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posted by martyb on Thursday October 07 2021, @10:44PM   Printer-friendly
from the enhance-your-calm dept.

Unruly passenger incidents rising again, FAA data shows:

FAA figures released Tuesday show more disruptions on commercial flights in the past week than any week in the past two and a half months.

The FAA says there were 128 new incidents reported by flight crews, bringing this year's total to 4,626 incidents. The new number is the highest weekly figure since the FAA started releasing weekly data on July 20.

About 72% of issues in the past week were over the federal transportation mask mandate, figures show.

[...] The agency has proposed more than $1 million in fines against unruly airline passengers this year.

One $45,000 fine announced in August was against a passenger accused of throwing his luggage at another passenger and, while lying on the aisle floor, "grabbing a flight attendant by the ankles and putting his head up her skirt."

Another passenger would not wear his face mask, the FAA, said, and "acted as though his hand was a gun and made a 'pew, pew' noise as if he was shooting a fellow passenger."

[...] Pekoske said 110 TSA officers have been assaulted this year.

Lots Of Talk About A Crackdown On America’s Air Rage Epidemic—But Not Enough Action:

Among the most egregious incidents: Last December, a Delta Air Lines passenger tried to open the cockpit door mid-flight and struck a flight attendant in the face before being restrained by crew members and a fellow passenger. On an Alaska Airlines flight in March, a Colorado man who refused to wear a face mask swatted at a flight attendant, then stood up and urinated in his seat area. In May, a Southwest Airlines passenger punched out a flight attendant’s teeth after being told to keep her seat belt fastened.

[...] The threat of four- and five-figure fines has not tamped down unruly behavior on planes. “Civil penalties alone are failing to deter criminal activity by airline passengers,” [...]

[...] The airline industry, meanwhile, says this is a job for the Department of Justice. “We believe that the United States Government is well equipped to prosecute unruly and disruptive onboard behavior,” [...]

What, if anything, should be done, or could improve the situation?


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  • (Score: 5, Interesting) by edIII on Friday October 08 2021, @08:56PM (2 children)

    by edIII (791) on Friday October 08 2021, @08:56PM (#1185622)

    I don't fly already because of the TSA and the naked-porno-scanners becoming more forced. It certainly doesn't help that the odds of coming across some selfish ignorant anti-mask fucker is pretty good. Waiting until you hit ground only allows them to breathe pathogens into the common air for how long? These people need to understand they need to wear the mask 100% of the time, and if they don't follow instructions put them on the no-fly list until COVID is complete over.

    Now if I knew the planes wouldn't even lift off without compliance, and that being caught without a mask meant being on the no-fly list, I just might actually feel comfortable flying.

    That's why travel volumes have collapsed. Not because flight crews are mistreating people, but because it is DANGEROUS. I have clients/family/friends that have asked multiple times for me to come out and help them, even offering to pay for the flights, and my answer is an absolutely firm no.

    It's not just planes either. It's anywhere people normally congregated. Who's responsible for this? The venue operators? Employees? NO. It's the people that refuse to wear a piece of cloth on their faces to help fight a pandemic that is killing people and causing rationing of care in hospitals.

    I would rather have what remains destroyed, then get COVID on a flight because of some anti-masking mother fuckers. Fuck them. Fuck them with a saguaro cactus sideways. They are the reason I can't fly and won't see my family for at least another few years.

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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday October 09 2021, @03:59AM (1 child)

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday October 09 2021, @03:59AM (#1185708)

    You are willingly getting into a metal tube packed like sardines with your fellow humans and you think the little piece of loose-fitting paper is going to protect you from breathing in the virus. No, you are relying on either your natural immune system or else a vaccination. The little paper is not doing shit. But, you can't be a man and accept that you badly want to travel and are willing to risk getting sick, so you tell yourself it's not really a risk if everyone wears the little paper. WISHFUL THINKING. Be honest with yourself and stop being a coward about it.

    • (Score: 3, Insightful) by edIII on Saturday October 09 2021, @10:08PM

      by edIII (791) on Saturday October 09 2021, @10:08PM (#1185846)

      Ahh, yes the testosterone filled idiots speak. It's always about being a man right? That's some ignorant bravado bullshit completely bereft of any sophisticated intelligence and reason.

      It's not a little paper, and scientifically it makes a big fucking difference. Instead of your be-a-man argument, I'm going to respond with six layers of N99.9 (not N99.5) material with an active exhaust system using Ultraviolet-C light. Science mother fucker!

      You lack any sophisticated understanding and rely on your "balls" and false courage. It's LESS or a risk of everyone is wearing the "piece of paper". That's just science and reason. If all of exhales from everybody passes through at least a N99.5 filter, then the number of pathogens put into the common area is vastly lower then without it. If that common area has vastly lower pathogens in it, then again, the odds of inhaling a pathogen through the same said material is vastly lower. Being overly simplistic it's like having a 1/5 chance of winning something versus the chances found in any common state lottery. It's probably orders or magnitude less risk.

      So your manliness wants me to accept vastly higher risk because you're an asshole? No fuck you! :)

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