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New Zealand police arrest pair trying to enter Auckland with ‘large amount’ of KFC:
The men were arrested after allegedly trying to flee from police near the Auckland border. When their car was searched, police said they found a large quantity of KFC, as well as the cash and a number of empty ounce bags.
The arrest struck a chord with New Zealanders – especially Aucklanders, who have spent a month in a strict level four lockdown that does not allow restaurants to open or residents to order takeaway food.
[...] After the KFC arrest, a police spokesperson said “officers noticed a suspicious looking vehicle travelling on a gravel road, and upon seeing the police car, the vehicle did a U-turn and sped off trying to evade police.
[...] A breach of the Covid-19 Public Health Response Act can result in imprisonment for up to six months; or a fine of up to $4,000.
The men will appear in court for breaching the health order, and police said further charges were likely.
(Score: 5, Insightful) by sjames on Tuesday September 21 2021, @08:39PM (60 children)
The toll from covid has actually been significantly higher than you claim and medical resources have been strained to the breaking point in many places. The stats on Polio were a bit less extreme than covid. It's easy to forget that now that people actually got their shots and polio faded away (though to this day there are people dealing with post-polio syndrome). By contrast, in the great Satanic Panic, no actual case of organized satanic ritual abuse was found.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday September 21 2021, @08:51PM (6 children)
What should that tell you about the covid stats? Does this actually feel more extreme than polio to you?
(Score: 5, Informative) by Tork on Tuesday September 21 2021, @09:47PM
Ask Mitch McConnell about it. Serious.
Slashdolt Logic: "25 year old jokes about sharks and lasers are +5, Funny." 💩
(Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday September 21 2021, @10:13PM (4 children)
I remember them claiming that just over a year ago, so Trump sent Navy hospital ships to New York and Los Angeles, and Chicago converted the Merchandise Mart into an emergency COVID ward. All of them remained empty, because the whole "we're overwhelmed" story was bullshit.
(Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday September 22 2021, @12:41AM (3 children)
You're not the only one who remembers that.
Do you also remember the whole: "We don't trust Trump's pharma buddies! The vax is a scam!" which turned into: "Follow the science! Take the vax, you anti-vaxers are killing us all!"
Oh yes, and also then: "Trump's travel bans are all racist, unnecessary moves to appease his nazifascist army!" followed by: "Lock all the things down, for the love of sweet baby Jesus!"
But I'm really glad that they followed the science, or we might have had a pandemic and logistical nightmares on our hands. Sure dodged a bullet there.
(Score: 5, Insightful) by Tork on Wednesday September 22 2021, @02:29AM (2 children)
The meme you read that off of left off the bit in-between about the Trump Administration pushing snake-oily health cures.
Slashdolt Logic: "25 year old jokes about sharks and lasers are +5, Funny." 💩
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday September 22 2021, @04:54PM (1 child)
I didn't know that was a meme (rule 35 probably exists that says everything is) but I do remember a lot of prominent lefties going all vax-panic when the election was rumbling nearer and the FDA was starting to give the OK sign.
But I guess I didn't see anybody saying that the vaccine would turn you into a MAGAhead, so there's that.
(Score: 2) by Tork on Wednesday September 22 2021, @05:09PM
Mmm hmmm. And you probably saw a buncha spittle leaving the mouth of the broadcaster that told you that. That doesn't change the fact that the Trump Administration turded up its credibility about vaccine development numerous times. If you truly feel that 'prominent lefties' are responsible for vaccine hesitancy then you really should have been wagging your finger at the Trump Administration's mis-steps that gave the left such a powerful weapon to wield against the rights' voters.
Slashdolt Logic: "25 year old jokes about sharks and lasers are +5, Funny." 💩
(Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday September 21 2021, @09:21PM (3 children)
To be fair, medical resources have been strained to the breaking point in many places due to funding cuts well before covid. All it needed was one big event to bring down the house of cards, and now we've got it.
(Score: 2) by RS3 on Tuesday September 21 2021, @10:13PM
Funding cuts, and capitalism at work (always cheapening everything)- not a good recipe for healthy outcomes.
And lets toss in the legal system: fear and costs of malpractice suits and insurance, complications, confusion, and fear due to HIPAA and other laws and rules. Well intended laws, but many in healthcare don't understand them and generally shy away from anything that might border on privacy violations.
(Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Wednesday September 22 2021, @01:31AM
It started further back than you imply. The first "Regional Medical Center" started things off. Since then, thousands of hospitals have been shut down because they couldn't compete with the hundreds of regional centers that replaced them. Tip of the hat to the Catholic orders that run their own hospitals - they haven't consolidated facilities nearly so thoroughly as their non-Catholic counterparts.
Every town and small city over ~8,000 - 10,000 should have their own hospital, even if it's mostly outpatient with 10 to 20 beds for inpatient services and emergency services. Instead, we routinely transport everyone 50 to 100 miles to a Regional Pathogen Concentration Center.
Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
(Score: 3, Touché) by Tork on Wednesday September 22 2021, @05:12PM
Slashdolt Logic: "25 year old jokes about sharks and lasers are +5, Funny." 💩
(Score: 5, Informative) by Freeman on Tuesday September 21 2021, @09:22PM (17 children)
Please note the varied history and length of time it took to actually "eradicate" Polio.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polio_vaccine [wikipedia.org]
Joshua 1:9 "Be strong and of a good courage; be not afraid, neither be thou dismayed: for the Lord thy God is with thee"
(Score: -1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday September 21 2021, @10:18PM (12 children)
and
So... the polio vaccine, for a disease MUCH worse than COVID, took several years to go from initial development to widespread use. And even then, it turned out to have truly horrible side effects.
But the COVID vaccine, with MONTHS of testing, is perfectly safe, with absolutely no side effects, and anyone who even questions it is evil and should be locked up.
(Score: 5, Touché) by Gaaark on Tuesday September 21 2021, @10:49PM (1 child)
Well, gee. You mean scientists and virologists, etc have learned from the past and science has advanced?
Alert Galen and Hippocrates!
--- Please remind me if I haven't been civil to you: I'm channeling MDC. ---Gaaark 2.0 ---
(Score: 2) by krishnoid on Tuesday September 21 2021, @11:00PM
Galen and Hippocrates -- nope, can't find any published papers [nih.gov] authored by that Hippo dude. Not sure what you could be referring to in terms of some kind of universally accessible body of scientific (in particular, medical) progress.
Make people cite something on PubMed when they make a medical claim. I bet you a lot of people have never heard about it.
(Score: 3, Insightful) by Mykl on Tuesday September 21 2021, @10:49PM (5 children)
We've also had almost 70 years of medical progress since then. Let's look at a more recent example.
Can you tell me a bit more about the horrible side-effects and disasters that befell the rollout of the HPV vaccine [wikipedia.org]? No? Ah.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday September 21 2021, @11:19PM (4 children)
Is human papillomavirus a coronavirus? No? Ah.
Meanwhile, dengue vaccine, as recently as 2017: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dengvaxia_controversy [wikipedia.org]
No doubt that we had 70 years of propaganda progress indeed; but as to medical progress, do understand that rising prices do NOT translate into better care.
(Score: 2) by Mykl on Wednesday September 22 2021, @12:56AM (1 child)
Polio's not a coronavirus either, so why are you trying to compare it to COVID while simultaneously discarding HPV?
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday September 22 2021, @01:02PM
Because NOT A SINGLE WORKING CORONAVIRUS VACCINE before COVID. Literally nothing to base the comparison on.
Except maybe this: https://www.petmd.com/cat/care/what-fiv-and-why-fiv-vaccine-no-longer-available [petmd.com]
Satisfied now?
(Score: 2) by sjames on Wednesday September 22 2021, @01:30AM (1 child)
Dengue also isn't a corona virus so Ah yourself. The Dengue vaccine is only authorized in the U.S. for people who have already had lab confirmed Dengue previously. That is exactly due to the issues your link talks about.
(Score: 1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday September 22 2021, @12:58PM
You should not have touched THAT can of worms. Now that you have - welcome to the world of pain that is coronavirus vaccine failures.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/2829570/ [nih.gov]
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/8830483/ [nih.gov]
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/19122397/ [nih.gov]
https://www.petmd.com/cat/care/what-fiv-and-why-fiv-vaccine-no-longer-available [petmd.com]
We lost two young cats to FIP, so I had quite compelling reason to research the theme to exhaustion.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7943455/ [nih.gov]
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7291966/ [nih.gov]
Human coronaviruses, no more tractable that FIP.
Not a single working one before COVID, despite 3+ decades of attempts. Then COVID came, magic happened and the problem got solved in a month. Supposedly. You wish.
(Score: 2) by sjames on Wednesday September 22 2021, @12:48AM (2 children)
One particular production line of polio vaccine turned out to have unacceptably high rates of serious side effects and was ordered off the market. We've learned a lot since then. I was happy to see that the 2 commonly used vaccines in the U.S. contain no actual corona and so cannot cause the disease.
(Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Wednesday September 22 2021, @06:28PM (1 child)
See, that's actually a problem. If it were distributed in bottles of Corona, a lot more people would be willing to chug it down. I'm sure it's a lot easier to swallow a microchip, than to have it forcibly injected into your arm.
Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
(Score: 2) by edIII on Wednesday September 22 2021, @07:02PM
Oh dear sweet baby Jesus... you don't actually believe the microchip shit do you?
Technically, lunchtime is at any moment. It's just a wave function.
(Score: 2) by Freeman on Wednesday September 22 2021, @01:57PM
The more interesting point I was trying to make was that Polio was not "eliminated" in the Americas until 1994. That's more than 4 decades after the first effective vaccine was created.
Also, there's still polio "in the wild". The only disease that seems to have been totally eradicated by mass vaccination in humans is Smallpox. There are some effective vaccines that keep several other bad ones at by, such as Polio, but they have not been eradicated. Then again, none of the others caused 300-500 million deaths in the 20th century.
Interesting page of deadly diseases: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_human_disease_case_fatality_rates [wikipedia.org]
Joshua 1:9 "Be strong and of a good courage; be not afraid, neither be thou dismayed: for the Lord thy God is with thee"
(Score: 2, Insightful) by Runaway1956 on Wednesday September 22 2021, @01:48AM (3 children)
I was just a wee lad then - but it seems to me that the public's opinion wasn't all that tarnished. It was mandatory that we had our shots before starting school in 1961. I can't say how many years prior to 1961 they were mandatory, but I know that I had my shot because the school required it.
To put things in perspective, 3 members of the family in my parent's generation were stricken by polio. None in my generation. No siblings, no cousins, no second cousins, third cousins, no classmates. As far as I know, everyone in my generation in this country got the shot. This article helps with perspective - https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2021/05/03/988756973/cant-help-falling-in-love-with-a-vaccine-how-polio-campaign-beat-vaccine-hesitan [npr.org]
Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
(Score: 3, Insightful) by Azuma Hazuki on Wednesday September 22 2021, @06:05PM (2 children)
And yet you had to be forced by your family to get the covid shot. What the fuck is wrong with you? Why was 5 year old you smarter than 65 year old you?
I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday September 22 2021, @06:16PM (1 child)
Did 5 year old Runaway even have a choice?
(Score: 1, Troll) by Runaway1956 on Wednesday September 22 2021, @06:25PM
'Zumi attributes me with god-like powers. She probably thinks that I was responsible for that whole Vietnam War thing. Probably thinks that I assassinated John, Bobby, and Martin. Fear the demigod, Runaway!
Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
(Score: 3, Insightful) by fustakrakich on Tuesday September 21 2021, @09:31PM (24 children)
Any shortage is a business issue, not a medical or technical one. We need the money to keep the financial markets afloat, not enough left over for your hospitals and medical staff. 120 billion dollars will buy you 30,000 ventilators or 6 billion doses of the vax, more or less. A demand for proper financing and transparent administration will ensure plenty of supplies for everybody worldwide. The whole issue is one of human incompetence and corruption, worse than the virus itself. Almost like being killed by friendly fire.
La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
(Score: 3, Touché) by sjames on Tuesday September 21 2021, @11:11PM (23 children)
Here's a few billion dollars, kindly double the ICU capacity in the U.S. Oh, and I'll need that by noon tomorrow, we good? No? You mean you can't wave your magic wand and poof a few thousand more educated health professionals into existence in 18 hours? Well I'll be damned!
While I'll readily agree that at least in the U.S. we could be doing a hell of a lot better with healthcare, even a fully socialized system has to be optimized for utilization and may be subject to strain under extreme conditions.
(Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday September 21 2021, @11:47PM (2 children)
A list of the 50 countries with the highest number of hospital beds per 1000 people. Supports your statement. Not a lot in common within the top 50. But, the US doesn't make the list, so whatever it is about the US, the US is shite at providing for its citizens.
https://www.worldatlas.com/articles/countries-with-the-most-hospital-beds-per-capita.html [worldatlas.com]
Ah, here it is. The list of top 15 countries for spending on military. US on top in a category all its own in that one. This alone is sufficient to explain why the US is a shit hole country with a non-existent social safety net, crumbling infrastructure, and (in many cases worse than) 3rd world health outcomes and life expectancy.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_military_expenditures [wikipedia.org]
(Score: 1, Troll) by ChrisMaple on Wednesday September 22 2021, @04:35PM (1 child)
The U.S. military is the price the U.S. taxpayer pays to keep ungrateful snobs around the world alive and more-or-less free. Do you need any further proof than Afghanistan?
The cost of healthcare in the U.S. is high, and if there were more beds it would be even higher. There are many reasons:
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday September 22 2021, @09:34PM
The US is like a pyromaniac fireman who starts fires around the world, pretends to be the hero putting them out and the victim when burned.
(Score: 2, Interesting) by fustakrakich on Tuesday September 21 2021, @11:50PM (19 children)
We are under a chronic condition now, it's all corruption at this point. This is hardly extreme. Business is moving fairly normally here. But scheduled procedures are hard to come these days because somebody "might need the ventilator". It's bogus. It's all for the love of money
La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
(Score: 2) by sjames on Wednesday September 22 2021, @01:24AM (18 children)
Meanwhile, in the southeast I see articles about a man needing ECMO but there is none to be had and a man having a heart attack in Alabama who has to be shipped to Mississippi for treatment because there were no beds in Alabama for him.
Grady memorial and others have been on full diversion for a while.
(Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Wednesday September 22 2021, @01:42AM
That's my whole point. There's plenty of money to ensure everyone is supplied, it's just being misspent to prop up the financial markets, instead of supplying hospitals training staff and paying peoples' bills, to the tune of 120 billion every month for the last two years, not including the trillions (they say 700bil) spent on bailing out the repo market [catalyzewm.com]. Note, timing is everything. All talk about shortages and debt are absolute garbage until this is addressed. Why should we let one totally non-productive sector of the economy profit so much in contradiction to all others during a crisis? Everything we suffer is through mismanagement. Our denial only makes it worse and drags it out
La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
(Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Wednesday September 22 2021, @01:55AM (6 children)
Specifics required to explain why he was transported across state lines. Wadley Regional Medical Center in Texarkana routinely gets Arkansas residents, along with some Oklahoma and Louisiana residents, simply because it is the closest medical facility. There may be some here who don't understand that Alabama and Mississippi are neighboring states, and that a medical center across the state line might be the closest available care even under normal circumstances.
Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
(Score: 2) by sjames on Wednesday September 22 2021, @02:16AM
The article I read was explicit that there were several closer places that had no room. Here's a report [cnn.com] on the incident.
(Score: 3, Informative) by Tork on Wednesday September 22 2021, @02:34AM (4 children)
Slashdolt Logic: "25 year old jokes about sharks and lasers are +5, Funny." 💩
(Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Wednesday September 22 2021, @07:23AM (3 children)
That doesn't explicitly say that any of the 43 hospitals actually had ICU facilities for heart patients. "The level of care he required". Interesting choice of words, actually.
Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
(Score: 3, Touché) by Tork on Wednesday September 22 2021, @07:47AM (2 children)
Oh, yeah that's real sus. Are most of the ICUs around there specialized in dental? 🙄
Slashdolt Logic: "25 year old jokes about sharks and lasers are +5, Funny." 💩
(Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Wednesday September 22 2021, @08:58AM (1 child)
I dunno what they might specialize in. I know that burn victims anywhere around here are routinely airlifted to Children's in Little Rock, or to Shriner's in Shreveport. Heart patients are routinely transported (not necessarily airlifted) to St. Vincent in Hot Springs. Yeah, hospitals do kinda specialize, especially university hospitals. If you have all of the story concerning that heart patient, I'll be happy to listen. The article blames COVID patients, but it isn't clear that the blame is entirely justified.
Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
(Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Wednesday September 22 2021, @05:27PM
Which means they're full of shit, a propaganda piece, unless they're talking about the refusal to get the vax. And specialized hospitals are irrelevant to the fact that there is plenty of money available to build adequate facilities wherever they are needed in short order. After two years of this, all shortages are caused by bullshit
La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
(Score: 2) by VLM on Wednesday September 22 2021, @03:12PM (9 children)
Couple interesting observations about 'bama and the data at healthdata.org
The covid death rate was about zilch from spring until August. Now its about two dozen dead per day. But it was one to three dozen dead per day from May of 2020 until Jan of 2021. Propaganda/news is always focused on the recent but I wonder how coverage compares to the recent "crisis" to most of the year of 2020.
There was a spike of deaths in 'bama in late Jan/Early Feb this year that was about five times the current death rate. So if delta is a real threat and not a nothingburger the "crisis" could predictably be five times worse than the screaming propaganda at present. So thats gonna be shrill.
On the other hand the peak infection rate in 'bama for the previous peak was around new years around 11K people per day being infected. The population of 'bama is not that big and given the extremely high asymptomatic rate of covid, the entire state could be infected in little more than a month. Anyway, the peak death rate was about a month later. As for the Delta infection rate peak, that was way back around Aug 1st, so peak death rate "should have been" a couple weeks ago, but instead it seems to be now?
"Strike while the iron is hot" so the propaganda is going to be hot and heavy about 'bama for a few more weeks before rates naturally drop back to zero or so.
Comparing the graphs of infection, vaxing, masking, and social distancing they seem completely unrelated. I'm sure in the lab masks always work and it can be proven in the lab, but in practice it seems to have no effect. Masking certainly has no effect on infection rates, the infection graphs look identical at 70% masking and at 25% masking. The infection peaks before and after vax appear identical, as if vax has no effect on the disease. Social distancing graphs (based, I think, on cellphone data?) also show no impact on infection rates.
There is a huge aspect of cowardice and acceptance that isn't discussed. Clearly, outside a lab, in the real world, nothing any human being can do in 'bama, or likely the entire world, has any effect on the disease. Its just wasted effort, security theater style, on a grand scale. Lockdowns didn't work, masks didn't work, social distancing didn't work, the vax doesn't work, hating your neighbor doesn't work, using big government and big corporations doesn't work... Some areas, like where I live, are much braver than crappy New Zealand, so we're living our lives like normal for many months now and we generally ignore the fearful propaganda. I think we're moving to a "Civil War" style thing where we're gonna self select to the people who live in terror and demand everyone play along, and the people who bravely live life. Certainly, for people older than 80 or whom are very sick, its a more dangerous life than it was before, but better to live in danger than endlessly cower in fear in front of a TV. Being scared all the time just means you gonna die scared, its not gonna save your life or extend your life. People in New Zealand, or at least their government serf owners, must be some of the shittiest cowards I've ever heard of.
As far as I know, on a micro scale, the only procedure or process, under human control, that DOES help individuals survive covid on a small individual scale is being not obese and having decent cardiovascular health. So hit the gym, as I do. A good workout feels good, too. Just got back from the gym, in fact. Get out there and live. Let the cowards be cowards and everyone else can inherit the earth.
(Score: 2) by sjames on Wednesday September 22 2021, @04:26PM (8 children)
Are you planning to keep spinning like that? If you are, I'll wrap some copper wire around you and see if we can get an alternate energy program going.
The vax works, but only if you take it. A lot of people haven't because they're afraid it'll improve their 5G reception or make the dog lick itself excessively or something. Similarly the mask helps (not as much as the shot), but only if you actually wear it over your mouth and nose rather than as a chin diaper.
(Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Wednesday September 22 2021, @05:14PM (3 children)
So, here we are, still arguing amongst ourselves instead of demanding that available money be redirected towards staffing and equipment, and clear honest education. This is why we suffer any shortages. What ever happened to loosening up the patents so more countries can make their own vax? Two months of bailout money will vax the whole world
It has been two years, what's up??
La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
(Score: 2) by sjames on Wednesday September 22 2021, @05:29PM (2 children)
At least here in the U.S. we have all the vax we need. What we're missing is willing arms to put it in.
(Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Wednesday September 22 2021, @05:37PM (1 child)
Yeah, there are ways to deal with that too. It would be self defense to make space to isolate all the Typhoid Marys and give them a jab.
La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
(Score: 3, Touché) by sjames on Wednesday September 22 2021, @09:42PM
Blow darts would be fun!
(Score: 2) by VLM on Thursday September 23 2021, @06:56PM (3 children)
That's my point about the problem. They only work in the lab or when TV presenters claim so. Just not in 'bama. Believe science and look at the graphs.
"Go to church and pray harder like the good people do and then everything will be better", except now we're talking about masks, isn't a viable scientific policy.
(Score: 2) by sjames on Thursday September 23 2021, @07:49PM (2 children)
They work when they are worn. They do not work when jackasses run around spewing their disease everywhere. They are not perfect. Kinda like seat belts. Using one doesn't render you immortal, but your cousin's roommate's best friend's sister once got injured in a car crash while wearing a seatbelt is not a good reason to skip it.
(Score: 2) by VLM on Thursday September 23 2021, @08:37PM (1 child)
I'm not disagreeing with you. I'm sure they work awesome in the lab, and when properly used by "professionals" like surgeons I guess.
I'm just saying they don't work as a public policy. The infection rate graphs in 'bama when everybody wore masks look the same as the infection rate graphs when nobody wears masks. Therefore a public policy of everyone wears masks is utterly ineffective and a waste of effort and even worse it provides a false sense of security.
AFAIK the graphs for seatbelt use are wildly different situation, and they do save lots of lives. I'm too lazy to look it up but I'd agree with you tentatively. A public policy of "wear seatbelts" seems to coincide with a massive decline in traffic death rates as I recall.
Your claim of the entire state of 'bama being an anecdote seem unlikely. Its a big state, the experiment was run semi-rigorously over a long time... The two graphs under different conditions look darn near identical (maybe fake data is being used?). If you're gonna claim its a mere anecdote that seems your responsibility to explain why, it seems like good solid experimental method and good solid data. OK lets say AL is an outlier. Lets choose Nevada because why not. Their alpha peak infection rate around new years was around 5000 people per day during eighty percent masking. Their delta peak was in late July and masking rate in mid july was forty percent. The upward slope of both peaks is indistinguishable, although the delta peak was only about 4/5 the size of the alpha peak despite half the population no longer wearing masks. So in both states, wearing masks seems to have no effect on either infection rate or total number of infections.
(Score: 2) by sjames on Thursday September 23 2021, @09:54PM
I'd like to know where this mythical place in Alabama where everyone wears a mask is. I've never seen a unicorn in person!
I'm not claimint the entire state as an anecdote, I am talking about a particular news report (link was provided) where a guy ended up being sent to a hospital in another state to deal with a heart attack (apparently the 44th place contacted according to the report).
(Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday September 21 2021, @10:12PM
Even the government "with COVID" numbers are around 1/10 of regular annual mortality.
When those resources were REDUCED to said point in the years prior, no magic disease is required to explain the completely natural breakdown.
Any worse-than-mild flu would do the same, if compounded with similar panic measures further hampering the use of what is left after the "optimizations".
(Score: 5, Informative) by krishnoid on Tuesday September 21 2021, @11:48PM (4 children)
And people dealing with long COVID-19 [cdc.gov] symptoms as well, many of which are invisible -- including fatigue, which exacerbates the invisibility, as people are less likely to go outside.
(Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday September 22 2021, @12:04AM (3 children)
"Rediscovering" ages-old things as "new COVID symptoms" is beyond disgusting.
Here is what "long COVID" was called for 30+ years before COVID: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chronic_fatigue_syndrome [wikipedia.org]
Here are 150 years of its history since discovery: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_chronic_fatigue_syndrome [wikipedia.org]
BTW, for your further education, the "loss of smell" as it was in 2019:
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Anosmia&oldid=916192336#List_of_causes [wikipedia.org]
(Score: 4, Touché) by sjames on Wednesday September 22 2021, @01:38AM (1 child)
There are conditions that resemble other conditions? You don't say!
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday September 22 2021, @01:09PM
There are usual complications of respiratory viral infections. And then there are shameless fearmongers like you. What damn virus had caused your freaking condition?
(Score: 2) by krishnoid on Wednesday September 22 2021, @04:37AM
That's amazing! COVID-19 actually went *back in time* and caused those symptoms! This is way more important than some dumb epidemic!