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Delta Air Lines calls for carriers to share names of unruly passengers:
Delta Air Lines is calling for an industry-wide effort to keep passengers from boarding competitors' flights after being banned for disruptive behavior.
So far this year, Delta says it has submitted the names of more than 600 banned passengers to the Federal Aviation Administration, which has sought to enforce rules against interfering with flight crews. The industry has seen a surge in poor behavior and banned passengers in recent months, with the bulk of incidents related to face mask requirements.
"We've also asked other airlines to share their 'no fly' list to further protect airline employees across the industry," Delta said in a memo this week. "A list of banned customers doesn't work as well if that customer can fly with another airline."
The company did not say whether sharing of passenger lists should be through the federal government or among companies themselves, and declined to elaborate. Delta said it has more than 1,600 people on its internal no-fly list and did not clarify why it submitted fewer than that to the FAA.
[...] The FAA was noncommittal about the idea Friday, saying in a statement the agency "is meeting with airports, airlines, unions, and others to discuss what additional steps the FAA and our industry partners can collectively take to continue driving down the number of unruly passenger incidents."
The agency said its latest data shows a decline in the rate of unruly passenger incidents. It said that as of last week, incidents involving unruly passengers occurred about six times in every 10,000 flights.
"That's an approximately 50 percent drop from early 2021, but it's more than twice as high as the end of 2020," the agency said Thursday.
(Score: 2) by RS3 on Sunday September 26 2021, @10:54AM (23 children)
I think it's a great question. If there are air marshals on flights, it's possible they don't want to give up their identity until something really bad happens. Maybe airlines will have to hire and fly uniformed officers on board. I hope it doesn't come to that.
(Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday September 26 2021, @11:33AM (7 children)
In this case, the proposed method of prevention is really cheaper than the problem it solves, so expect it to be implemented by the "free market".
Which is another step towards the chinese "social credit system", just in American-style - all private, like the credit rating, insurance rating, tenant screening rating (and soon the vaccine passport - not entirely private, but it will count if you want a job - not like the private businesses will happily pay for your tests forever).
Oh, yes, I almost forgot... (grin)
(Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday September 26 2021, @01:02PM (1 child)
(Score: 3, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday September 26 2021, @01:25PM
Have you ever had effective recourse or the right to confront one's accuser on equal terms?
(Score: 5, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday September 26 2021, @04:52PM (4 children)
> Which is another step towards the chinese "social credit system"
Well if the oft-touted personal responsibility worked, then magatards wouldn't be saving America by yelling at air hostesses.
(Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday September 26 2021, @07:37PM (3 children)
It's always a Karen. Karen grew up in a good Progressive home, and she's privileged. Stop blaming MAGA believers.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday September 26 2021, @08:14PM (1 child)
Both of the women named Karen that I know came from good progressive families and neither of them would even think about disrupting a flight for selfish reasons. Also, neither of them voted for the orange idiot.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday September 26 2021, @11:46PM
Alright, Karen. Whatever you say.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday September 27 2021, @06:33PM
You need help maga traitor.
(Score: 2) by looorg on Sunday September 26 2021, @11:58AM (10 children)
Just what you would (not) want, the equivalent of airline mallcops overreacting at 30000 feet.
(Score: 3, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday September 26 2021, @12:09PM (9 children)
Yeeees, cool headed professionals such as Derek Chauvin are sooo much better.
(Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday September 26 2021, @12:22PM (8 children)
Without a George Floyd, there is no Derek Chauvin. Shouldn't we be preventing more George Floyds?
(Score: 5, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday September 26 2021, @12:59PM (7 children)
Let's ask Breona Taylor and Justine Damond. Oh, wait, we can't no more.
Maybe you like paying taxes that go for complex medical care caused by flash grenades in cribs [finchmccranie.com]? Ummm?
(Score: 4, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday September 26 2021, @05:03PM (6 children)
If he'd been white the NRA would have been all over it like shit on stink.
A registered gun owner declaring his firearm to the cops gets gunned down in front of girlfriend and child?
Like what the actual fuck?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shooting_of_Philando_Castile [wikipedia.org]
https://libertarianinstitute.org/articles/philando-castile-murdered-by-police-four-years-ago/ [libertarianinstitute.org]
https://www.cnn.com/2017/06/20/us/philando-castile-shooting-dashcam/index.html [cnn.com]
https://www.foxnews.com/us/philando-castile-shooting-acquitted-officer-takes-buyout-leaves-force [foxnews.com]
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday September 26 2021, @06:19PM (5 children)
Yaaaa, that was pretty astounding the NRA wasn't supporting him. Really highlifhts the racism of the NRA.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday September 26 2021, @07:38PM
It better highlights the racist lawmakers who make laws allowing cops to gun a black guy down just for being armed. Democrats fear armed black men.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday September 26 2021, @08:45PM
NRA is an obsolete organization. We prefer Gun Owners of America and the National African American Gun Association.
(Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday September 26 2021, @09:06PM (2 children)
NRA has a history. When black people were arming themselves in self defense, the NRA was suddenly pro gun control.
https://www.history.com/news/black-panthers-gun-control-nra-support-mulford-act [history.com]
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday September 26 2021, @11:50PM (1 child)
As you point out, the NRA isn't the 2nd Amendment. Millions of us have abandoned the NRA because the NRA abandoned us first. We pour our money into organizations that actually support the 2nd.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday September 27 2021, @06:55PM
Good, no need to be defensive. Just keep putting distance between responsible 2A supporters and the gun nuts.
(Score: 4, Insightful) by driverless on Sunday September 26 2021, @01:40PM (2 children)
Or they just really, really don't want to get involved. If you're being paid shit wages to spend neverending hours crammed into an uncomfortable airline seat on flight after flight, are you going to want to get involved in a fight with some 250-pound Karen screaming about her freedumbs?
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday September 26 2021, @04:55PM (1 child)
The best defense against a bad Karen is a good Karen. Camera phones at the ready, let the games begin.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday September 27 2021, @02:21AM
Have you ever been stuck between two Karens having a fight? Holy shit.
We should try nukes first. Nukes would be less destructive than letting Karens fight it out.
(Score: 5, Funny) by krishnoid on Sunday September 26 2021, @06:32PM
Eh, if they also hire a decoy to board alongside them in an orange jumpsuit and cuffs, who's going to complain?
"What are you in for?"
"Assault on a domestic flight. They couldn't make that stick though, so really they charged me with multiple counts of copyright infringement."