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Here, this will settle your stupid gun control fight!

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Not gonna spoil it. You'll have to watch, or just move along

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  • (Score: 2) by DannyB on Tuesday September 14 2021, @01:42PM (7 children)

    by DannyB (5839) on Tuesday September 14 2021, @01:42PM (#1177686) Journal

    What if the state decides you're an obvious danger and ships you off to a concentration camp? That's another more realistic scenario we should be considering here.

    Isn't that the exact reason that your side argues that the good guys should have guns? (I'm not arguing that point.)

    So then why do you ignore the real issue of bad guys having guns and not actually want to address it? I know it seems to have no easy answers. But we do have a very real problem that you want to ignore.

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  • (Score: 1) by khallow on Tuesday September 14 2021, @03:21PM (5 children)

    by khallow (3766) on Tuesday September 14 2021, @03:21PM (#1177718) Journal

    So then why do you ignore the real issue of bad guys having guns and not actually want to address it?

    Because nobody has 1) a reliable way to determine who the bad guys are, and 2) no compelling reason to address that.

    • (Score: 3, Insightful) by DannyB on Tuesday September 14 2021, @04:48PM (4 children)

      by DannyB (5839) on Tuesday September 14 2021, @04:48PM (#1177756) Journal

      There is no perfect way to address who the bad guys are. Some are obvious. Others are not.

      As for no compelling reason, we will just have to disagree. You seem to be blind to the problem. You just don't want to see it for political reasons. I don't have a problem with good people having guns. I'm willing to work for a policy that works for a majority of people on a divisive issue.

      The reason the issue is divisive is because we have a problem. But you refuse to even acknowledge it. Not a good point to have any meaningful discussion.

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      • (Score: 1) by khallow on Tuesday September 14 2021, @07:05PM (3 children)

        by khallow (3766) on Tuesday September 14 2021, @07:05PM (#1177804) Journal
        No, you merely claim we have a problem serious enough to ban normal citizen access/ownership of firearms. For example, who are these nebulous bad people who shouldn't have access to firearms and how do you figure that out?

        • (Score: 2) by DannyB on Tuesday September 14 2021, @08:48PM (2 children)

          by DannyB (5839) on Tuesday September 14 2021, @08:48PM (#1177857) Journal

          The normal citizens are not the ones who should be banned from access to firearms. You misrepresent what I am saying.

          There are bad people. Some are obvious. Others are not so obvious.

          An example. A person who has brandished firearms at others, and has been court ordered to have no contact with someone and take an anger management class might be an obvious example of someone who probably should not have a firearm.

          Everyone else around that person probably should have a firearm.

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          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday September 15 2021, @01:05AM (1 child)

            by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday September 15 2021, @01:05AM (#1177917)

            Brandishing is already a felony, those people will already be barred from legally owning weapons...

            • (Score: 2, Insightful) by khallow on Wednesday September 15 2021, @02:36AM

              by khallow (3766) on Wednesday September 15 2021, @02:36AM (#1177947) Journal
              This. Though there's some states that allow some felons to own firearms, courts can prohibit people like this from owning firearms.

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday September 27 2021, @08:42AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday September 27 2021, @08:42AM (#1181799)

    Because every law thus far has been an attempt to get guns out of the hands of "bad guys" without having an effect on the "good guys". I don't see any fewer bad guys with guns.

    Show me a law that doesn't primarily harm the good guys that would have stopped the Vegas shooting. Guy was an insane millionaire and even though he didnt use automatic weapons could have easily afforded them (250 for tax stamp, ??? For FBI background check that would have come through clean, and 25k-ish per weapon)

    The only thing that worked was stop and frisk, horribly unconstitutional but if we are going to discuss efficacy it should be on the table.

    I would be less bothered by the gun control crowd if they were going after handguns more and rifles less, handguns range up to 20k/year while rifles and shotguns are each down around 300.