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Johnson & Johnson vaccine linked to rare cases of autoimmune disorder:
The Food and Drug Administration announced a change to the fact sheet on Johnson & Johnson's COVID-19 vaccine Monday, warning of an increased risk of Guillain-Barré syndrome, a neurological disorder that damages the nerves and can lead to paralysis.
"Based on an analysis of Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting (VAERS) data, there have been 100 preliminary reports following vaccination with the Janssen vaccine after approximately 12.5 million doses administered," an FDA spokesperson said in a statement to CNET. Ninety-five of the cases were serious and required hospitalization, with one reported death, according to the FDA.
The cases of Guillain-Barré usually occurred about two weeks after vaccination and were typically found in males aged 50 and older, according to a statement by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. The CDC said it will discuss the link between the US's only single-dose COVID vaccine and the autoimmune disorder at an upcoming meeting of the Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices. It also said that most people fully recover from Guillain-Barré syndrome.
The known benefits of Johnson & Johnson's COVID-19 vaccine continue to outweigh the known risks, the FDA said. But those who got a Johnson & Johnson shot should seek medical attention if they develop the following symptoms, per the FDA: weakness or tingling sensations, especially in the legs or arms, that's worsening and spreading to other parts of the body; difficulty walking; difficulty with facial movements, including speaking, chewing or swallowing; double vision or inability to move eyes; or difficulty with bladder control or bowel function.
[...] Guillain-Barré can occur after infections with viruses such as the flu, Epstein Barr or Zika, the CDC reports. Guillain-Barré also occurs after infection with Campylobacter bacteria, which is the most common bacterial cause of diarrhea. It has also been been associated with other vaccines, such as those for the flu and shingles, according to the FDA. Although most people fully recover from Guillain-Barré syndrome, it can lead to severe nerve damage and paralysis. It's also most common in men and people over age 50.
Also at CNN.
Wikipedia entry on Guillain-Barré.
(Score: 5, Informative) by linkdude64 on Tuesday July 13 2021, @05:59AM (24 children)
...after taking the Pfizer vaccine. So it's surprising to see that this was from the J&J - however, doctors refused to list the cause of death as the vaccine, so you have to wonder how many people are actually dying from the vaccines. Now, if you're emotionally reacting to the question, you're going to be assuming that's a right-wing talking point. But I only mean for the sake of science that we need to be aware of how many people die, let's say, in ANY clinical trial for ANY drug. Right now, they are NOT collecting accurate data, and the government-media complex is running coverage for the pharmaceutical industry, which seems to be factually - not just politically - accurate.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 13 2021, @06:50AM (3 children)
Male [way] over fifty here. Got the J&J one-and-done four months ago. No clots. No new auto-immunities. Kind of disappointed that I didn't get a ticket into the next world. Oh well.
Only vaxxed to set my kids minds at ease.
And OBTW, causes of auto-immune disease are still unknown, but tons of cases have been showing up over the past twenty years. Something is rotten in our environment. Twelve years ago I suddenly became allergic to every form of milk product, and suffered for a year with "chronic urticaria" from head to toe. I eventually traced it to the butter and cheese I loved so much. On the first of every month, try a piece of pizza to see if the allergy has miraculously healed - no luck so far. Avoiding milk products, I am healthy as an ox.
Given my experience, I would not be hasty in concluding that the correlation is causation in the case of the vaccine. Oh, and also the news blurb I heard noted that only one person (out of 12 million) has died of this, and TFS above notes that most people will recover from the malady. I still will not hesitate to recommend J&J.
As ever, YMMV. Maybe you'll be a lucky lotto winner. Odds are [way] against it.
(Score: 4, Funny) by hendrikboom on Tuesday July 13 2021, @12:30PM (1 child)
Quick! Apply for a patent on time travel!
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 13 2021, @02:33PM
We time lords never need hurry.
(Score: 2) by FatPhil on Tuesday July 13 2021, @03:42PM
It's a complex OS, and the software still has bugs.
Chatting to a friend just earlier today about hair and she mentioned that someone she knows just had a baby, and she "caught" partial alopecia from the pregnancy.
Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people; the smallest discuss themselves
(Score: 5, Insightful) by Username on Tuesday July 13 2021, @08:03AM (6 children)
Dying with covid is a covid death. Dying with covid vaccine is just coincidence. Amazing how counting methods change when liability is involved.
(Score: 3, Insightful) by Common Joe on Tuesday July 13 2021, @09:38AM (5 children)
This.
I have someone close to me who was diagnosed with being permanently dizzy (purposely withholding the diagnosis) shortly after vaccination and they strongly suspect it was the Pfizer vaccine. The sad part is that no doctor wants to touch that one with a ten foot pole. Now, I'll admit that they are a little bit conspiracy happy, so it's hard for me to know if it's just this person going off on nothing or if there is something there. The problem is that I've seen many doctors who don't give a crap or who are overworked. If we don't gather symptoms and run some stats, how do we know what's vaccine related and what isn't?
(Score: 2) by JoeMerchant on Tuesday July 13 2021, @10:25AM (4 children)
Semi permanent vertigo was already quite common before COVID came around, my wife did therapy for hers for months in her mid 50s and eventually just learned to live with it. I was lucky, got an acute case of vertigo around age 48 that completely resolved in days. When you mention yours, other people will share their own similar experiences, some diagnosed, fewer treated, by medical professionals, many not.
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(Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 13 2021, @01:26PM (2 children)
Vertigo? Try the eply maneuver
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BtT2PDJVXlk [youtube.com]
(Score: 2) by Common Joe on Tuesday July 13 2021, @02:26PM (1 child)
Won't work in this case, but I wanted to thank you because I wanted a good video of this for a while now. I'd heard about it but never seen it. The lady explains it really well. And the Eply maneuver can help someone else I do know.
(Score: 2) by JoeMerchant on Tuesday July 13 2021, @03:51PM
Used it on my wife several times - improved but did not cure her symptoms. Eventually quit improving the symptoms too.
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(Score: 2) by Common Joe on Tuesday July 13 2021, @02:29PM
Oof. No fun. I'm glad it turned out ok for you and your wife. For the person I have in mind, they will also have to just learn to live with it, but they're feeling pretty bummed about it because of the other health issues they are dealing with. (Death by a thousand paper cuts kind of thing.)
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 13 2021, @08:17AM (4 children)
332 million people in the US. The background rate in the US generally increases with age, but medians around 1.11 per 100,000. Right now they are well within the expectations, even with all the fake VAERS reports being added. And they are collecting data in the actual trials. But if you are worried about deaths outside the trials, then report it to VAERS yourself.
(Score: 2, Insightful) by shrewdsheep on Tuesday July 13 2021, @08:49AM (3 children)
The difference is that there is a temporal connection between vaccination and onset of Guillain-Barré syndrome, making it more likely to be a causal relationship. The comparison to background rates is usually inappropriate. Statistically, associations can usually not be proven due to small number of events (with 100 events it might be possible). The decision to suggest an adverse drug reaction (ADR) is made informally, by a committee weighing the evidence (e.g. a DSMB).
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 13 2021, @09:34AM (2 children)
Post hoc ergo propter hoc. Absent other evidence and given the fact that adverse events can happen just due the randomness of life, saying it is the vaccine's fault requires evidence. In the Janssen vaccine, they have some evidence, likely because of the type of vaccine it is or because of the trial data allowing further insight, that they are going to discuss at the ACIP meeting. A random person on the Internet with no apparent expertise or understanding saying "this happened and then that happened" isn't.
(Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 13 2021, @11:56AM (1 child)
Your philosophy will severely undercount the side effects. You realize this, don't you? Hypothetical: "Hey, I took the vaccine 3 days ago, healthy as an ox, and now I'm so dizzy, I can't walk straight!" "Pure coincidence. Proves nothing!"
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 13 2021, @10:32PM
The problem with being right for a bad reason is that you cannot tell it apart from being wrong for a bad reason without a good reason. If we allow temporal antecedence alone to determine causality, then literally every event caused all of those that followed. Getting vaccinated caused you to get hit by a bus walking to work. A butterfly flapping its wings in Nepal caused a man to trip in Mexico five minutes later. Shutting your finger in a drawer is why your mom called seconds after. That sharp and unexpected turn they took as a passenger in traffic caused your neighbor's cat's stroke. All of those are just as valid, that is completely invalid and weak.
(Score: 2, Insightful) by Runaway1956 on Tuesday July 13 2021, @12:36PM (6 children)
That exactly. We knew a year ago that deaths were being attributed to the COVIDS pointlessly. Dude came down the road at 180 mph on his motorcycle, and embedded his skull into a Mack Truck engine compartment. Cause of death was COVIDS. Doctors have a lot of discretion in determining cause of death.
Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
(Score: 2) by Tork on Tuesday July 13 2021, @04:04PM (5 children)
You believed a meme that said that and when the eggheads came out and properly explained you lost interest.
Slashdolt Logic: "25 year old jokes about sharks and lasers are +5, Funny." 💩
(Score: 3, Insightful) by Runaway1956 on Tuesday July 13 2021, @04:13PM (4 children)
Nonsense. You go ahead and tell yourself that, if it helps you to keep faith in the talking heads. Right here in Backwoods, Nowhere, deaths were attributed to COVID after they died of various causes. Those causes ranged from long term terminal diseases to auto accidents. There were financial incentives for hospitals to report COVID deaths, and at least some of those hospitals took advantage of those incentives.
Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
(Score: 2) by Tork on Tuesday July 13 2021, @04:17PM (3 children)
Your news sources keep ya coming back to re-arm for more debates.
Slashdolt Logic: "25 year old jokes about sharks and lasers are +5, Funny." 💩
(Score: 2) by linkdude64 on Wednesday July 14 2021, @01:11AM (2 children)
Not to comment on your particular spat, but mid last year, a close friend's aunt was an elderly lady in the hospital on what was likely to be her death bed. She had stage 4 pancreatic cancer, and was too weak to perform further chemotherapy - She fell out of her hospital bed and hit her head on the hospital floor, which caused a large brain hemorrhage, so she was transferred to the ICU, where she died the next day. Guess what was listed as the cause of death on her certificate? COVID-19. You can say things like, "This doesn't happen anywhere, ever, no matter what." But that's tribalism, rather than science which is supposed to acknowledge the complexity of reality by going to such lengths to control it, but of course that more existential notion has been lost on many.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday July 14 2021, @03:18PM
So, we are now offering anecdotes of what happened to the aunt of a "close friend" of some random person posting under a pseudonym on the internet as evidence? Seriously?!?
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday July 15 2021, @12:19AM
Ah yes, I forgot about the widespread memo to all doctors telling them to list the cause of deat as COVID whenever they felt they could get away with it! You cracked the case!
(Score: 2, Flamebait) by JoeMerchant on Tuesday July 13 2021, @03:55PM
When it's death with COVID and the agenda is to get people to take COVID seriously, it's recorded as death from COVID.
When it's death after vaccination, well sir, can you prove that your family is eligible for compensation from the vaccine injury recovery fund? No? I thought not. Death by natural causes it is, then.
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