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posted by martyb on Tuesday August 24 2021, @11:03AM   Printer-friendly

https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2021/08/covid-19-vaccine-cards-why-so-big/619707/

This spring, as New York City warmed up and the local vaccination rate surged, I met my best friend for our first restaurant meal together in months. As soon as we sat down, she began rifling through her purse. "I have something for you," she told me. From her bag came a rectangle of clear, thick, double-layered plastic—the kind of display pocket that often dangles at the end of a lanyard. My friend had swiped a handful from her office's supply closet. "It's for your vaccine card," she explained. But I already knew.

When I got my first shot, in late February, I sat in the mandatory waiting area, holding my new card in one hand and my wallet in the other, trying to understand why the two objects weren't compatible. I contemplated where I should put this brand-new golden ticket, ultimately sliding the thin piece of too-large card stock into an envelope I found in my tote. I'm going to either lose this or destroy it, I thought to myself.

Indeed, I lost it—at least for a little while. Despite dutifully sliding the card into its new protective pocket after lunch with my friend, I eventually found myself tearing my apartment apart searching for it, for exactly the reasons I had feared: It was the wrong size for the one place where most people keep all their important everyday documents, and of too nebulous a purpose to sit safely in a drawer with my birth certificate and passport. Could it unlock some sort of privileges at the airport? Were restaurants going to check it? Did I need to take it to medical appointments? My card had gotten shuffled into a sandwich baggie filled with extra masks, not to be rediscovered for six weeks.

With all due respect to our country's overworked and undersupported public-health apparatus: This is dumb. The card is dumb, and it's difficult to imagine a series of intentional decisions that could have reasonably led to it as the consensus best pick. Its strangeness had been a bit less important in the past seven months, when evidence of immunity was rarely necessary to do things within America. Now, as Delta-variant cases surge and more municipalities and private businesses begin to require proof of vaccination to patronize places such as restaurants and gyms, the rubber has met the road on this flimsy de facto verification apparatus. It's not the highest-stakes question of this stage of the pandemic, but it's one that's become quite common: How did we end up with these cards?

What size are the COVID-19 vaccine ID cards in other (non-USA) countries?


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  • (Score: 2) by DannyB on Tuesday August 24 2021, @01:50PM (10 children)

    by DannyB (5839) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday August 24 2021, @01:50PM (#1170312) Journal

    I think HIPPA is just an excuse.

    The real reason we don't have secure vaccination cards in the US is for the express porpoise of allowing people to make fake cards.

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  • (Score: 0, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 24 2021, @01:58PM (9 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 24 2021, @01:58PM (#1170314)

    There's also the problem of requiring everyone to have a vaccine card, but to also argue that it's unfair and impossible to require everyone to have a Voter ID card.

    We can't do anything that would make it more difficult for the Dems to cheat on elections.

    • (Score: 2) by DannyB on Tuesday August 24 2021, @02:15PM (7 children)

      by DannyB (5839) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday August 24 2021, @02:15PM (#1170321) Journal

      I have a voter card. It seems to serve no porpoise. When I go to the polling place, what they actually want is ID like a driver license or passport. All the voter card means is that I am already on the voting rolls. They check my ID and confirm that (1) I am on the rolls, and (2) I am at the right place (so I can't vote at multiple places), and (3) that I have not already voted at this location today.

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      • (Score: 0, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 24 2021, @02:37PM (4 children)

        by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 24 2021, @02:37PM (#1170332)

        I've lived in 5 States since I've been old enough to vote. Four of those States never removed me from the registered voter rolls after I moved out of the State.

        In those States where they sent out ballots to every registered voter, someone got the ballot intended for me, and for all I know someone voted those ballots. And, although it's easy to find out that I was still a registered voter in those other States (at least it was before election integrity became a big issue), I have not found any way to see whether someone voted using my registrations in those States.

        The only reason to keep non-eligible voters on the voter rolls (in some of my examples, for decades) is to make it easier to insert fake ballots into the election without being caught.

        • (Score: 1, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 24 2021, @04:53PM (3 children)

          by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 24 2021, @04:53PM (#1170384)

          Yes that's the only reason - to commit a complex fraud involving unknown people that never gets found out. For decades, no less.

          • (Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 24 2021, @08:00PM (2 children)

            by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 24 2021, @08:00PM (#1170490)

            My family lived in Chicago for several generations. The Democrat Machine there has been cheating for at least 80 years. Back in the 1940s, while my grandfather was voting, a poll worker mentioned that his brother (my great-uncle) had just been in to vote. My grandfather pointed out to him that his brother had died years earlier. The poll worker just passed his paperwork to another poll worker and walked away.

            And, the reason he didn't make a stink about it was because he didn't want the street in front of his house torn up and left unpassable for months or years (which has happened to others who made trouble).

            People who never lived in Chicago think the stories about "graveyard voters" are just jokes. They aren't.

            • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 24 2021, @10:24PM

              by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 24 2021, @10:24PM (#1170536)

              Yet all investigations turn up little from dems and frequent cheating by reps. Either we liberals truly are that much smarter or your anecdotes are stupid. Which is it? While you're thinking about stuff why not share your thoughts on Trump's criminal activities?

            • (Score: 1, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 25 2021, @12:55AM

              by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 25 2021, @12:55AM (#1170597)

              My uncle swore blind that he saw a ghost vote. Extrapolate that by all uncles and you've got MASSIVE voter fraud.

      • (Score: 0, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 24 2021, @02:44PM (1 child)

        by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 24 2021, @02:44PM (#1170335)

        Note that in Democrat-controlled areas, they are fighting tooth and nail against any proof of eligibility before someone casts a vote. I'f you're being required to show your Driver's License or Passport to vote, you probably live in a Republican area.

        None of the safeguards you mention work in a mail-in voting situation (which the Democrats have been pushing hard). Here's an example of such fraud:

        https://presscalifornia.com/2021/08/19/video-gavin-groupies-caught-swiping-recall-ballots-from-mailbox/ [presscalifornia.com]

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 24 2021, @04:56PM

          by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 24 2021, @04:56PM (#1170386)

          Moar voters is betterer. Or less, I forget which way it is.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 25 2021, @12:26AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 25 2021, @12:26AM (#1170588)

      They gave me my card when I got vaccinated. Do they hand out voter ID when you vote?