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posted by martyb on Friday July 16 2021, @08:09AM   Printer-friendly
from the submit-neighbor's-pet's-poop dept.

Tel Aviv will test dog poop DNA to fine owners who don’t clean up:

Tel Aviv has found an innovative way of dealing with dog owners who don’t clean up after their pets in the city streets — testing the excrement’s DNA and sending a fine to the owner by mail.

The city council on Monday approved a motion setting up a DNA database and stating that dog owners will be required to submit their pets’ genetic details to authorities upon receiving or renewing a license, Hebrew-language media reported.

The validity of current dog licenses will expire six months after the new ruling takes effect, and new licenses won’t be approved unless owners give over the DNA details, the reports said.

The regulations won’t apply to guide dogs or to dogs kept by animal protection organizations.

[...] There were 6,766 calls and inquiries made to the city hall hotline over dog poop left in public spaces in 2020, according to the Ynet news site.


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  • (Score: 2, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Friday July 16 2021, @10:15AM (9 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday July 16 2021, @10:15AM (#1156835)

    I wish they would do that here. Also make the dog owner pay for the test, the cost of paying someone to come over and collect samples and submit the test, and the cost of paying someone to come over and clean up the mess.

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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday July 16 2021, @10:23AM (4 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday July 16 2021, @10:23AM (#1156838)

    >> Also make the dog owner pay for the test, the cost of paying someone to come over and collect samples and submit the test, and the cost of paying someone to come over and clean up the mess.

    Good idea in theory, but who would pay when it turned out to be a homeless person?

    • (Score: 1, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Friday July 16 2021, @11:13AM (1 child)

      by Anonymous Coward on Friday July 16 2021, @11:13AM (#1156847)

      who would pay when it turned out to be a homeless person?

      the owner of the dog or the producer of the shit?

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday July 16 2021, @12:39PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Friday July 16 2021, @12:39PM (#1156859)

        OP may have mean "H1B", in which case the meaning would be clearer.

    • (Score: 2, Troll) by fakefuck39 on Friday July 16 2021, @11:24AM (1 child)

      by fakefuck39 (6620) on Friday July 16 2021, @11:24AM (#1156851)

      There is nothing to pay. People get the dog license, the cost of which covers the DNA registry. It is illegal there, like here, to have a dog without a license. The cost of the DNA test for the dog shit, and the cleanup of said shit, is covered by the fines of the offenders now, instead of the cleanup being funded by the taxpayer. The homeless person does not have a dog license, his dog is not in the DNA registry, and his dog would not be identified with this method.

      Homeless people with dogs are not an issue in naziland though. I've been there about 30 times before they blocked my passport after being put in risk category 6 (most risk - spoken-out non-zionist jew), and I've never seen a homeless person, because there aren't any. There are under 2000 homeless people there. This is because arabs aren't people, and if there's ever a homeless jew, they just make a free home for the jew and a homeless arab, who doesn't count because he, again, is not a person.

      It's funny they're cracking down on dog shit though, with all that human shit just walking around. Someone should take a flamethrower to that - which we're doing by giving free weapons to Isreal and selling weapons to the Saudis. Gonna be nice when that whole holy area is going to be just a holy hole in the ground.

      • (Score: 3, Funny) by driverless on Friday July 16 2021, @12:45PM

        by driverless (4770) on Friday July 16 2021, @12:45PM (#1156860)

        I tell yer what, that's gonna turn into a real shit show...

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday July 16 2021, @01:56PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday July 16 2021, @01:56PM (#1156885)

    Will dog owners be required to submit poop samples ( of the dog ) to populate the database? What about cats?

  • (Score: 5, Insightful) by edIII on Friday July 16 2021, @07:31PM

    by edIII (791) on Friday July 16 2021, @07:31PM (#1157012)

    Fines are poor motivators. Those with money see it as nothing more than a speed bump, while those that are poor often get trapped in a vicious cycle of debt collection. Local government agencies start seeing the fines as revenue and assuming that revenue will always be there. Which is not a good situation because it leads to government leaders saying that they need to keep the jails full in order to keep the revenue for each jailed person rolling into the county.

    You want to stop that shit? Community service. You sentence people to have to spend their weekends either in jail, or performing cleanup work for the county. Make the person who forgot their dog's shit pick up all the shit that can be seen for 8 hours on the next 2 months worth of weekends. That includes all kinds of debris, like cigarette butts and litter. There is always some kind of grunt work that needs to be done, and they will be the ones doing it.

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  • (Score: 2) by ledow on Sunday July 18 2021, @12:34PM

    by ledow (5567) on Sunday July 18 2021, @12:34PM (#1157553) Homepage

    Great, so all I need to do to have you fined is somehow collect any of your dog's poop (e.g. out of a park dog-poop bin), spread it around town, call them in, and you'll have to pay all the costs?

    This kind of stuff is nonsense because without catching them in the act, it legally means nothing.

    And because of that, the opportunity for misuse is rife.

    And because of that, even people who were responsible will just say "Well, anyone could have put that there, you can't prove it was me".

    All you've really done is added in the costs of a dog-poop detection agency, plus legal bills galore, to the taxpayer.

    It won't solve the problem at all.

    Even simple things: What if your dog-walker lets it happen? Do you fine the owner without question? The dog-walker? Let them argue it in court? How would you prove who was walking the dog? And if you don't have to prove who was walking the dog, again, the opportunity for a pissed-off teenager who got sacked from dog-walking to just plant poop all over the town is rife.

    It's a stupid idea.

    Just put a fine on allowing your dog to do it, and fine anyone caught doing it. Like the rest of the world does.

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday July 19 2021, @05:36PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday July 19 2021, @05:36PM (#1157956)

    Also kill all the cats and fine the owners. Except, not "also", "instead.