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GOP Removes Page Praising Donald Trump's 'Historic' Peace Deal With Taliban
Quick, memory-hole the fact that getting out of Afghanistan was the best idea ever merely six months ago!
The Republican National Committee has removed a webpage from 2020 in which it praised Donald Trump for signing a "historic peace agreement with the Taliban."
David Weigel, of The Washington Post, was the first to spot that the page had been removed with the web address redirecting to a 404 error page featuring the quip: "It looks like you're as lost as Biden is."
The Guardian's congressional reporter Hugo Lowell later confirmed the webpage's removal after successfully tracking down the now-deleted page via The Wayback Machine digital archive.
Featured as part of a section titled "President Trump Is Bringing Peace In The Middle East," the page described how the former U.S. president had "continued to take the lead in peace talks."
The page also claims that "while President Trump has championed peace, Joe Biden has taken the lead in pushing for endless wars."
(Score: 4, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Monday August 16 2021, @05:04PM (3 children)
Where is the Touche' mod for the fine article?
(Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Monday August 16 2021, @09:06PM (2 children)
https://theconversation.com/the-world-must-not-look-away-as-the-taliban-sexually-enslaves-women-and-girls-165426 [theconversation.com]
Thanks for the meal, Joe!
(Score: -1, Flamebait) by Anonymous Coward on Monday August 16 2021, @09:20PM
Sniff the hair before grabbing them in the pussy, in honor of Joe.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 17 2021, @01:14AM
International intersectional feminists assemble! This sounds like a job for ISA/ROSA: Why Britney Spears’ Struggle Gets An Echo [rosainternational.org]... erm, let me try again.
ISA/Socialist Alternative (ISA in USA/DSA entryist): Afghan People Face Bitter Outcome of U.S. Occupation [socialistalternative.org]:
It looks like if we want breaking news, we'll need to hear it from the pro-rape incels.
CWI: Kabul falls: A devastating blow to the US and Western imperialism – Afghans’ suffering continues under Taliban [socialistworld.net]
ICFI/SEP/IWA-RFC: The fall of the Afghan puppet regime: A historic debacle for US imperialism [wsws.org] - US Supreme Court blocks part of New York eviction moratorium [wsws.org] - US epidemiologist Michael Osterholm warns of impending catastrophe as children are sent into unsafe schools [wsws.org]
(Score: 2, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Monday August 16 2021, @05:20PM (42 children)
Trump could have pulled out of Afghanistan half-a-dozen times or more, just the same way. Poof. Gone. Sayonara.
But he didn't.
Because as stupid as it is, a peace deal with nothing to back it up is really just a request for lubricant. Biden was apparently fresh out of fucks to give, so for the PR hot action he got the troops out, with the glorious results that we all see.
From a greater range, the war in Afghanistan was never really comprehensible to me. Or rather - as a mission to go in and make everyone attached to Bin Laden regret their life choices, it was defensible, but it was crystal clear from day 1 that the nature of Afghanistan was not going to change without multigenerational occupation and reshaping, which is not a thing that the USA does on the scale of, say, England reshaping Scotland. If you're not going to reshape a country, you know that it will flop back to its old ways when you withdraw, so this was pretty much inevitable. Afghanistan was a long-drawn miserable effort to nail a bunch of bastards, which it largely did, and any pretence that it was anything more was just another turd in the sewer of political lies.
But here we are. Lives flushed away by the thousand, infrastructure wrecked, and a bunch of pissed-off habitually violent mountain men move into a vacuum, same as before.
(Score: 2, Interesting) by fustakrakich on Monday August 16 2021, @05:31PM (3 children)
Why? I mean, yeah, if you want to just believe the tabloids, it doesn't make sense, but it was/is just an opium/pipeline/mineral war, regular colonial stuff. Nobody is just going to stand by and let them cut off over 90% of the global supply. Now we have synthetics, so the pressure is off a bit. Troops are being re-positioned, not brought home. Biden needs to squeeze all the PR he can by saying the war in "Afghanistan" is over
La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
(Score: 2) by DeathMonkey on Monday August 16 2021, @05:46PM (2 children)
Also known as having a standing military you both-sides-bozo.
(Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Monday August 16 2021, @06:01PM (1 child)
Outside our borders, as occupying forces? That's a no-no in the good book. Wouldn't expect you to understand though, point of view and all...
"both-sides"..
:-) Still trying to be the comic...
La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday August 16 2021, @06:22PM
C'mon, get with the program - White Man's Burden 2021! Time to recolonialize the world, For Their Own Good™. We can't let the Russians win!
(Score: 4, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Monday August 16 2021, @05:34PM (24 children)
Not sure how that is "entirely fair to Trump" and it sounds like a defense. Really doubt Biden did it for the PR since Trump had already set the plan in motion and everyone knew leaving Afghanistan was going to be a total shitshow. At least Biden, old as he is, had the fortitude to actually make a hard call. Still don't like the guy, but compared to the previous chair warmer he is awesome.
(Score: 5, Insightful) by DeathMonkey on Monday August 16 2021, @05:48PM (23 children)
Love him or hate him that's the damn truth of the matter right there.
(Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Monday August 16 2021, @06:42PM (7 children)
So, we can expect that to become general policy now? You do understand that American presence [cnn.com] will continue in Afghanistan for the indefinite future, right?
La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
(Score: 2) by DeathMonkey on Monday August 16 2021, @07:01PM (6 children)
WHAT Afghan forces?
(Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Monday August 16 2021, @07:12PM
Don't ask me, I'm just the messenger. It was a direct quote from the link, some big shot general named McKenzie...
La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
(Score: 2, Interesting) by khallow on Tuesday August 17 2021, @04:15AM (4 children)
When the US invaded, they had natural allies in the northern part of the country who were fighting with the Taliban in the first place. Those people didn't go away. They might not get a lot of support from the US or Russia, but it probably wouldn't take much to keep the northern part of Afghanistan out of the hands of the Taliban. Basically, a reset to the year 2000 with a different mix of warlords. We'll see if that happens.
(Score: 2) by FatPhil on Tuesday August 17 2021, @02:22PM
Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people; the smallest discuss themselves
(Score: 2) by DeathMonkey on Tuesday August 17 2021, @03:33PM (2 children)
They already lost, dude. [apnews.com]
(Score: 2, Interesting) by khallow on Tuesday August 17 2021, @10:11PM (1 child)
And it looks like they took all that territory bolstered by POWs released in September 2020 when Trump was in charge.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 18 2021, @08:35AM
Mazar-e-Sharif is such a weird name to give to your rubber doll. Did you get an exotic Arabic one to make your Asian doll jealous? Fruitless is the right word to describe fucking rubber dolls though. POW! POW! POW! Does having two dolls make you feel in charge, like Trump was in September of 2020? Grab-em by the rubber pussy, am I right?
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday August 16 2021, @06:42PM (14 children)
Sure. Groovy. Totally tubular.
But at that point, let's break with the past of "nation-building" nonsense (thanks, Bush), and just come out and say it: "Any suckers that ever believed that the USA was going to make Afghanistan better for anybody can come to the front of the class to collect their dunce caps."
We always knew (OK, anybody with a knowledge of history and the ability to apply it practically knew, so at least, what, 0.01% of the population knew) that the USA wasn't going to stick around long enough to change the afghan way of doing things, we always knew that the most violent head-knockers in town would come out on top the same way that they always do, which means that the moment that the USA pulled chocks it would be back to an Afghanistan that wouldn't have looked too unfamiliar to the old British Raj officers on the Khyber Pass. All the hand-wringers who are now talking about women's rights and atrocities and so on in Afghanistan right now are the ones who are, whether they admit it or not, looking for the USA to answer Kipling's call to take up the white man's burden and civilise the benighted natives.
Let's just be plain about it: everyone who just got butt-fucked and then shot in Afghanistan, and everyone who is about to be? We're awfully sorry that Afghanistan sucks goat balls, but the US of A doesn't care, and doesn't want to change things, and doesn't want to hang out there any more, suck it up. That's a message from the White House, to you. Try not to clench up while getting buttfucked, it'll hurt less.
(Score: 2) by DeathMonkey on Monday August 16 2021, @07:11PM (8 children)
Doesn't help that US Commanders have been lying about our prospects just like goddamn Vietnam for the past decade... [washingtonpost.com]
(Score: 1, Offtopic) by Runaway1956 on Tuesday August 17 2021, @03:57AM (7 children)
What I'd like to know is, WTF believed Caldwell? Aghanistan is tribal. Tribals aren't national. Tribal and national are almost antithetical. See what happens to Iraq when we finally pull out. It's going to be
SaigonKabul all over again.Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 17 2021, @04:37AM (4 children)
Incidentally, this explains Rwanda, and Congo (DRC), and Nigeria, and Zimbabwe, and Sudan (north and south), and the current mess around northern Ethiopia/Eritrea, and while we're at it, a good chunk of Yemen too, right?
This is the kind of thing that can only change with a long term, cross-generational heavy hand of rewriting all the rules. Uncle Sam doesn't do that, and doesn't want to start. This means that the reversion was inevitable. It would have made more sense to split Afghanistan into independent countries, give them all official US government backing for their rinky-dink governments, and then maintain a pax americana among them. That way when the Pathan of the Southern Mountain wanted to vent their spleen on the Tajik of the Northern Plains, there'd be localised groups who'd be happy to have a few US bases to help protect them from the tender mercies of their local enemies.
But that would have been evil, wouldn't it?
(Score: 2, Insightful) by Runaway1956 on Tuesday August 17 2021, @04:51AM
Yes, it would have been evil, since you ask. Of course, it would have been no more evil than the economic oligarchy we have today. Regardless your opinion of Iran or Cuba or any other nation, it's just wrong that we can squeeze them economically the way we do. Moreso when you consider that it's the villagers out in the boondocks who suffer, and never the assholes in the capitols.
Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 17 2021, @05:32AM
Not to mention, Arkansas. Hatfields, McCoys, and Runaways.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 17 2021, @10:21AM (1 child)
No, just no. You don't get to blame colonialism on it's victims from a safe distance. WE did that to them.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 17 2021, @02:26PM
OK, you are on a different planet here. Tribalism long predates colonial oppression, and in fact often survived and outlasted it. Some of the best-publicised (and most violent) cases of inter-tribal genocide we barely even know about because some enterprising missionaries were around to record what they saw, such as the excesses of Shaka. Afghanistan, while it was occupied, wasn't functionally colonised , western-style, since after the Mongol-inspired regimes (and even those had, at best a tenuous hold).
So take your "no, just no" crap and take it up with history. See how far that gets you.
(Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Tuesday August 17 2021, @06:24PM (1 child)
Nationalism is just bourgeois, high fashion (urban.. urbane?) tribalism.
La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
(Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Wednesday August 18 2021, @02:43AM
Whatever you say. Nations have options that tribes do not. Almost any semi-functional nation is militarily superior to almost any tribe. The exceptions to the rule would involve exceptionally well organized tribes, and/or extremely shitty national governments. Education, research, science and development will almost always do better in a nation, than in a tribe. Social safety nets are likely to be better within a tribe, so long as some emergency doesn't exhaust resources - in which case you'd wish you were in a nation. Again, even semi-functional nations have more resources available than almost any tribe.
Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
(Score: 5, Insightful) by Magic Oddball on Monday August 16 2021, @09:26PM (4 children)
We definitely made it a hell of a lot better for women & girls, considering they hadn't been allowed to attend schools or work outside the home, and by the time we left, it was common for girls to attend at least through the 6th grade (with many going all the way through university), women were employed in all sectors (including as members of parliament), and the number of trained midwives increased from approx. 450 to 15,000 — enough to cut maternal mortality in half. Or do they not count for some reason?
Television, music & dancing had been banned under the Taliban (with whippings or worse if one was caught), but were everyday things when we left. Pretty sure boys & young men had enjoyed that change.
As corrupt as it was, Afghanistan had also gained a democracy and judicial system. There is no democracy or judicial system under the Taliban; instead, they perform summary executions, whippings, and stone people to death.
This series of interviews with young Afghans [rferl.org] underscores that: we did make a difference... Then we threw them under the bus by deciding to leave by a set date rather than by enforcing conditions (as Biden himself had stated we would last year), and by not utterly destroying the Taliban as we should have in the first fucking place.
(Score: 2, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Monday August 16 2021, @09:52PM
Now go interview all the young Afghans who fight and ask why they do it. I'm going to bet we didn't make /their/ lives better
(Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Monday August 16 2021, @11:04PM
Uh huh... [arizona.edu]
La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
(Score: 2) by FatPhil on Tuesday August 17 2021, @02:43PM
Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people; the smallest discuss themselves
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 17 2021, @02:45PM
A temporary respite at best. It didn't change Afghanistan, it just suspended business as usual for a decade or two. If anything, it just made the backlash worse.
(Score: 2) by DeathMonkey on Monday August 16 2021, @05:42PM (8 children)
So the peace deal Trump signed with the Taliban to withdraw all the US troops was just a lie then?
And of course, lying about something like that is also totally fine?
(Score: 0, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Monday August 16 2021, @08:06PM (7 children)
I don't know whether Trump meant it, liked it, or wrote it with his dick.
I do know that while Trump was around, the peace deal was backed by cranky grunts with heavy artillery and airstrikes on tap. Now it's not, and the Taliban have decided that it's time to get a little action in their lives. We can discuss whether that was good, or smart, or wise, or humanitarian, or a GOP plan or a Dem plan, or whether it was just a way of saving some money on troop deployments, but the facts on the ground are determined by whoever's the baddest ass with the fewest fucks to give, and that is no longer Uncle Sam.
(Score: 2) by DeathMonkey on Monday August 16 2021, @09:12PM (6 children)
So Trump's plan to get the troops out worked because he kept the troops there. Got it!
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 17 2021, @01:14AM
That isn't what the GPP said. Read again.
Read better.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 17 2021, @04:00AM
That Trump Disorder Syndrome is still eating your ass out, isn't it?
(Score: 2) by FatPhil on Tuesday August 17 2021, @02:44PM (3 children)
Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people; the smallest discuss themselves
(Score: 2) by DeathMonkey on Tuesday August 17 2021, @03:31PM (2 children)
I think the guy who actually GOT THE TROOPS OUT is the non-bad-actor.
(Score: 2, Troll) by FatPhil on Tuesday August 17 2021, @04:10PM
Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people; the smallest discuss themselves
(Score: 2) by FatPhil on Thursday August 19 2021, @08:37PM
Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people; the smallest discuss themselves
(Score: 5, Informative) by DeathMonkey on Monday August 16 2021, @06:05PM (2 children)
Donald Trump, April 18, 2021
(Score: 0, Redundant) by Anonymous Coward on Monday August 16 2021, @09:01PM (1 child)
Joe Biden, July 8, 2021
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=39ZqGI7ME1M [youtube.com]
(Score: 2) by Magic Oddball on Monday August 16 2021, @09:35PM
To add to that, Biden in a Feb. 2020 interview after the Doha Agreement for a gradual exit that was conditional on the Taliban not violently taking over:
“I think we should only have troops there to make sure that it's impossible for the Taliban and for Isis or al-Qaeda to re-establish a foothold there.”
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 17 2021, @12:50AM
It seemed pretty obvious. The taliban had got pretty good at shutting down opium production. The CIA couldn't HAVE that, since it's their biggest black-op funding source. A year later, things were looking better, and two years later production was back to normal.
(Score: 5, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Monday August 16 2021, @05:29PM (10 children)
Revising history? check
Fascist violence? check
Party loyalty or else? check
Defending criminals? check
"Six of the fascism figures depicted in the novel include: Irrationalism, nationalism, state, the leader principle, rascism and anticommunism"
https://core.ac.uk/display/234702483 [core.ac.uk]
Irrationalism? Easy to find staggering hypocrisy, we're seeing it right now as people who were applauding Trump's plan to get us out of Afghanistan are now criticizing Biden for finishing.
Nationalism? Why you hate murrica? why you kneeling brah? Yeah, GOP is super nationalist except for hating democrats.
State? Ok, gotta say I'm not totally clear what "state" means in regards to fascism but sounds like it would be similar to nationalism?
The leader principle? Trump was called a god emperor (wtf even with that label) and some of his fans literally wanted him to become a dictator.
Racism? Haha, we've still got conservatives trying to deny this.
Anticommunism? Everything they don't like is "socialism" because apparently communism lost a bit of its scare power, even though it is much more accurately the thing Republicans don't like. Trump said he loves the uneducated, so there's that.
TL:DR? Republicans have gone full fascists, no more pretense, and they attempted to overthrow a democratically elected government. Of course idiots like to defend it by saying "oooh yeah a bunch of tourists" as if other people are as gullible as they are. Reality is a bitch eh?
(Score: 5, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Monday August 16 2021, @05:38PM (5 children)
Instantly modded down for pointing out the obvious. Fascists really hate it when you point out their flaws. Users on this very site were using Trump's plan to pull out as evidence of how awesome he is and how he is against "forever wars" but suddenly Biden actually does something and now what they liked is bad?
How can any conservative see what Republicans are doing, the absolute two faced liars they are, and still support them? Don't like Dems, go 3rd party! Or is that only for liberals so that the GOP can maintain their minority power a little longer?
(Score: 4, Insightful) by DannyB on Monday August 16 2021, @05:43PM
I seem to remember recently reading an insightful journal entry [soylentnews.org] on SN about how two faced and hypocritical Republicans are.
Republicans never seen think ahead to consider what if the shoe were on the other foot?
That would be my concise summary of one of the major points that article raises.
The Electoral College voting is an affirmative action program for low populated states.
(Score: 5, Insightful) by Azuma Hazuki on Monday August 16 2021, @07:00PM (1 child)
Tribal thinking. They're not able to deal with reality outside of a small group of like-"minded" people.
I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
(Score: 2, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Monday August 16 2021, @07:37PM
Reminds me of the excuses to not support universal healthcare. At the time I thought "it wouldn't work in such a non-homogenous country" was just a candy-ass excuse. Now? Looking more like good ol' conservative racism. "They" won't work enough so "we" won't support anything that helps "them." With the tribal thinking the decent humans go along with it, not imagining that their friends and neighbors could actually be racist dirtbags.
(Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 17 2021, @04:05AM (1 child)
Have you LISTENED to Biden? Even with Saigon as an example, he had no idea how to GTFU. We left allies on the runway to be killed when our last aircraft departed. We left military hardware for the Taliban to appropriate. There should have been something - something - ohhh - I don't know what exactly - maybe a PLAN?!?!?!
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 18 2021, @04:27AM
Gee, why wasn't there already a plan in place from the last administration? I guess they burned it when Biden won the election because they hate their country more than they hate democrats? C U R I O U S!
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday August 16 2021, @06:54PM (2 children)
Very literary. Points for the references.
Not a technically correct definition of fascism, so 0 points for useful description.
Style does not trump substance.
(Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Monday August 16 2021, @07:17PM (1 child)
Sounds correct enough. Look a shitload like what Nazi Germany and modern-day China are doing. What's the problem?
I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
(Score: 2, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Monday August 16 2021, @07:43PM
Just their attempt to deflect the obvious.
Republicans are in crisis, they knew they were lying for years but it was ok cause libruhl tears. With the pandemic reality began to override their lies. Can't say "well COVID didn't really mean that and besides freez mah peach" like they do for all the lies and half truths that ooze out of the GOP. They didn't realize they were ON the line, so they decided that getting away with their shitty behavior meant they could ramp it up some more and just go full fascists and seize power. Now even some Republicans are seeing through the massive amount of bullshit and how their leaders literally don't care if they die, though the party loyalty is still gripping most of them. Hopefully over the next few years some of them come to their senses and reject the fascists.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday August 16 2021, @09:12PM
I assume that state probably refers to the totalitarian aspect of fascism. We see plenty of elements of this in the GOP. Look at the massive effort to overturn a free and fair election, then to discredit it. Look at the attacks on any media that's critical of the right. Look at the efforts to censor critical race theory. The right does support indoctrination, such as teaching students that the US is the greatest nation, and
In some areas, the comparison is a bit more complex. Historically, fascism has included a state-controlled economy, which doesn't really fit with the somewhat laissez faire approach of many in the GOP. But Nazi Germany was vehemently opposed to social welfare systems, which is an accurate comparison with the modern GOP. Nazis opposed welfare programs as supporting people who are inferior, and there are definitely elements of this in the GOP. That said, the GOP is happy to abandon their laissez faire economic principles when it suits their purposes, such as opposing the speech of corporations that oppose them.
I also want to point out that Nazi Germany favored very puritanical ideas about morality, ideas that are hardly out of place within the religious right. Right now, the US is a secular state, but there's been a movement for a long time to claim that the US is a Christian nation and was founded as such. The goal, of course, is to establish theocracy in the US. The principles of said theocracy would be very similar to the moral ideas of Nazi Germany.
(Score: 3, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Monday August 16 2021, @05:54PM (2 children)
https://www.businessinsider.com/uk-defense-minister-blames-trump-afghanistan-taliban-crisis-2021-8 [businessinsider.com]
So that is why the GOP is attacking Biden so much. Their own policy turned to shit and they want Biden to take the PR hit. What cowards.
(Score: 4, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Monday August 16 2021, @07:45PM (1 child)
To the downmodder I hope you realize that the comment is objective fact. Trump planned it = good thing, Biden finished doing it = bad thing. All you do is illustrate your willingness to ignore reality in favor of party politics, you know, that thing you accuse liberals of constantly doing?
(Score: 2) by FatPhil on Tuesday August 17 2021, @03:15PM
Obama planned it. Trump formalised it. Biden delivered it.
Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people; the smallest discuss themselves
(Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Monday August 16 2021, @07:53PM (2 children)
Massive cope from DNCMonkey and friends. What will Biden have to say about it?
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday August 16 2021, @08:35PM
It was an ok speech, given the circumstances. He did throw that Vice President Boe Jiden guy under the bus though.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday August 16 2021, @11:08PM
Glad to see you morons triggered by reality. Each morning do you ask yourself "how can I be worse than yesterday?" Cuz I sure hope you didn't get this bad on accident! Imagine if you put your minds to it... you could gas millions!
(Score: 5, Insightful) by DannyB on Monday August 16 2021, @09:16PM (5 children)
Consider all the things the GOP has in common with the Taliban.
A peace deal with the Taliban would seem the first step if the GOP were to believe they should fight on the same side.
No peace deal needed with Afghan government. Withdraw. Let Taliban take over and create a GOP utopia.
To be totally fair to Trump, this seems in stark contrast to his ambition to buy Greenland and create a Socialist utopia.
The Electoral College voting is an affirmative action program for low populated states.
(Score: 1, Redundant) by Magic Oddball on Monday August 16 2021, @09:59PM (1 child)
Yeah, that's why there are so many Republican women in all levels of government, they're totally committed to taking power away from themselves. *rolls eyes*
Seriously, that comparison is about on par with "liberals are all communist extremists who want to take everything away from you and give it to people who are too lazy to do anything" type rhetoric, and it erodes the credibility of anyone who engages in it.
(Score: 3, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Monday August 16 2021, @11:32PM
Never hear of hypocrites or "ends justify the means?" Conservative social media is fully of people advocating against things that they themselves do. There are a number of female religious right personalities that actively support taking their own rights away in the name of carrying out God's word. A number loudly advocate for moving things back so far as to take away women's right to vote and work and the only reason others don't is that they know that in our modern society such things make them look like the backwards reactionaries they are. And don't forget that people like to see themselves as "special" and above the rules, such as advocating for the family and against abortion while paying for your mistress to get one. Or advocating for rules knowing only the others will follow them since you are one of the important ones or what they don't know won't hurt.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 17 2021, @04:07AM (1 child)
Focus, Danny. This is all about how Biden botched the withdrawal.
(Score: 2) by DannyB on Tuesday August 17 2021, @01:46PM
Maybe Biden could have handled it better. I don't know. I highly doubt Trump could have done any better.
In hindsight, I think withdrawal would have gone this badly no matter who threw the switch.
Still, I'll give you that, Biden could possibly have done better than this.
The Electoral College voting is an affirmative action program for low populated states.
(Score: 1, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 17 2021, @04:39AM
If you think about it, this whole thing is Trump's fault even beyond the peace deal. I keep hearing how he was really the shadow president and how he is the real president now that it is the 17th of August. /s
(Score: 2, Interesting) by khallow on Tuesday August 17 2021, @12:52AM (7 children)
At least, it appears unlikely that the Taliban will provoke a US reinvasion any time soon. So hopefully that bit of recent ISIS history won't repeat itself. We'll see. Of course, a nuclear-powered Pakistan is next door so the possibilities can get quite exciting, if what happens in Afghanistan replays over there.
(Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 17 2021, @01:54AM (6 children)
And the rest of us find it interesting how your first take is that anyone is blaming Trump! I re-read the article just to be sure and I see mentions of Trump's actions but no accusations of blame. However I did find this gem
Lovely how you try and use the GOP's bullshit Antifa excuse for 1/6 to make your point, so you understand now that the GOP was responsible for the insurrection?
Blame is being cast by Republicans because they are desperate to make Biden look bad now that all their previous criticisms have fallen flat.
Leave the cult my boy, it is poisoning your mind.
(Score: 1) by khallow on Tuesday August 17 2021, @02:36AM (5 children)
Followed by
Gives me that impression.
All I have to be is accurate. And yes, I chose that excuse precisely because you haven't bought into it and thus, we have a fairly neutral comparison to the present mess. This blame redirecting is standard political fare.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 17 2021, @02:48AM (4 children)
Once you achieve accuracy we can talk, good goal son.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 17 2021, @05:35AM (3 children)
khallow is coming along. Soon he will be able to distinguish fact from fiction. I hold the greatest hope for his future development, once he outgrows the adolescent libertarian stage.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 17 2021, @03:40PM (2 children)
I see here: khallow makes fairly neutrally stated, cogently supported points, and then two follow-up posts from ACs desperately fap-fapping their way past the graveyard.
I know who has the higher credibility, and it isn't the pole-strokers.
(Score: 1, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 17 2021, @05:32PM
Found the sexually repressed dunce!
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 18 2021, @08:52AM
And I see here: khallow
Replying to yourself. Also using terms like pole-stroker, because 3/4 of your day revolves around porn and playing with your dick like an ugly teenager.