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posted by martyb on Wednesday September 29 2021, @05:50AM   Printer-friendly
from the what's-in-your-wallet? dept.

70% of Millennials Are Living Paycheck to Paycheck: Survey:

Millennials' wallets are rather skimpy.

Seventy percent of the generation said they're living paycheck to paycheck, according to a survey by PYMNTS and LendingClub, which analyzed economic data and census-balanced surveys of over 28,000 Americans. It found that about 54% of Americans live paycheck to paycheck, but millennials had the biggest broke energy.

By contrast, 40% of baby boomers and seniors said they live paycheck to paycheck, the least of any generation. Living paycheck to paycheck reflects economic needs and wants just as much, if not more than, incomes or wealth levels, according to the report. Age and family status also factor in greatly. This explains why millennials, who turn ages 25 to 40 this year, are struggling.

[...] It doesn't help that millennials have faced one economic challenge after another since the oldest of them graduated into the dismal job market of the 2008 financial crisis. A dozen years later, many are still grappling with the lingering effects of The Great Recession, struggling to build wealth while trying to afford soaring costs for things like housing and healthcare and shouldering the lion's share of America's student-loan debt.

The pandemic threw yet another wrench into their plans by giving them their second recession and second housing crisis before the age of 40. The report acknowledges that the pandemic played a major role in that stretched thin feeling.

[...] It seems, then, that it's a combination of external economic circumstances, a precarious life stage, and some spending habits that are leaving millennials feeling strapped for cash.


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  • (Score: 5, Insightful) by Opportunist on Wednesday September 29 2021, @06:52AM (23 children)

    by Opportunist (5545) on Wednesday September 29 2021, @06:52AM (#1182645)

    Read that again. Half the people in the US have exactly no reserves. Living paycheck to paycheck means that you can't put money away for anything unforeseeable. Car breaking down, you getting sick, having an accident, anything that can happen to anyone basically at any time means that they fall. If they're lucky, into a debt hole. If they're not so lucky, they're already in one from an earlier time.

    Anyone who ever had any kind of training in business administration (and didn't have to go through the seemingly mandatory lobotomy when you actually try to get a degree in it) knows that this means they're eating into their capital. Their income only covers their running expenses, so anything that breaks down in their assets cannot be replaced and needs to either be bought by incurring debt, which they again cannot pay back, or it will have to stay broken.

    This is not sustainable.

    It basically means that 50% of your population are broke.

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  • (Score: 5, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday September 29 2021, @07:33AM (13 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday September 29 2021, @07:33AM (#1182654)

    But it is so much more fun to shit on them and pretend it is some personal failings on their part.

    • (Score: 2) by shortscreen on Wednesday September 29 2021, @08:25AM (3 children)

      by shortscreen (2252) on Wednesday September 29 2021, @08:25AM (#1182672) Journal

      It's not a black and white thing. People who are utterly terrible at managing money do exist. Saving money is a choice that has to be made and some will choose not to do it, even if they have the opportunity. This is one of the observations that supports the creation of things like pensions funded by employers or government. Of course, people who are utterly terrible at managing money exist in business and government as well and will occasionally run those funds into the ground while they were tasked with saving on others' behalf.

      It would be great if we could rein in the corporate parasites that underpay employees at one end and then find creative ways to bilk the 'consumer' at the other end. But even if we did that, there'd be somebody impulsively throwing money around like Dmitri Fyodorovich, ending up penniless.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday September 29 2021, @10:56AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday September 29 2021, @10:56AM (#1182690)

        It's not a black and white thing. People who are utterly terrible at managing money do exist.

        Most people are terrible at managing money. And it gets worse in the developing nations. If you are working as a day labourer or in the informal sector, if you don't have a job for a day or two, you literally cannot buy food anymore. You know, bank accounts are not used by most people on the planet. It's cash only.

      • (Score: 3, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday September 29 2021, @02:43PM (1 child)

        by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday September 29 2021, @02:43PM (#1182748)

        I posted this elsewhere, but one thing to remember is that a lot of the wasteful things people spend money on these days are dirt cheap next to the heavy expenses. Netflix is $9 (or whatever), rent is $900 if you're lucky. A used iPhone and a low end data plan costs $600 a year, student loan payments can easily be more than that a month. I make good money, but between health insurance for the family and copays I spend $25,000 a year (my employer pays $8,000). I can cancel my HBO Max subscription, sell my phone, cancel my phone service, and sell my 55 inch TV, it's not going to make a dent in those medical expenses.

        Don't get me wrong, people bankrupt themselves buying huge trucks or taking extravagant vacations. But small luxury spending is not the source of financial problems for most Americans. Rent, health care, student loans, and other living expenses are, and there's not much you can do to reduce those.

        • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday September 30 2021, @09:23PM

          by Anonymous Coward on Thursday September 30 2021, @09:23PM (#1183199)

          And then if they didn't buy them, you'd see even more of those "Millennials aren't buying X anymore!" articles in the media.

    • (Score: 1) by khallow on Wednesday September 29 2021, @12:26PM (8 children)

      by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday September 29 2021, @12:26PM (#1182706) Journal

      and pretend it is some personal failings on their part.

      What's to pretend, Mr. AC? It's part of the price of democracy that when people are allowed to make bad decisions, people make bad decisions.

      Blame others for one's faults is classic human behavior. But it doesn't fix anything.

      • (Score: 3, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday September 29 2021, @01:41PM (7 children)

        by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday September 29 2021, @01:41PM (#1182728)

        We obviously need a -1 Asshole moderation option.

        • (Score: 1) by khallow on Wednesday September 29 2021, @02:59PM (6 children)

          by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday September 29 2021, @02:59PM (#1182752) Journal
          We have this come up every time someone wants to sell the helpless poor narrative. Given that you're complaining not that my post is wrong, but rather that it's rude in some way, it probably should be a +1 asshole instead.
          • (Score: 0, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday September 29 2021, @04:45PM (5 children)

            by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday September 29 2021, @04:45PM (#1182810)

            Ok sociopathic asshole, typical of rightwingers.

            • (Score: 0, Troll) by khallow on Wednesday September 29 2021, @05:34PM (4 children)

              by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday September 29 2021, @05:34PM (#1182840) Journal
              I take it you're bringing the sociopathic assholeness to this thread? I continue to find it interesting how people can go on and on about how bad I am, but can't spare a word to actually disagree.

              Two minute hates don't go far with me.
              • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday September 30 2021, @12:15AM (3 children)

                by Anonymous Coward on Thursday September 30 2021, @12:15AM (#1182985)

                You defend and promote the worst of capitalism, ignore problems, and pretend business as usual is just fine. You are a disciple of Reagan, and it is sickening not only in its greed but its absolute stupidity regarding the economy. Once you stop defending policies and practices that have been proven not only wrong, but amoral, THEN you will stop being insulted. Easier to pretend no one actually addresses your problems, such trolling bullshit and trumpian levels of narcissism denial.

                /s thank you for driving away better users with your constant spew of pro-capitalist anti-science bullshit disguised as objective rational thinking, soon you rightwing nutters will have your echo chamber

                • (Score: 1) by khallow on Thursday September 30 2021, @12:51AM (2 children)

                  by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Thursday September 30 2021, @12:51AM (#1182997) Journal

                  You defend and promote the worst of capitalism, ignore problems, and pretend business as usual is just fine.

                  The "worst"? Like billions of people getting elevated out of poverty? There's something deeply wrong with your narrative.

                  Once you stop defending policies and practices that have been proven not only wrong, but amoral,

                  Like what?

                  /s thank you for driving away better users with your constant spew of pro-capitalist anti-science bullshit disguised as objective rational thinking, soon you rightwing nutters will have your echo chamber

                  You're welcome! Funny how the "better users" have such chips on their shoulders.

                  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 01 2021, @05:30PM (1 child)

                    by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 01 2021, @05:30PM (#1183434)

                    So you're a one trick pony. Well, that isn't accurate. You've used many different tricks over the years, but you seem to only be able to remember how to use one at a time.

                    • (Score: 1) by khallow on Friday October 01 2021, @05:38PM

                      by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Friday October 01 2021, @05:38PM (#1183440) Journal

                      So you're a one trick pony.

                      A trick that elevates billions of people out of poverty. You don't need a second trick when you have that.

                      You've used many different tricks over the years, but you seem to only be able to remember how to use one at a time.

                      Vague accusations without even the slightest effort at providing evidence. How many years have you been peddling that narrative?

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday September 29 2021, @07:55AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday September 29 2021, @07:55AM (#1182663)

    I'm surprised they haven't moved to El salvador yet.

    The pay is lousy there too but at least the weather's nicer and you might find some wealthy gringa sugar momma wanting to pay you in bitcoin to clean her beachside villa.

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday September 29 2021, @12:58PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday September 29 2021, @12:58PM (#1182709)

    It isn't, but it also can't all be blamed on external factors. Several of the millennials I know simply expand their spending to use any available paycheck. I'm not talking about low-wage jobs, either; I work in high tech and know their salary ranges. But if your first reaction to getting paid is to buy a newer, bigger phone, a nicer luxury car, a new TV, and go on a overseas vacation, then your lack of savings is not something I care about.

  • (Score: 5, Insightful) by Thexalon on Wednesday September 29 2021, @02:05PM (6 children)

    by Thexalon (636) on Wednesday September 29 2021, @02:05PM (#1182736)

    This situation isn't accidental, at all.

    The first thing you have to remember is that the seams of the US economy came apart in the 1970's. Some of that was stagflation, some of that was the oil crisis, and some of that was political dysfunction that had been inherited from the late 1960's and Nixon in particular. Then along comes Ronald Reagan and the people he's fronting for, and says "I've got a plan for fixing this: We'll bust the unions, give big tax breaks to the rich, intentionally cause massive unemployment, and basically intentionally screw over everybody who isn't rich so that they never get an inflation-adjusted raise ever again." Wall Street skyrocketed, and that enabled Reagan to get away with it, and was even hailed as a hero by many, and the rich really liked not having to pay taxes anymore, so they poured money into movement conservatism to keep the racket going. The Democrats, who had for decades relied on the now-busted unions for their primary financial backing, got desperate for cash, and Bill Clinton came along and happily took rich-people money, and said "I've got a plan for fixing this: We'll keep all the stuff Reagan did in place, and add in getting rid of tariffs so companies no longer have to manufacture anything in the US anymore and deal with those pesky labor laws. But don't worry, we'll make it easier to borrow against your house if you own one, or your future if you're a teenager trying to go to college." And that helped Wall Street even more and fixed up the federal budget, so got away with that, so now Democrats and Republicans alike know that they can get away with screwing over the middle and especially the working classes without any political penalties whatsoever. And it's been that way ever since in the US, with both major parties making sure that the rich get richer and those who aren't rich have to pay the bill, and people who try to oppose those policies treated as fringe figures.

    Meanwhile, the middle and working classes have made all the adjustments they can possibly make to try to function. Families that had previously made good union wages had to switch to non-union lower-wage work. Families that had previously had a non-working homemaker now sent her to work. Families that had previously been homeowners borrowed money against their home to try to make ends meet, until they lost those homes in the aftermath of the 2008 crash. Since blue-collar prosperity was no longer a viable option, and we'd conveniently gutted high-school vocational programs, young people were faced with the option of either working at fast food and retail the rest of their adult lives, or borrowing against their future earnings to go to college, only to find that those future earnings didn't exist anymore. And contrary to popular belief, personal consumption has been dropping like a rock over this period.

    But desperation is very profitable for people who have capital. Why, don't worry about that unexpected bill, you can take out a payday loan and pay 450% interest! Don't worry about losing your home, you can rent out a similar home and only pay 75% more than you used to spend on your mortgage! Don't worry about your student loans that wouldn't even exist in most countries, you can defer them for now and increase your interest costs so that you can still be paying these loans when you're in your 60's! Don't worry about your boss stealing your wages, that's just a minor civil matter if it's pursued at all by anybody! Don't worry about that massive medical bill because the insurance that was supposed to cover you decided it had an excuse not to, we'll just garnish your wages forever to pay for it!

    Americans are screwed so long as what used to be called public corruption continues to be business as usual.

    --
    The only thing that stops a bad guy with a compiler is a good guy with a compiler.
    • (Score: 1) by khallow on Wednesday September 29 2021, @03:22PM (2 children)

      by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday September 29 2021, @03:22PM (#1182769) Journal
      In other words, US labor had to compete with billions of poor people in vastly cheaper labor markets and a lot of stuff happened.
      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 01 2021, @05:33PM (1 child)

        by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 01 2021, @05:33PM (#1183437)

        The market will fix everything!

        lol your brain is special

        • (Score: 1) by khallow on Friday October 01 2021, @05:42PM

          by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Friday October 01 2021, @05:42PM (#1183444) Journal

          The market will fix everything!

          Well, let us note that a market fix over this time period was the creation of a variety of high tech industries which in turn drove demand for US labor. IMHO, that's the huge reason US wages (and developed world labor in general) didn't collapse. Maybe you ought to pay attention to history next time.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday September 30 2021, @02:57AM (2 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Thursday September 30 2021, @02:57AM (#1183013)

      Another crucial element to the lapse of the working class is the rapud rise in female employment over the years without the proportinal decrease elsewhere. Where all these jobs came from, I do not know, bit it doea occur to me that this was one of the many components of tge decorrelation of productivity and wages, I do also suspect it has quite a bit to do with the impoverishment of blacks, as this occurred nearly simultaneoualy alongside the civil righta movement, meaning that blacks entered into a market where they were already behind, and where the market forced them to stay in place.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday September 30 2021, @11:34AM (1 child)

        by Anonymous Coward on Thursday September 30 2021, @11:34AM (#1183081)

        "The market" didn't force black people to stay in place, racism did. They were less often to be hired when non-black people were available and less often promoted when non-black people were available. Since labor supply exceeded demand, the market would never fix racism. The only way the market would fix it is if labor demand greatly exceeded supply. We had women entering the work force and improvements in automation, so that never happened.

        There is no capitalism fix for this.

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday September 30 2021, @03:45PM

          by Anonymous Coward on Thursday September 30 2021, @03:45PM (#1183116)

          Capitalism doesn't see it as a problem. Capitalism doesn't see problems in most things.