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Journal by mcgrew

I discovered science fiction around 1960 when I was eight, and loved almost all of it until this century. Most of it was about trouble in paradise, whether video or literature. I read Orwell’s Animal Farm in high school, which was in the SF section of the library even though it wasn’t science fiction or speculative fiction, more like a fantasy morality tale. It was a warning about the Fascism America seems to now be marching towards.
        Because I liked that one, I found another one from Orwell, 1984. I stopped reading when the rats were biting the guy in the face, maybe halfway through that long, horrible story about the coming dystopian future that was supposed to happen forty years ago.
        There were very few of the horrible dystopias in the twentieth century, which is why 1984 stuck out so much. The only other dystopia I remember from my youth was the nineteenth century tome The Time Machine.
        Fahrenheit 451 was one I returned to the library after the first chapter. I don’t remember why I disliked it, it’s widely praised.
        Then this century I started buying SF magazines again, around 2010, and discovered that almost all of the new stuff was dystopian. F&SF didn’t have cover to cover dystopias like the rest of them, so I bought a subscription. By the time it was over I didn’t renew, because it, too, had become almost total dystopia. Facebook ads advertising SF all proudly shill how dystopian they are.
        I think I realize why all of the dystopia: This horrible century. Despite how technology has already surpassed most twentieth century speculation, there are other things making anyone born after 1984 think we’re heading towards a dystopian future: The terrorist attack on 9/11 that triggered a war that lasted twenty years; to anyone born in this century it was a lifelong war. Then two years after the Afghan war started, a second, incredibly stupid war in Iraq was started. Under the oil men Bush and Cheney, gasoline prices went from $1.05 to $4.50 at its height here in Springfield, followed by a banking crisis that very nearly put the world in a depression that could have made the Great Depression look like a mild recession in comparison. You can’t get to work without gasoline yet, and the high cost of getting to work killed budgets and mortgages. Luckily, we then elected a man who historians call the tenth best president, and catastrophe was averted.
        To a teenager or young adult then, the world just kept getting worse, especially to racists, since this president was Black.
        Then came our fourth worst president in American history, again according to historians, a very lazy man who had never had to work in his life, a multimillionaire at the age of three. In his administration’s last year, his laziness and aversion to reality and truth cost hundreds of thousands of American lives to a pandemic. I saw him as the American Nero, fiddling while America burned with Covid fever and a breathing tube down its throat.
        And the world is heating up, with people who have made fortunes selling the very thing causing the heating denying that it’s even happening, caring not that the world will be a hellish place if we don’t stop burning their poisons. I saw the same thing with the tobacco industries. These people simply don’t care about anything but wealth and power!
        To someone under about forty, the world has become worse and worse every year of their lives. Of course the future is dystopian, according to their own witness.
        The thing is, there has seldom been a real dystopian future. The past has almost always been more dystopian than almost every epoch’s present. The one time in western history that really did have a dystopian future was the Roman empire, as when it fell, the dark ages overtook the western world for centuries, until the Renaissance. Of course, the Roman empire was dystopian, far worse than most dystopian science fiction. Beheadings, crucifixions, execution by animal attack, plagues…
        Some would say that America had a dystopian future during the “roaring twenties” before the depression, but according to Grandma McGrew, who was in her twenties in the twenties, it only roared for the rich, while working class people lived in what we would consider a dystopia. Multiply that by a hundred if you weren’t White.
        Even during my own lifetime, America and most of the world’s nations have become less and less dystopian, except this century. In the previous century we had horrible institutional racism, with laws that separated White people from everyone else. I can remember seeing the first Black person I’d ever seen, when I was five or six. I was completely ignorant about race, having not been brought up as a racist, and only Whites and Hispanics (who look White to me) were on television. I said “Wow, look at the tan on that guy!” My mother turned bright red and the Black man chuckled. Most Whites were raised to be racist. Black people didn’t gain full rights until 1964, and racism today (even institutional) is far less than it was then.
        But it still exists. Most of my friends are racist and don’t even realize it.
        Once, when I was still working and smoking cigarettes, I huddled in the doorway to try to stay out of the rain, talking with a well-dressed, college educated professional Black woman, who was gesturing with her cigarette and grousing about how store employees would always follow her around to make sure she wasn’t stealing anything.
        I said I had the opposite problem: “I can never find sales people when I need them.” That’s institutional racism. When I’m pulled over, I worry I might get a ticket. When a Black person is pulled over, particularly if he’s a young man, they have to worry that the cop might murder them.
        That’s institutional racism. It’s our present dystopia, but not nearly as dystopian as when I was a child. A century earlier was far more dystopian, Black people weren’t even considered human, and were bought, sold, and worked like dogs or horses, and treated no better than dogs and horses.
        Throughout all of human history until the middle of the nineteenth century, slavery was practiced world-wide. The ultimate dystopia, gone for a century and a half. I think racism a hundred years from now will be just an ugly relic of the past, like slavery is to us today.
        Part of the dystopia of my youth was the filthy, unhealthy environment. Rivers and streams caught fire. There was no air conditioning in cars then, and driving past Monsanto you had to roll the windows up in ninety five degree heat or the air would burn your lungs! Congress started the EPA in the seventies.
        Workplaces were hellish. Grandpa McGrew fell four stories down an elevator shaft because his employer, Purina, was too cheap to put doors on the elevators. Today we have OSHA.
        If you look at history, there have always been ups and downs, with more ups than downs. Every new discovery, every new invention lessens our present dystopia and has throughout history, but people seldom read history. Some people never read anything.
        I spoke of why youth believes in a dystopian future, but what about seniors? That’s something I can’t figure out. Maybe they have bad memories.
        Of course, as mentioned, we’re already seeing the climate changes brought on by global warming, and that will obviously create a dystopia, won’t it?
        Not necessarily. One of the stories in my Yesterday’s Tomorrows compilation is Kurt Vonnegut Jr’s 2 B R 0 2 B. Like was widely feared at the time it was written, the world in Vonnegut’s future is greatly overpopulated at forty million people, and by the year 2000 people are eating seaweed. But although it was as dark as anything he wrote, it wasn’t dystopian. It starts:
                Everything was perfectly swell.
                There were no prisons, no slums, no insane asylums, no cripples, no poverty, no wars.
                All diseases were conquered. So was old age.
                Death, barring accidents, was an adventure for volunteers.
        In my preface to that story, I remarked that few writers seemed to have noticed advances in farm equipment, other farming technologies, or advances in chemistry, biology, agronomy, and other sciences needed to improve yields. The reality of his future and our present is that today there is plenty of food for everyone, and the only reason people go hungry is the politics of greed.
        I see the same happening with global warming. Evil money-worshiping men in high towers running oil wells and coal mines from a safe (to them) distance have tried to keep global warming under wraps, but it’s no longer possible for them. Their industries will die, and like the turn of the twentieth century, new industries will spring up, this time bringing clean energy. Like with farming equipment, windmills and solar panels will improve, and new technologies will spring up, particularly as new advances in science occur. Climate change is happening. We caused it, we can and will fix it.
        I don’t write dystopian SF because I simply don’t believe the future will be anywhere as dystopian as the present, and especially not as bad as the horrible past.

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  • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday July 25 2021, @06:27PM (7 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday July 25 2021, @06:27PM (#1159803)

    For those who still believe the future will be better, try reading the long-term projections from the 70's and how they are still on track. https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2021/jul/25/gaya-herrington-mit-study-the-limits-to-growth [theguardian.com]

    There have always been limits to growth, and we're way beyond anything sustainable. Either we cut demand and population or natural forces will do it for us. And since nobody's going to vote for Kodos the Executioner …

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  • (Score: 2, Insightful) by khallow on Monday July 26 2021, @08:14AM (6 children)

    by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Monday July 26 2021, @08:14AM (#1159930) Journal
    Whose predictions? The Population Bomb people have been ridiculously wrong.

    There have always been limits to growth, and we're way beyond anything sustainable.

    That's why we have technology development. To make the unsustainable sustainable. I think it's telling that the societies which are supposedly the worse, the developed world societies, have negative population growth, the most resources, and are by far the most sustainable societies.

    It's time we learned what works rather than push religious narratives that have little to do with reality.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday July 26 2021, @02:22PM (5 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Monday July 26 2021, @02:22PM (#1159997)
      Obviously you didn't read the link. They mentioned that the population bomb people were wrong, for the same reason that resource exhaustion would only bite in the 2030s - as costs go up, it's worth investing to extract lower concentration resources - but there's a limit after which it's simply not profitable.

      The population bomb people weren't actually wrong - just missed the timing. There's already way too many people, so who cares about food supply if their existence pushes greenhouse gases way past the tipping point?

      We missed the original SARS pandemic by dumb luck. MERS is still bubbling along in parts of the world, and now we've got COV2. Something that we simply don't have the political will to contain (closed borders that are REALLY closed and mandatory vaccination) so the best we can hope for is it will burn itself out in 5 years or so like the 1890-1895 pandemic (now suspected to be bovine coronavirus that jumped to humans).

      So, are you ready for a pandemic every decade? Because that's what you get with too large a population.

      • (Score: 2) by mcgrew on Monday July 26 2021, @05:14PM

        by mcgrew (701) <publish@mcgrewbooks.com> on Monday July 26 2021, @05:14PM (#1160054) Homepage Journal

        We missed the original SARS pandemic by dumb luck.

        We missed the SARS pandemic because America had its tenth best president, according to historians. Other countries didn't fare so well. We didn't miss the Covid pandemic because of dumb luck, we (okay, the Electoral College) were dumb enough to elect a lazy billionaire who was a millionaire as a toddler and never had to work in his life, who historians call the fourth worst.

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        mcgrewbooks.com mcgrew.info nooze.org
      • (Score: 1, Insightful) by khallow on Tuesday July 27 2021, @05:24AM (3 children)

        by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday July 27 2021, @05:24AM (#1160288) Journal

        Obviously you didn't read the link. They mentioned that the population bomb people were wrong, for the same reason that resource exhaustion would only bite in the 2030s - as costs go up, it's worth investing to extract lower concentration resources - but there's a limit after which it's simply not profitable.

        *sigh*

        Research by Herrington, a rising star in efforts to place data analysis at the center of efforts to curb climate breakdown, affirmed the bleaker scenarios put forward in a landmark 1972 MIT study, The Limits to Growth, that presented various outcomes for what could happen when the growth of industrial civilization collided with finite resources.

        Herrington didn't affirm shit, but the same narratives keep getting pushed.

        They mentioned that the population bomb people were wrong, for the same reason that resource exhaustion would only bite in the 2030s - as costs go up, it's worth investing to extract lower concentration resources - but there's a limit after which it's simply not profitable.

        We're not even close to those limits nor are those limits the true ones. Cost isn't the only factor in resource extraction. Technology development also has lowered dramatically the level at which things become profitable as well as providing substitute goods. Sure, at some point we'll have problems. But I bet we can hit developed world status (year 2100 developed world status, not year 2020 developed world status) for the entire world long before that.

        You should be skeptical of predictions that make excuses instead of adapting to reality. Here, a theory was shown to be vastly wrong, and yet the narrative hasn't changed a bit.

        so who cares about food supply if their existence pushes greenhouse gases way past the tipping point?

        Where's the evidence for that tipping point or the implicit claim that it'll cause more harm than benefit?

        We missed the original SARS pandemic by dumb luck. MERS is still bubbling along in parts of the world, and now we've got COV2. Something that we simply don't have the political will to contain (closed borders that are REALLY closed and mandatory vaccination) so the best we can hope for is it will burn itself out in 5 years or so like the 1890-1895 pandemic (now suspected to be bovine coronavirus that jumped to humans).

        So what? And that was the best we could hope for, even if we were able to contain it like you wanted. Most of the world just isn't capable at present of those closed borders and mandatory vaccinations.

        So, are you ready for a pandemic every decade? Because that's what you get with too large a population.

        The more accurate answer is a pandemic every few decades.

        • (Score: 2) by mcgrew on Thursday July 29 2021, @02:20PM (2 children)

          by mcgrew (701) <publish@mcgrewbooks.com> on Thursday July 29 2021, @02:20PM (#1161006) Homepage Journal

          You must have made an enemy or something, this is the second insightful comment of yours someone modded "troll". It goes completely against the reasons for moderation. Maybe someone should look into it.

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          mcgrewbooks.com mcgrew.info nooze.org
          • (Score: 2, Informative) by khallow on Friday July 30 2021, @03:33AM (1 child)

            by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Friday July 30 2021, @03:33AM (#1161269) Journal
            It does appear so. My karma was down to 22 at one point, and it presently isn't far off that low. I thought at first, it was those aristarchus journals, which are pretty hard on my karma. But the negative mods just keep coming.

            If it goes on to the point where low karma gets in the way of my posting, I'll bring it up to the admins. Presently, it's not doing much and it allows me to explore counterstrategies.