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Journal by fustakrakich

Consider it dead, along with voting/medical rights, despite Pelosi's theatrical drama

Using a legislative maneuver called reconciliation, the budget resolution is protected from being filibustered in the Senate, allowing a simple majority to approve the legislation in each chamber.

With the evenly divided Senate, Manchin is a needed vote for Democrats. They can pass the budget bill with 50 votes, meaning all Democratic-voting senators need to vote "aye" because no Republicans are expected to support the massive legislation.

But, Manchin wrote Thursday, "I, for one, won’t support a $3.5 trillion bill, or anywhere near that level of additional spending, without greater clarity about why Congress chooses to ignore the serious effects inflation and debt have on existing government programs."

Wall Street bailouts (roughly 3.5 trillion every two and a half years)? No problem

Probably just as good, we're not supposed to have that much pork in our diets anyway.

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  • (Score: 5, Insightful) by aristarchus on Friday September 03 2021, @03:37AM (16 children)

    by aristarchus (2645) on Friday September 03 2021, @03:37AM (#1173958) Journal

    I, to the contrary, support a 25% increase in all spending, the expansion of Medicare, and the abolishing of Capitalism subsidies.

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  • (Score: 1) by khallow on Friday September 03 2021, @04:06AM (15 children)

    by khallow (3766) on Friday September 03 2021, @04:06AM (#1173967) Journal
    Are you good for it?
    • (Score: 3, Insightful) by DeathMonkey on Friday September 03 2021, @03:14PM (6 children)

      by DeathMonkey (1380) on Friday September 03 2021, @03:14PM (#1174074) Journal

      Yes.

      And the blue states will cover the vast majority of it, of course.

      So don't worry, red states can still be welfare queen leeches and live off our taxes so what's the problem?

      • (Score: 1) by khallow on Friday September 03 2021, @05:53PM (5 children)

        by khallow (3766) on Friday September 03 2021, @05:53PM (#1174148) Journal
        For starters, we can spend blue state money in better ways.
        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday September 03 2021, @07:34PM

          by Anonymous Coward on Friday September 03 2021, @07:34PM (#1174200)

          I don't believe it anyway. They're not covering the budget right now. Federal expenditure is in no way balanced.

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 04 2021, @09:10AM (3 children)

          by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 04 2021, @09:10AM (#1174406)

          Thanks for showing your complete lack of integrity and basic morality. Top kek!

          • (Score: 1) by khallow on Sunday September 05 2021, @04:16AM (2 children)

            by khallow (3766) on Sunday September 05 2021, @04:16AM (#1174623) Journal
            Do you have said integrity and basic morality, AC?
            • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday September 07 2021, @06:59PM (1 child)

              by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday September 07 2021, @06:59PM (#1175450)

              Yes, non-republicans have a greater than .05% chance of having intact morality and integrity. Gotta love you going on the attack instead of addressing the sociopathic and hypicritical rey saying red states would spend blue state money better. It was always my dream to have my taxes line the pockets of businesses instead of funding government services for people that actually need help.

              How's mammon these days?

              • (Score: 1) by khallow on Monday September 13 2021, @03:02AM

                by khallow (3766) on Monday September 13 2021, @03:02AM (#1177355) Journal

                It was always my dream to have my taxes line the pockets of businesses instead of funding government services for people that actually need help.

                Good thing for you then because that's what you have. My take is that the point of those "government services" is to buy your vote for "lining the pockets of business". It's a bribe for the corrupt status quo.

                How's mammon these days?

                Your altar needs a little polishing.

    • (Score: 2) by aristarchus on Friday September 03 2021, @10:20PM (7 children)

      by aristarchus (2645) on Friday September 03 2021, @10:20PM (#1174282) Journal

      Shut up, khallow! You are thinking like a businessperson, not an economist. Money is not real, it is merely a medium of exchange. We do not "run out of it" as a society. Why are libertarians all such tightwads?

      • (Score: 1) by khallow on Saturday September 04 2021, @12:30AM (6 children)

        by khallow (3766) on Saturday September 04 2021, @12:30AM (#1174315) Journal

        Money is not real, it is merely a medium of exchange.

        Ok, so now we're talking more than money, we're talking exchanges. So what is being exchanged that matters to you?

        Why are libertarians all such tightwads?

        Why wouldn't we be?

        • (Score: 2) by aristarchus on Saturday September 04 2021, @06:28AM (5 children)

          by aristarchus (2645) on Saturday September 04 2021, @06:28AM (#1174395) Journal

          Because, selfish, egoistic pricks with no social skills? Ayn Rand imitators? What is exchanged is Capital, the resources of a society. If you do not understand that, you do not remotely comprehend economics as a science. Sorry, khallow, but you are an idiot.

          • (Score: 1) by khallow on Saturday September 04 2021, @10:37AM (4 children)

            by khallow (3766) on Saturday September 04 2021, @10:37AM (#1174417) Journal
            Or because being generous with other peoples' money is a pretty ugly thing.
            • (Score: 3, Touché) by aristarchus on Saturday September 04 2021, @10:54AM (3 children)

              by aristarchus (2645) on Saturday September 04 2021, @10:54AM (#1174421) Journal

              Actually not, especially since they stole it from the workers in the first place.

              • (Score: 1) by khallow on Saturday September 04 2021, @12:49PM (2 children)

                by khallow (3766) on Saturday September 04 2021, @12:49PM (#1174441) Journal

                Actually not, especially since they stole it from the workers in the first place.

                And those workers "stole" it from somebody else, and so on. At some point, if you want a civilized society, you have to curb the theft. This is a great place to curb that theft. It's all centralized in one place. Just flip that switch to "less bad".

                • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday September 07 2021, @07:01PM (1 child)

                  by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday September 07 2021, @07:01PM (#1175452)

                  Love when you do a self-own thinking it was a valid point.