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posted by mrpg on Sunday July 18 2021, @12:12PM   Printer-friendly

EU unveils sweeping climate change plan:

The European Union has announced a raft of climate change proposals aimed at pushing it towards its goal of becoming carbon neutral by 2050.

A dozen draft proposals, which still need to be approved by the bloc's 27 member states and the EU parliament, were announced on Wednesday.

They include plans to tax jet fuel and effectively ban the sale of petrol and diesel powered cars within 20 years.

The proposals, however, could face years of negotiations.

The plans triggered serious infighting at the European Commission, the bloc's administrative arm, as the final tweaks were being made, sources told the AFP news agency.


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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday July 18 2021, @02:07PM (3 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday July 18 2021, @02:07PM (#1157579)

    i think the legislatur.ah?.kri ... whatever that word is, well the law should say that energy in europe needs to become free. very simple!
    wind as source? it's free!
    sun as source? it's free!
    hydro as source? it's free!
    see a trend here? there is GINORMOUS potential of free energy.
    the legis.kratu.tum whatever the word, should legally guarantee endless access to free energy!
    use MORE energy, not less!
    we can see in switzerland how laws where created to make you use less energy! the laws there where NOT modified so the populance can get access to MORE free energy! poor swiss were hoodwinked!
    oh well, "save energy" all you want until all you get per year is one AAA battery.
    do you NOT SEE?

  • (Score: 4, Interesting) by turgid on Sunday July 18 2021, @05:37PM (2 children)

    by turgid (4318) on Sunday July 18 2021, @05:37PM (#1157633) Journal

    Wind, solar and hydro may be "free" but they are not limitless. Humans tend to demand more and more over time. We always think of new things to do and new ways to use up all the resources we already have. That's why we need nuclear fusion power. That will keep us going a bit longer.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday July 19 2021, @01:31PM (1 child)

      by Anonymous Coward on Monday July 19 2021, @01:31PM (#1157867)

      thanks for reply to a shitty original post:
      the world we see today is a world build by and geard towards fossile fuels.
      our sense of "requirement", " basic needs" and eveb "aesthetics" all originates from a culture that used fossile fuels as primary source.
      what i fear is happening is that "someone" (probably a group of people) consider this the pinnacle of human evolution in energy usage. a sistin chapel, so too speak, a work of art and needs to be preserved.
      they know or suspect that continues growth of fossile fuel usage is detrimental.
      but instead of looking for alternatives, the current situation is considered a "work of art" (or a way of life) that must be preserved. the solution is to dictate a limit on energy consumption; it is arbitrarily believed that non-fossile energy consumption cannot possibly eclipse the current rate of energy consumption from fossile fuel.
      thus "the work of art" is declared a historical monument, alternatives are simple discarded because they would maybe require a change in society and culture. just imagine if all altars of fossile fuel consumption (highways) were transformed into areas covered with solarpanels? or picturesque high-society wooden chale(s)t holiday resorts inundated by a massive pumped water storage dam?
      the examples are miriad and the rich and influencal are thus what they are because they grew from a society geared for fossile fuel consumption.
      thus we need to fear laws that limit our energy consumption only and at the same time, indirectly hamper the full bloom of non fossile fuel energy into a new and better era (with an even prettier sistine chapel and maybe a nice martian concret bunker on the highest mountain in the solar system).

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday July 19 2021, @01:52PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Monday July 19 2021, @01:52PM (#1157871)

        okay here's the "nutshell" ver.:
        we found 10 barrels of energy. today we used up maybe 5 but we found out that the waste from using barrels have to go somewhere (socalled climate change).
        so instead of deciding to use the 5 remaining barrels to find and aggresively switch to something else, we decide to limit how to "pollute more controlled", thus limiting growth and declare with the strock of a pen (" the law") that we have finished our "fossile fuel based work of art" and and further usage of remaining barrels is for preservation of this "museum".