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President Joe will not pass the 3.5 tril plan

Journal by fustakrakich

Consider it dead, along with voting/medical rights, despite Pelosi's theatrical drama

Using a legislative maneuver called reconciliation, the budget resolution is protected from being filibustered in the Senate, allowing a simple majority to approve the legislation in each chamber.

With the evenly divided Senate, Manchin is a needed vote for Democrats. They can pass the budget bill with 50 votes, meaning all Democratic-voting senators need to vote "aye" because no Republicans are expected to support the massive legislation.

But, Manchin wrote Thursday, "I, for one, won’t support a $3.5 trillion bill, or anywhere near that level of additional spending, without greater clarity about why Congress chooses to ignore the serious effects inflation and debt have on existing government programs."

Wall Street bailouts (roughly 3.5 trillion every two and a half years)? No problem

Probably just as good, we're not supposed to have that much pork in our diets anyway.

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  • (Score: 1) by khallow on Friday September 03 2021, @04:14AM (13 children)

    by khallow (3766) on Friday September 03 2021, @04:14AM (#1173970) Journal
    I'd start with the bailouts to old people. 25% cut to Social Security, which was already suggested.

    Can't make any cuts in a system that depends on usury, unless it's the usury that you're cutting

    Indeed. I'm fighting [soylentnews.org] usury too!

  • (Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Friday September 03 2021, @04:16AM (8 children)

    by fustakrakich (6150) on Friday September 03 2021, @04:16AM (#1173971) Journal

    I'd start with the bailouts to old people.

    :-) Of course you would! We would expect nothing less from a banker's boy!

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    • (Score: 1) by khallow on Friday September 03 2021, @04:37AM (7 children)

      by khallow (3766) on Friday September 03 2021, @04:37AM (#1173979) Journal
      Funny how you keep up with the insults, but you aren't actually disagreeing!

      • (Score: 2, Insightful) by fustakrakich on Friday September 03 2021, @04:45PM (6 children)

        by fustakrakich (6150) on Friday September 03 2021, @04:45PM (#1174106) Journal

        It's not an insult. You speak as a mouthpiece for the financial industry. I'll assume you profit from it. Where's the insult? And of course I disagree. You disrespect old people

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        La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..

        • (Score: 3, Funny) by aristarchus on Friday September 03 2021, @10:29PM

          by aristarchus (2645) on Friday September 03 2021, @10:29PM (#1174288) Journal

          It's not an insult. You speak as a mouthpiece for the financial industry.

          The truth is far, far worse. khallow is not a spokeman for anything, he just worships Mammon, and adores richies. He is, in fact, a lickspittle, a scallywag and pollywog, a synchophant, a gamma male, a knave and a poltroon. He most resembles David Spade's character in "Coneheads, The Movie".

        • (Score: 1) by khallow on Saturday September 04 2021, @02:48AM (4 children)

          by khallow (3766) on Saturday September 04 2021, @02:48AM (#1174359) Journal

          And of course I disagree. You disrespect old people

          Old people who've been stealing from young people for 80 years (in the case of US Social Security). Other public pension funds may vary in their degree and duration of theft.

          • (Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Saturday September 04 2021, @04:21AM (3 children)

            by fustakrakich (6150) on Saturday September 04 2021, @04:21AM (#1174382) Journal

            The only people doing any stealing are the bankers you support. I'll assume you profit from this theft also.

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            La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..

            • (Score: 1) by khallow on Saturday September 04 2021, @10:38AM (2 children)

              by khallow (3766) on Saturday September 04 2021, @10:38AM (#1174418) Journal

              The only people doing any stealing are the bankers you support.

              I already mentioned said old people getting a wealth transfer from young people. So your narrative is already disproved. Move on.

              • (Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Saturday September 04 2021, @03:57PM

                by fustakrakich (6150) on Saturday September 04 2021, @03:57PM (#1174473) Journal

                The banks are run by old people, so... touche

                You are deluded to believe you have disproven anything I have said, You simply recite and profit from neoliberal propaganda of the financial industry. You are paid to believe I am wrong, so you must

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              • (Score: 3, Touché) by Runaway1956 on Saturday September 04 2021, @09:11PM

                by Runaway1956 (2926) on Saturday September 04 2021, @09:11PM (#1174544) Homepage Journal

                Yeah, we gotta do something about those gangs of old people running the streets, and robbing from kids.

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  • (Score: 2) by Freeman on Friday September 03 2021, @03:01PM (1 child)

    by Freeman (732) on Friday September 03 2021, @03:01PM (#1174068) Journal

    Yeah, that's just going to create another crisis or more crises or whatever. You need a plan that doesn't whack, those in need, off at the knees.

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    • (Score: 1) by khallow on Saturday September 04 2021, @03:26AM

      by khallow (3766) on Saturday September 04 2021, @03:26AM (#1174369) Journal
      Will it create more crises than just running the programs full tilt until the economy falls apart? I doubt it.

      Keep in mind that taxes paid for this stuff also whacks people off at the knees.

  • (Score: 3, Insightful) by cmdrklarg on Friday September 03 2021, @04:38PM (1 child)

    by cmdrklarg (5048) on Friday September 03 2021, @04:38PM (#1174102)

    I'd start with the bailouts to old people. 25% cut to Social Security, which was already suggested.

    I'd start with cutting bailouts to the wealthy and corporations. 100% cut.

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    • (Score: 1) by khallow on Saturday September 04 2021, @03:25AM

      by khallow (3766) on Saturday September 04 2021, @03:25AM (#1174368) Journal
      My take is a big part of the reason that the wealthy and corporations are getting so much swag are things like Social Security. It's a bribe to the voters to go along with this other stuff.