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regift_of_the_gods writes:
"A study that was published last year by two Oxford researchers predicted that 47 percent of US jobs could be computerized within the next 20 years, including both manual labor and high cognition office work. The Oxford report presented three axes to show what types of jobs were relatively safe from being routed by robots and software; those requiring high levels of social intelligence (public relations), creativity (scientist, fashion designer), or perception and manipulation (surgeon) were less likely to be displaced.
This further obsolescence of jobs due to automation may have already begun. The Financial Times describes an emerging wave of products and services from algorithmic-intensive, data-rich tech startups that will threaten increasing numbers of jobs including both knowledge and blue collar workers. The lead example is Kensho, a startup founded by ex-Google and Apple engineers that is building an engine to estimate the impact of real or hypothetical news items on security prices, with questions posed in a natural language. Specialist knowledge workers in many other fields, including law and medicine, could also be at risk. At lower income levels, the dangerous are posed by increasingly agile and autonomous robots, such as those Amazon uses to staff some of its fulfillment warehouses.
(Score: 2) by bucc5062 on Tuesday March 04 2014, @09:38PM
I don't want to get much into ya yo mamma type discussion, but you still miss his point.
I too worked menial jobs before college and after college. I also found gainful employment and was able to work my way up the income ladder to the point where I live a comfortable, yet not far from the edge life. Yeah Us!!
How would you feel if after college you never got past that menial job or the next or the next. Working as a carpenter for a year, with 20 years of experience in the IT world both humbled me in how little I knew about carpentry work and did bring about a level of work ethic and viewpoint to make it interesting. However I also found that my witty (to some), intelligent conversations did not go far when hanging out with folks that had not my background in education or work. I got back into my IT world, but being down had a profound effect on my life view. I learned that most people who do not have a similar education, background, or worldview will not accept you. It is either adapt or be outside.
So back to the situation you and I experienced. Menial work after higher education. This time you don't get out of the cycle. You drift further and further from your starting point and for you to have a life, friends, companionship you start to change. Friends you knew that got jobs, moved up, no longer hanging with you for they are busy with new friends. To build friends and have a decent working environment you start to accept a different world view. Where once the world was big, now it is no bigger then the next county or even town. One day you come across a picture, or maybe a physics book. You open it up only to find you don't remember much of what you learned. You think your the same, but in truth, your younger self would no longer recognize or understand who you are.
Feel free to deny, but I lived that 7 years ago. By Grace I got back on track to a lesser, but similar life I had and now can even look at making my own decision to make a life change, not by some corporation or private business. I was lucky though I did make some of my own.
People who do not have an education and make a subsistence wage most times don't have a clue that life can be different, they are relatively happy living in that moment, and most times could/can live a full life if they are treated with respect and they don't have a government/corporation shit on them. When Amerika lost its Labor Unions it threw its low income and poor into the crapper and hit the flush button (and that is being kind)
The more things change, the more they look the same
(Score: 2) by Sir Garlon on Tuesday March 04 2014, @10:17PM
Well, I don't think I would have sat around feeling sorry for myself, and I don't think I would have let my intellectual life go completely to seed, or lost touch with my college friends. So yeah, I guess I don't follow your point.
[Sir Garlon] is the marvellest knight that is now living, for he destroyeth many good knights, for he goeth invisible.
(Score: 2) by bucc5062 on Wednesday March 05 2014, @03:05AM
I like you. You are a funny guy with a certainly set view on life. That you would not have done that is a good thing. For those that did..well fuck em I guess. It is the prevailing attitude these days.
Me? Having been banged up a bit by life, I guess I'm just one of those has beens that actually cares about people, even those I don't know.
I'll leave it at that. We just differ I guess. Not a bad thing since diversity breeds innovation and introspection.
The more things change, the more they look the same
(Score: 2) by edIII on Wednesday March 05 2014, @05:31AM
We are on the same page for sure, and your eloquent explanation was exactly the point I was trying to make to him. Albeit, I did that with the subtlety and tact of a hurricane in Florida.
In much the same way, I've had the benefit of education and a sophisticated intellect (I'm more grateful than anyone can know, that I can think, and understand I am no better than anyone else). Also, in much the same way, I've had the benefit of life handing me my ass, and as a result learned empathy through mutual suffering.
Technically, lunchtime is at any moment. It's just a wave function.
(Score: 2) by Sir Garlon on Wednesday March 05 2014, @01:04PM
Thanks. I actually care about people too, I just show it through "tough love" sometimes. ;-) I have seen two close friends really get stuck in a rut working menial jobs after college, and I have had the satisfaction of playing a small role in helping them get their careers back on track. I think the problem we're discussing here is that is likely to get much harder to do. All I can say is, play the hand you're dealt. Sometimes unexpected opportunities come along. The educated waitress I knew got a job helping run a print magazine, which still ain't prestigious but she considered it a step up.
[Sir Garlon] is the marvellest knight that is now living, for he destroyeth many good knights, for he goeth invisible.