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posted by janrinok on Monday September 13 2021, @11:43PM   Printer-friendly

Toyota, Honda oppose U.S. House electric vehicle tax plan:

Toyota Motor Corp (7203.T) and Honda Motor Co (7267.T) on Saturday sharply criticized a proposal by Democrats in the U.S. House of Representatives to give union-made electric vehicles in the United States an additional $4,500 tax incentive.

Toyota said in a statement that the plan unveiled late Friday discriminates "against American autoworkers based on their choice not to unionize."

The bill, set to be voted on Tuesday by the Democratic-led House Ways and Means Committee as part of a proposed $3.5 trillion spending bill, would benefit Detroit's Big Three automakers, which have union-represented auto plants. read more

The proposal, estimated to cost $33 billion to $34 billion over 10 years, would boost to up to $12,500 the maximum tax credit for electric vehicles, up from the current $7,500. The $12,500 figure includes a $500 credit for using U.S.-produced batteries.


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  • (Score: -1, Flamebait) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday September 14 2021, @06:48PM (4 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday September 14 2021, @06:48PM (#1177792)

    Trump: racist.

    Enh. Maybe. Didn't really push racism in office. The times everyone screech RACISM!!! as if they were warning about the coming of the vampire plague, I went to read his executive orders and came away with more nuanced impressions, starting from his "MUSLIM BAN" that didn't ban a lot of muslims, and did ban a lot of other people, going forward. So not all that effective at racism, y'know.

    Trump: narcissistic.

    I'll believe that might be relevant when you show me a US president who wasn't.

    Trump: nazi.

    I have not seen one crumb of actual evidence (screeched hearsay doesn't become evidence by virtue of having been screeched) that he supported the policies of the national socialist workers' party of Germany, even translated into the US context. I have seen him push for policies that would have been absolute anathema to them, for example by way of preferring private enterprise to a command economy, and pushing for reductions and simplifications in regulations.

    So, did you have actual specific evidence to support your allegations, or was this just a ritualistic twenty seconds' hate session?

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  • (Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday September 14 2021, @07:52PM (3 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday September 14 2021, @07:52PM (#1177824)

    It is merely the millionth time Republican hypocrisy is being pointed out. Joe Biden is a filthy socialist, and a corporate hack. Which is it?

    Don't worry, rhetorical question, we all know conservatives change their tune to suit the issue at hand. They have lost their integrity, morality, and sanity. Nazi is just the slur for fascists, and Trump was definitely a fascist though not necessarily a Nazi.

    https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/trump-hitler-mein-kampf/ [snopes.com]

    Did Donald Trump Say ‘Mein Kampf’ Had a ‘Profound Effect’ on Him?
    The same internet meme quoted Trump as saying he has 'tremendous respect' for Adolf Hitler.

    So yes people made up some claims, but there is a little truth there and you can tell a nerve is hit when Trump says something is "the worst thing ever". So while there is no real proof he is a Nazi doughboy it certainly seems likely he is at least a fan of Hitler.

    "A friend of mine sent me a book. A man who I think is Jewish, although I don’t know, sent me a book."

    Hahaha, wow, even throws in a "my friend is Jewish" to try and counter the obvious implications. He only ever gets really mad when unfavorable facts about him surface, otherwise he just whines like a spoiled brat. There, happy with the tangent into Trump's fascist nature?

    As for his racism? "Enh. Maybe. Didn't really push racism in office. " Lawl, he said so much racist shit as president, mainly tied to illegal immigration. No need to give you citations, some simple web searches will find what you're looking for. Might need to use a private browsing window so your searches are less biased.

    • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday September 14 2021, @09:58PM (2 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday September 14 2021, @09:58PM (#1177872)

      *sigh* this horseshit again, delivered fresh and fly-covered from the people who have trouble with tough concepts.

      No, Donald Trump's policies did not resemble those of Mussolini. You remember the italian dude Mussolini? The Fascist OG? Donald Trump's policies did not resemble Franco (Spain), Hitler (Germany), or even Verwoerd (South Africa). All of the above were fascists in important policy facets relating to everything from their treatment of the media, nationalisation and indirect management/control of business and industrial policy, authoritarianism and abrogation of the rule of law.

      Words have definitions, and those definitions matter. "Fascist" isn't just a nasty word that tells us all that someone made you wet yourself while crying in the closet, it's a class of policies and structures that define a government philosophy, which had very little in common to do with what Donald Trump either espoused or enacted.

      So, if you want to come up with the claim that Donald Trump was a big, bad, mean, doodoohead FASCIST - be specific on actual policies. Start with increasing and encroaching industrial policy and regulations, and removal of civil liberties. Specifics, not ill-defined whinings about how he might have had a jewish friend (or family member). Because (spoiler alert) if he wasn't interested in removing civil liberties? Not a fascist, go back to square 1.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday September 15 2021, @01:38AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday September 15 2021, @01:38AM (#1177934)

        So you're a braindead moron, thanks for clearing that up!

      • (Score: 2) by ilsa on Thursday September 16 2021, @06:57PM

        by ilsa (6082) Subscriber Badge on Thursday September 16 2021, @06:57PM (#1178360)

        At this point you aren't fooling anyone with your dishonest answer. Just because he was _blocked_ from instituting draconian policies doesn't mean he didn't try. Just cause his insurrection attempt failed doesn't mean he didn't try.

        His fake news thing was a direct pull from Hitler's playbook.

        The only way you can possibly say he isn't fascist is if you intentionally ignored the landslide of evidence in front of your eyes.