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posted by martyb on Wednesday July 21 2021, @10:48AM   Printer-friendly

U.S. seeks to speed rooftop solar growth with instant permits:

The Solar Automated Permit Processing (SolarAPP+) platform, developed by DOE's National Renewable Energy Laboratory, will be an optional portal for local governments to process permit applications automatically.

Approvals typically take a week or more currently, and permit-related costs can account for about a third of installers' overall costs, DOE said. The software speeds the process up by standardizing requirements, streamlining the application and automating some approvals.

Administration officials said the software will help speed adoption of rooftop solar and achieve President Joe Biden's goal of decarbonizing the U.S. electricity grid by 2035, a key pillar of his plan to address climate change. DOE has said that solar energy will need to be installed at a pace as much as five times faster than it is today to realize that goal.

[...] The portal performs an automatic review of permit applications, approving eligible systems instantly. Complex or ineligible systems are re-routed for additional review.

Local governments will not have to pay for the portal, DOE said. DOE is challenging 125 mayors and local officials to sign up for the SolarAPP tool before the end of the summer.


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  • (Score: 4, Insightful) by fakefuck39 on Thursday July 22 2021, @01:36AM (4 children)

    by fakefuck39 (6620) on Thursday July 22 2021, @01:36AM (#1158982)

    >I personally would rather this corruption just be minimized

    what you're saying is there's too much fat, and too much corruption. newsflash, a percent of the population are corrupt, a percent lazy, and a percent like to fuck little boys. you end up with any organization with fat, and any church with pedo priests. your solution is "don't hire corrupt lazy people." that's like having a dirty pitcher of water and trying to pour yourself a clean glass from it.

    we have what we have. unless you have a better plan to have an organization build with this mix of people, you don't have a solution, you have a useless rant. and no, oversight agencies and things like that won't get the water clean. those are already in place. if they weren't, that $10k in fees would be $20k in fees.

    >These costs don't go down unless we make them go down.
    and we are indeed keeping them down. the cost you're complaining about now, would be much higher if we didn't. your solution of "less overhead and less management" would not result in a leaner organization. it would result in the building in Florida that collapsed killing a bunch of people.

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  • (Score: 0, Flamebait) by khallow on Sunday July 25 2021, @04:13AM (3 children)

    by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Sunday July 25 2021, @04:13AM (#1159708) Journal

    what you're saying is there's too much fat, and too much corruption.

    The thing is, I'm not speaking of shaving slivers of fat, mild inefficiency off of a near perfect process. $90 for a $5 job means you're not even within an order of magnitude of efficient.

    unless you have a better plan to have an organization build with this mix of people, you don't have a solution, you have a useless rant.

    Of course, I have a better plan. Fire their asses. Then that organization isn't built with that mix of people.

    • (Score: 2) by fakefuck39 on Sunday July 25 2021, @04:21AM (2 children)

      by fakefuck39 (6620) on Sunday July 25 2021, @04:21AM (#1159709)

      You do seem to consistently miss the point. It's not a $5 job retard - it's a $5 license. I outlined that in detail. You need printers and IT, background check systems to talk, inter-state checks for tickets, criminal records, link to federal and state systems, HR, lawyers, a graphic designer for the forms, maternity leave, website designers, etc.

      >Of course, I have a better plan. Fire their asses.
      Cool. And the people who decide who gets fired are from that dirty water pool too. Internal Affairs got the cops in check - right?

      >Then that organization isn't built with that mix of people.
      It is, it's just smaller now so your shit costs even more and takes even longer.

      If you think $90 for a $5 card is too much, you'd be surprised how much the ingredients for a coffee at a starbucks cost.

      • (Score: 0, Troll) by khallow on Sunday July 25 2021, @11:51AM (1 child)

        by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Sunday July 25 2021, @11:51AM (#1159746) Journal

        >Then that organization isn't built with that mix of people.

        It is, it's just smaller now so your shit costs even more and takes even longer.

        Unless, of course, it's faster because the shit got removed.

        Cool. And the people who decide who gets fired are from that dirty water pool too. Internal Affairs got the cops in check - right?

        Then maybe the problem is just that permitting shouldn't be done by that government. If they're not going to do the job relatively efficiently, then I'm fine with not paying them to not do the job.

        If you think $90 for a $5 card is too much, you'd be surprised how much the ingredients for a coffee at a starbucks cost.

        "Ingredients" - you're not counting the labor and capital costs? Why the double standard?

        • (Score: 2) by fakefuck39 on Sunday July 25 2021, @12:18PM

          by fakefuck39 (6620) on Sunday July 25 2021, @12:18PM (#1159751)

          >Unless, of course, it's faster because the shit got removed.
          yes, less staff means faster work. That's why my checkout at the grocery store is faster when there's a single cashier. you are a retard

          >permitting shouldn't be done by that government
          The solution to expensive housing permits is to replace the government. A king perhaps, or an EU-style parliament with a premier.

          >I'm fine with not paying them to not do the job.
          Then you're fine with a guy building a meat smoke factory next to your house. Cool. How about a guy who builds a tall house, that collapses onto yours and kills your kids. Oh who am I kidding, how can an incel have kids.

          > "Ingredients" - you're not counting the labor and capital costs? Why the double standard?
          I am counting the labor costs, which is why it's $5 for a coffee, and $90 for a license. That $5 coffee includes quality control people, maternity leave, accountants, and building inspectors, for the building you walk into to get your coffee. The markup on the coffee from 20c of ingredients, is higher than the markup on the realID drivers licens, which is higher than the markup on building permits and inspections.

          >Why the double standard?
          Why indeed. Why do you have this double standard. Oh, because your autistic brain does not live in this real world, and make up one you can feel better about yourself in. Take your pills.