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Unruly passenger incidents rising again, FAA data shows:
FAA figures released Tuesday show more disruptions on commercial flights in the past week than any week in the past two and a half months.
The FAA says there were 128 new incidents reported by flight crews, bringing this year's total to 4,626 incidents. The new number is the highest weekly figure since the FAA started releasing weekly data on July 20.
About 72% of issues in the past week were over the federal transportation mask mandate, figures show.
[...] The agency has proposed more than $1 million in fines against unruly airline passengers this year.
One $45,000 fine announced in August was against a passenger accused of throwing his luggage at another passenger and, while lying on the aisle floor, "grabbing a flight attendant by the ankles and putting his head up her skirt."
Another passenger would not wear his face mask, the FAA, said, and "acted as though his hand was a gun and made a 'pew, pew' noise as if he was shooting a fellow passenger."
[...] Pekoske said 110 TSA officers have been assaulted this year.
Lots Of Talk About A Crackdown On America’s Air Rage Epidemic—But Not Enough Action:
Among the most egregious incidents: Last December, a Delta Air Lines passenger tried to open the cockpit door mid-flight and struck a flight attendant in the face before being restrained by crew members and a fellow passenger. On an Alaska Airlines flight in March, a Colorado man who refused to wear a face mask swatted at a flight attendant, then stood up and urinated in his seat area. In May, a Southwest Airlines passenger punched out a flight attendant’s teeth after being told to keep her seat belt fastened.
[...] The threat of four- and five-figure fines has not tamped down unruly behavior on planes. “Civil penalties alone are failing to deter criminal activity by airline passengers,” [...]
[...] The airline industry, meanwhile, says this is a job for the Department of Justice. “We believe that the United States Government is well equipped to prosecute unruly and disruptive onboard behavior,” [...]
What, if anything, should be done, or could improve the situation?
(Score: -1, Troll) by Runaway1956 on Friday October 08 2021, @01:41AM (28 children)
Get off the passenger's asses, and clean up the airline industry. Start by getting rid of the TSA. Security theater might amuse some of you but it's all bullshit. Then, go after the airlines. Remind them, "The customer is always right!" Ohhhhhh, but there's a PANDEMIC!!! So what? It's not the airline's job to fight pandemics. Once again - it's necessary to quarantine, or it's not. We've chosen to not quarantine - get over yourselves with all the silly posturing. Kid (toddler, small child, teen, whatever) won't wear a mask? Cool - ignore him. An adult won't wear a mask? Again, ignore him. Remind him, maybe, that masks make people safer, then ignore him. It's just not that big a deal.
Damned sheep just keep taking shit from government, from corporations, and from any authority figure in sight.
Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
(Score: -1, Flamebait) by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 08 2021, @02:28AM (3 children)
Yep...what I said above. It's the poor republican that hates America and anyone not pure white. Careful there runny, your white sheet and peaked white pillow case is now out in the open.
(Score: 2, Flamebait) by ChrisMaple on Friday October 08 2021, @03:12AM (2 children)
If you cant' provide a reputable source of statistics for your claim that white Republicans are causing a disproportionate fraction of the airplane violence, STFU.
(Score: -1, Flamebait) by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 08 2021, @02:50PM
It says so in the BIBLE, so you STFU, you commie Putin-patsy Republican. God, I miss the days when Republicans hated the Russians...
(Score: 2) by Tork on Friday October 08 2021, @08:25PM
Slashdolt Logic: "25 year old jokes about sharks and lasers are +5, Funny." 💩
(Score: 2) by krishnoid on Friday October 08 2021, @02:46AM (2 children)
Or per The Forbes Article linked above, have the flight attendant's, you know, *union* renegotiate their contract terms to require better physical safeguards for the flight attendants.
(Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Friday October 08 2021, @03:46AM (1 child)
Now you're on to something. How about every "seat" be surrounded by a metal cage? The stewardess locks you into your cage during boarding, and unlocks you after landing. What could possibly go wrong?
Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
(Score: 2) by krishnoid on Friday October 08 2021, @11:58PM
That's a great idea! Nobody would be able to ... oh wait, they'd probably not get cell phone/Wi-Fi reception that way. Then you'd *really* see air rage.
(Score: 5, Insightful) by Immerman on Friday October 08 2021, @02:59AM
Actually the customer is usually wrong - a lot of merchants are simply willing to humor idiots in order to get their hands on those sweet, sweet dollars.
(Score: 4, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 08 2021, @03:20AM (2 children)
> won't wear a mask? Cool - ignore him
You are a moron.
Pathogens do not become harmless if you just pretend they are not there.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 08 2021, @03:47AM (1 child)
And, still, we mostly ignore you little ACs.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 08 2021, @11:55AM
And that is why you remain pathetically ignorant.
(Score: 4, Insightful) by khallow on Friday October 08 2021, @03:40AM (13 children)
So you acknowledge that businesses can mandate actions on the part of their passengers? Well, mask wearing is a mandated action. Don't fly if you don't like it.
(Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Friday October 08 2021, @03:49AM (12 children)
WTF did you get that nonsense? Quarantines don't come from businesses. Quarantines are mandated by health departments and government. You know - REAL quarantines. Something similar to what those convicts in 'Straya have done, but maybe even stricter.
Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
(Score: 1) by khallow on Friday October 08 2021, @04:56AM (11 children)
From what you wrote. When you mention quarantines in your false dilemma argument, you implicitly accepted that restrictions on freedom can be required to prevent the spread of disease.
Well, businesses can play that game too.
(Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Friday October 08 2021, @06:32AM (10 children)
Jesus. Fucking. Christ.
Where in the FUCK did you get the idea that some random jackass can tell me what to do, just because he owns some property, or some equipment, or a store front? The only choices Random Business Owner has in the pandemic, is to close his business, or cater to the people who come in the front door. Owning a business doesn't make you some kind of god. Not even a demigod, despite what Bezos says.
Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
(Score: 2, Informative) by khallow on Friday October 08 2021, @06:38AM
Because it's long been a standard exercise of freedom that random jackasses who happen to own businesses can establish rules, within reason, for people who choose to frequent their businesses. Here, airlines have a reasonable interest in preventing the spread of covid on their airlines. And well, mask wearing is part of the resulting strategy.
(Score: 1) by khallow on Friday October 08 2021, @07:04AM (2 children)
(Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Friday October 08 2021, @07:24AM (1 child)
That's loaded with goodies. "Within reason" - yes. Who determines "within reason"? Well the customers do!! And, "people who choose" to do business with them? Exactly.
Then, "people snap over this stuff."
Exactly.
Did I mention that owning a business doesn't turn you into a demigod? You don't become a little god even to your employees. Treat people decent, or be prepared for the torches and pitchforks. The natives are getting restless!
Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
(Score: 1) by khallow on Friday October 08 2021, @11:53AM
Which, of course, is not true. But even if it were, why would one passenger's wish to not wear a mask outweigh another passenger's wish that they do? Air flight shouldn't only be for covid spreaders, right?
(Score: 3, Insightful) by Opportunist on Friday October 08 2021, @08:25AM (5 children)
Because it is my store. My store, my rules. My property, my rules. You will follow them or you will continue your existence elsewhere, but not on my property where you are trespassing the exact moment you do not heed the rules that I require you to follow. If I require you to walk on your hands while on my property you will do so or you will not trespass on it.
Period.
(Score: 1, Troll) by Runaway1956 on Friday October 08 2021, @09:23AM (4 children)
That's understood. Do you also refuse to serve gays, blacks, midgets, and Muslims?
Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 08 2021, @09:54AM
If they don't walk on their hands, apparently yes. It's racist of you to suggest that the walking-on-hands requirement wouldn't apply equally to all patrons.
(Score: 2) by Opportunist on Friday October 08 2021, @11:33AM
If they're obnoxious pricks that are either bothersome or even harmful to other patrons, me or my property, yes.
Otherwise, why would I? Gay money is legal tender just like straight money.
(Score: 1) by nitehawk214 on Friday October 08 2021, @03:56PM
If they refuse to wear a mask, yea.
"Don't you ever miss the days when you used to be nostalgic?" -Loiosh
(Score: -1, Flamebait) by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 08 2021, @07:02PM
I just love when you think you're making some insightful point but only manage to show us all what a jackass you are. Keep crying little snowflake, the Mask Masters have agents surrounding your house this very minute! They also have a tracker on your car, so best take a bus to Tiajuana if you go on the run!
(Score: 5, Informative) by Mykl on Friday October 08 2021, @05:14AM (1 child)
You are aware that shutting a couple of hundred people into a cramped space with recirculated air results in a higher than average risk for COVID transmission, right?
(Score: 2) by number11 on Friday October 08 2021, @05:31PM
He doesn't care. He's the advocate for the disease spreaders.
(Score: 2) by dry on Friday October 08 2021, @05:59AM
The customer is not always right, at that, eliminating the worst customers can improve profits, as well as the well being of the employees, who hate dealing with that shit.