. I'm sure there's some truth and some just position, but it's not worth my time to dig for it.
Javascript is what you use to allow unknown third parties to run software you have no idea about on your computer.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday October 12 2014, @08:39PM
How? That does not make any sense. It just seems that you are speaking for the sake of speaking, not caring about the issues presented and claiming both sides are the same without willing to understand either.
(Score: 2) by tathra on Sunday October 12 2014, @10:14PM
telling somebody that smoking is bad for them while lighting up a cigarette is extremely hypocritical, but that doesn't mean its bad advice. calling somebody a hypocrite as a method to undercut their message is purely an ad hominem though. whether or not somebody is a hypocrite is merely a red herring, at best.
the problem isnt hypocrisy, its that the only "side" i've seen doesn't actually have a message, just a bunch of abusive namecalling towards everyone who disagrees with them or points out the flaws in their arguments or calls them out on their outright lies. if you can't figure out which 'side' that is, here's a hint: they use terms like "white knight" and "social justice warrior".
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday October 12 2014, @10:43PM
It's not ad hominem to call a hypocrite, such as yourself, a hypocrite when you've clearly demonstrated extremely hypocritical behavior.
If I call you a human, and you are a human, it's not an insult. It's a statement of fact.
If I call you a hypocrite, and you are a hypocrite, it's not an insult. It's a statement of fact.
(Score: 2) by Hairyfeet on Monday October 13 2014, @04:51AM
You can pretend brown people don't exist, don't make it so. would you like an example of a social justice warrior? be happy to help, here ya go [osnews.com]. Notice that anybody that disagrees with him supports rape, THAT is the perfect example of a SJWer, you see there is no difference of opinion allowed, you support X or you are Y, end of story. its ironic that these same people in the 50s would have probably been screaming "nigger lover!" at those that disagreed with them but now its words like "rape enabler".
Personally I don't give a fuck about your politics, what your genitals look like, or what sex you want to call yourself, hell be a Klingon for all I give a shit. But what I DO give very much a shit about is free speech and social justice warriors are totalitarians which can all go burn in hell as far as I'm concerned. ANY group, be it left or right, libertarian or communist, that refuse to allow or broke ANY dissent by using straight up attacks? Are the asscancer of the net. You can pretend they don't exist, pretend Jews don't exist, hell you can pretend I don't exist and the world is but a dream...again won't make it so.
ACs are never seen so don't bother. Always ready to show SJWs for the racists they are.
(Score: 2) by tathra on Monday October 13 2014, @05:39AM
so why not just call them that instead of making up some special word that "coincidentally" gets used to label everyone who disagrees with you? why make up some special, brand new pejorative that gets used exactly the same as every racial slur ever? if the people who used that term cared about anything except wanting to be able to attack people, they'd tear apart their arguments, pointing out their fallacies instead of using fallacies and propaganda techniques themselves (specifically, ad hominems, name calling, labeling, and demonizing the enemy). if they ignore those and continue repeating the same old bullshit over and over again, there's already a word for that - denialist.
everyone who uses any slur, including "social justice warrior", is just outing themselves as a bigot.
(Score: 2) by Hairyfeet on Monday October 13 2014, @08:37AM
Because there are totalitarians that are NOT SJWers? Your argument would be like saying "Because SOME Muslims are black then ALL Muslims are black" when that just isn't the case, there are capitalist totalitarians, communist totalitarians, even religious totalitarians but you can bet your last buck that NONE of those groups would stand in the same room with a SJWer, which you will find is typically an ultra leftist white upper middle class with a MASSIVE dose of white guilt. When in doubt the correct answer to a SJWer is to blame anybody white with a penis, anybody white with a vagina gets a pass UNLESS they are in ANY way religious or conservative, then see white penis.
ACs are never seen so don't bother. Always ready to show SJWs for the racists they are.
(Score: 2) by tathra on Monday October 13 2014, @06:07AM
and by the way, now that i've read that link, i notice that doesn't show what you claim it does. the closest i can find is this one:
Oh boy! People who disagree with the distraction narrative must obviously support rapists, and an implication of misogyny thrown in for good measure.
Way to prove the point...
which is just sarcasm and hyperbole (did you get poe's law'd by that?), i don't see anything that even gives a feeling of "everyone who disagrees with me is a rapist!" almost everything can be claimed to be something its not when taken out of context, especially when used by somebody with an agenda.
(Score: 2) by Hairyfeet on Monday October 13 2014, @08:29AM
Then you obviously have trouble reading because no matter what anybody else said his ONLY response was "ZOMFG they are gonna rape Zoe you bastard penis holders!"
You will see this is SOP of the SJWers, its a classic "derail the thread" tactic, no different if in the middle of an Apple iOS versus Android discussion I interjected "Did you know Apple is loved by niggers"? Does their users being black have fuck all to do with a discussion about iOS versus Android? Nope just as what kind of threats (if any, I have seen enough of her act to know this woman loves to troll for flamebaits, helps plug her products) that Zoe Quinn had in the past had to do with the discussion, which was "did the game reviewers secretly conspire to control the narrative?"...BTW if you are curious the answer is yes, since somebody leaked their hidden Google Group emails.
ACs are never seen so don't bother. Always ready to show SJWs for the racists they are.
(Score: 2) by tathra on Monday October 13 2014, @03:55PM
i'm honestly trying to figure out where you see that, so i'm going to paste in every quote from that link so you can point exactly to it.
It begins with simple threats. You know, rape, dismemberment, the usual. It's a good place to start, those threats, because you might simply vanish once those threats include your family. Mission accomplished. But today, many women online - you women who are far braver than I am - you stick around. And now, since you stuck around through the first wave of threats, you are now a much BIGGER problem. Because the Worst Possible Thing has happened: as a result of those attacks, you are NOW serving Victim-Flavored Koolaid.
And Victim-Flavored Koolaid is the most dangerous substance on earth, apparently. And that just can't be allowed.
'congratulations on having thick skin, but you probably have a persecution complex'
The fact that I have to turn off comments on articles about the systematic abuse women receive from these low-life idiots on a small site like OSNews is all the proof you need. Until I no longer receive abusive comments for pointing out this issue, comments will remain closed.
'comments are turned off because i keep getting threats, threats which prove widespread...' (misogyny i assume?)
All of the allegations against Zoe Quinn were fabricated, made up out of whole cloth, but it's cool, feel free to continue absolving these dicks of any wrong doing.
There may be wide spread corruption in the game journalist community, but nothing about gamergate shows any of that.
They drove that woman out of her own home, using threats of sexual and other typed of physical abuse, published her person details to the net, they tried to destroy her.
What's pervasive is the misogyny that seems inherent to parts of the internet.
repeats the opponent's position, and then gives a description of what happened, and from what i understand about the situation its not even exaggeration. nothing like what you claim though.
Oh boy! People who disagree with the distraction narrative must obviously support rapists, and an implication of misogyny thrown in for good measure.
Way to prove the point...
the only one close to what you claim, but its Poe's Law in action if that's it.
It does prove the point, it's not a distraction, it was the entire operation, the whole "controversy" was nothing more than an excuse to harass somebody to the point they had to flee their home.
In real life, adults are suppose to investigate wrongdoing, and then deal with it appropriately. Are you saying that threatening a person with rape and death, committing slander and massive privacy violations, to the point they need to run from their home, is a just punishment for some sort of nebulous corruption in gaming media?
Really?
arguing with each other
I'll invoke Godwin's Law: It's like saying "I support National socialists(Nazi) because they had proof that store-owners manipulated certain market, but focusing on attacks on jews is distracting the narrative"
However off-topic this is, it's in that lane.
An no matter how good the ethics in journalism struggle is, you will have to defend against accusations of misogyny and will be attracting misogynists to #GamerGate. It's an empty name that is just a sack of s**t.
starts off saying he's invoking godwins, then points out that misogynist are the voice of the "gamergate" "movement"
I would like to point out that a lot of the bad behavior is NOT misogyny. They hate people pretty equally in my view with men getting as much crap from these people as women.
Do they make things up about these men in order to fan the flames and then reveal their personal location/contact details?
Would a male journalist get the same crap if they wrote that misogyny doesn't exist in the community?
which, exactly, is the example of "you're disagreeing with me? YOU RAPIST!" because i'm not seeing it. is there another post that you were trying to link to and gave me the wrong link? or are you just exhibiting a perfect example of a straw man, projecting and putting your words into other people's mouths, intentionally misconstruing what they say in order to justify your bigotry?
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday October 12 2014, @08:33PM
Describing those you dislike as "a bunch of assholes", or "a bunch of misogynistic, abusive, sociopathic assholes", or "the assholes", or "the abusive little fucktards" are abusive attacks, plain and simple.
The problem you are grappling with is a difference of definitions. You think the people you call SJWs are against name-calling when they are really against is undeserved name-calling. Sure there are some people in gamergate who are not abusive fucktards. But (a) gamergate membership is 100% voluntary and (b) there are lots and lots of actually abusive fucktards in the group. The saying, "you are known by the company you keep" applies here.
So they are definitely hypocrites if they are against name-calling. But since that's not their actual position, they aren't really all that hypocritical.
(Score: 3, Insightful) by cafebabe on Monday October 13 2014, @08:18AM
I thought that gamergate was the name of the controversy. Is there some sleight-of-hand by associating the term with one faction only?
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(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday October 13 2014, @09:30AM
(Different AC here.)
Short version: maybe we should call it the "GamerGate controversy controversy". ;-)
#GamerGate is the Twitter hashtag used for the discussing accusations of breaches of journalistic integrity in videogame news sites as of a couple months ago. The anti-#GamerGate side claims the accusations of journalistic integrity under the #GamerGate banner were a fabricated controversy to attack women, due to #GamerGate appearing to have started in response to a blog post by a game developer's ex-boyfriend trying to get back at her for breaking up with him. This article is referencing the latest woman to be driven out of her home due to threats organized under the #GamerGate banner.
(Score: 2) by Arik on Monday October 13 2014, @12:54AM
If laughter is the best medicine, who are the best doctors?