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posted by martyb on Thursday October 07 2021, @10:44PM   Printer-friendly
from the enhance-your-calm dept.

Unruly passenger incidents rising again, FAA data shows:

FAA figures released Tuesday show more disruptions on commercial flights in the past week than any week in the past two and a half months.

The FAA says there were 128 new incidents reported by flight crews, bringing this year's total to 4,626 incidents. The new number is the highest weekly figure since the FAA started releasing weekly data on July 20.

About 72% of issues in the past week were over the federal transportation mask mandate, figures show.

[...] The agency has proposed more than $1 million in fines against unruly airline passengers this year.

One $45,000 fine announced in August was against a passenger accused of throwing his luggage at another passenger and, while lying on the aisle floor, "grabbing a flight attendant by the ankles and putting his head up her skirt."

Another passenger would not wear his face mask, the FAA, said, and "acted as though his hand was a gun and made a 'pew, pew' noise as if he was shooting a fellow passenger."

[...] Pekoske said 110 TSA officers have been assaulted this year.

Lots Of Talk About A Crackdown On America’s Air Rage Epidemic—But Not Enough Action:

Among the most egregious incidents: Last December, a Delta Air Lines passenger tried to open the cockpit door mid-flight and struck a flight attendant in the face before being restrained by crew members and a fellow passenger. On an Alaska Airlines flight in March, a Colorado man who refused to wear a face mask swatted at a flight attendant, then stood up and urinated in his seat area. In May, a Southwest Airlines passenger punched out a flight attendant’s teeth after being told to keep her seat belt fastened.

[...] The threat of four- and five-figure fines has not tamped down unruly behavior on planes. “Civil penalties alone are failing to deter criminal activity by airline passengers,” [...]

[...] The airline industry, meanwhile, says this is a job for the Department of Justice. “We believe that the United States Government is well equipped to prosecute unruly and disruptive onboard behavior,” [...]

What, if anything, should be done, or could improve the situation?


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  • (Score: -1, Flamebait) by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 08 2021, @12:48AM (8 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 08 2021, @12:48AM (#1185349)

    How about punishing flight attendants for antagonizing passengers on purpose.

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  • (Score: 1, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 08 2021, @01:47AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 08 2021, @01:47AM (#1185373)

    Coffee, Tea, Taser?

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 08 2021, @05:05PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 08 2021, @05:05PM (#1185568)

    There are two sides to every incident. It is always assumed that the passenger is the aggressor. The airline industry has no customer service, they appear to encouraged to escalate any interaction with passengers. They just can't wait to create an incident that gets on the news so they can make an example of someone who is just minding their own business just trying to get from here to there.

  • (Score: 2) by Tork on Friday October 08 2021, @08:18PM

    by Tork (3914) on Friday October 08 2021, @08:18PM (#1185614)
    The term for that is 'firing', and airlines don't-not-do that because they don't want paying customers pissed off by their own employees.

    Honestly if you're going to make up shit to blindly defend shitheaded behaviour at least try to be a little more plausible about it. Like maybe it's the vaccinated people acting crazy because at crusing altitude is higher than the range of 5G.... wait wtf am I telling obvious trolls how to be less obvious.
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  • (Score: 3, Interesting) by edIII on Friday October 08 2021, @08:45PM (4 children)

    by edIII (791) on Friday October 08 2021, @08:45PM (#1185620)

    You mean by asking people to wear a mask during a pandemic to protect themselves and others? Amazing how that became synonymous with "I'm going to fuck your mother in the ass, and then give you the Dirty Sanchez".

    Perhaps those that feel antagonized are simply wipped up by Fox News and the fallacies surrounding COVID and the civilized behavior of wearing a protective mask during a pandemic? Just Maybe?

    For the record, I know what antagonized by the flight crew actually is. You don't have to handle it by causing a scene on a plane, but by simply speaking calmly to their supervisor at an appropriate time. What's the worst thing you have to deal with until then? Sitting down? I've had a single incident in a lifetime of flying. 99.99% of all my experience is with very nice and polite flight crews. I doubt that just suddenly changed, while we definitely see that overall customer behavior everywhere else has. Are restaurant employees all of the sudden antagonizing customers on purpose? Hair salons? Grocery Stores? Gas Stations? Walmarts?

    A lot of these people I see on the videos just need to grow up and act like civilized human beings.

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    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday October 09 2021, @12:56AM (3 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Saturday October 09 2021, @12:56AM (#1185675)

      I've had a single incident in a lifetime of flying. 99.99% of all my experience is with very nice and polite flight crews.

      Immerman has some interesting figures here;
      https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?noupdate=1&sid=45369&page=1&cid=1185398#commentwrap [soylentnews.org]

      It may be extremely rare, but still be a significant problem if the overall rate of incidents is also rare. You said you have seen a single incident of staff behaving badly, how many instances of passengers causing incidents have you seen? It is the ratio that matters.

      • (Score: 2) by edIII on Saturday October 09 2021, @10:11PM (2 children)

        by edIII (791) on Saturday October 09 2021, @10:11PM (#1185848)

        I have never seen a passenger cause an incident in my life.

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        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday October 10 2021, @01:09PM (1 child)

          by Anonymous Coward on Sunday October 10 2021, @01:09PM (#1185914)

          So, low numbers, but unless you are being sarcastic, 100% of the incidents you have witnessed were caused by staff not passengers.

          • (Score: 2) by edIII on Monday October 11 2021, @06:35PM

            by edIII (791) on Monday October 11 2021, @06:35PM (#1186237)

            Okay. That's a single incident out of many decades of air travel. A single data point in maybe nearly a hundred flights.

            That doesn't lead me to believe in all of these videos we now see that the staff is at fault for directly provoking the situation. Especially, when I can hear the audio and it's about face masks. In these videos it's very easy to determine that the staff didn't cause it. Asking for a face mask to be worn is not causing the incident.

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