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Judge Ignores First Amendment, Misreads Town Law, While Ordering Resident To Remove 'Fuck Biden' Signs

A municipal court judge in New Jersey who apparently doesn't understand either the First Amendment or local ordinances has just ordered a resident to take down some f-bomb-laden signs from her yard. (h/t Peter Bonilla)

A municipal judge on Thursday ruled that a Roselle Park homeowner’s owner’s anti- President Biden flags including the F-bomb on her fence were obscene and must be removed because they violated a borough ordinance.

Roselle Park Municipal Court Judge Gary Bundy ordered the Willow Avenue homeowner to remove the signs with profanity within a week or face a $250-a-day fine. Patricia Dilascio is the property owner but her daughter, Andrea Dick, had the signs, three of which include the F-word, on display.

The signs, which can be seen in this photo, are certainly colorful in terms of language, and very definitely convey their owner's displeasure with the current regime.

(More information in link to original article.)

Opinion:

The first amendment absolutely prevents the government from censoring your speech, ESPECIALLY political speech. That is its entire purpose. ESPECIALLY political speech. Because we no longer have a king, nor do we want one. (unless it is Trump)

The 1st amendment does not limit private property owners, nor corporations from controlling their own platforms and moderating as they see fit. But it absolutely does (A) limit government, and (B) ESPECIALLY when you are displaying speech from YOUR OWN property (not someone else's property, where they could choose to not allow your speech on their property).

If people do not like Biden, they should have the right to say so as loudly and even offensively as they wish. (clue: a clear non offensive message can be more persuasive) A mildly offensive message can be effective in expressing one's outrage, without suggesting any intention of harm.

The problem here seems to be that there is a town law which forbids the use of offensive language. I like to avoid such words, for example, not using them on SN (other than quoting someone) because IMO it lowers the intelligence level. But that's just my preference. I happen to understand that other people are fine with using such language.

Perhaps this law should be focused on offensive messages rather than specific language or words. An obscene message is one thing. An F-bomb may be something different entirely, even if it could have been better worded.

In the 1977 Star Wars movie, after R2D2 emits a series of tweedle-beeps, C3P0 tells R2D2 "you watch your language", without needing say something like "watch your F'ing language".

N.J. woman must remove anti-Biden F-bomb signs or face $250-a-day fines, judge rules

F-bomb, bird flipping anti-Biden flags outside house near N.J. school infuriate neighbors

N.J. homeowner with F-bomb, anti-Biden flags ticketed, given court date

 

Reply to: Re:Meh.

    (Score: 1, Offtopic) by Runaway1956 on Thursday July 22 2021, @08:36PM

    by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Thursday July 22 2021, @08:36PM (#1159228) Homepage

    You're right, obscenity laws exist. They have existed since man first started writing laws. And, the Supreme Court has been striking them down for at least 75 years.

    For any obscenity law to pass muster with the Supreme Court, it's going to be very carefully tailored, to fit very specific circumstances, in specific times and places. They WILL NOT uphold any law that says you can't write "fuck" on your own property. Maybe a homeowner's association could enforce it - maybe. People who are dumb enough to sign an HOA contract probably aren't smart enough to fight this battle though. Fekkin' conformists.

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