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posted by janrinok on Wednesday October 13 2021, @02:28PM   Printer-friendly
from the what-about-shift-workers dept.

UK Proposes Law To Switch Off EV Home Chargers During Peak Hours:

The United Kingdom plans to pass legislation that will see EV home and workplace chargers being switched off at peak times to avoid blackouts.

Announced by Transport Secretary Grant Shapps, the proposed law stipulates that electric car chargers installed at home or at the workplace may not function for up to nine hours a day to avoid overloading the national electricity grid.

As of May 30, 2022, new home and workplace chargers being installed must be "smart" chargers connected to the internet and able to employ pre-sets limiting their ability to function from 8 am to 11 am and 4 pm to 10 pm. However, users of home chargers will be able to override the pre-sets should they need to, although it's not clear how often they will be able to do that.

[...] In addition to the nine hours a day of downtime, authorities will be able to impose a "randomized delay" of 30 minutes on individual chargers in certain areas to prevent grid spikes at other times.


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  • (Score: 2) by JoeMerchant on Wednesday October 13 2021, @04:58PM (13 children)

    by JoeMerchant (3937) on Wednesday October 13 2021, @04:58PM (#1186696)

    Or, encourage people and localities to install their own clean generation sources and avoid grid dependency. Of course, this is the UK, so solar isn't a great option - though that hasn't deterred Deutschland.

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  • (Score: 3, Interesting) by DannyB on Wednesday October 13 2021, @05:00PM (8 children)

    by DannyB (5839) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday October 13 2021, @05:00PM (#1186698) Journal

    The UK could research how to generate electricity from rainfall.

    Or wave power. Or offshore windmills. Nevermind that Trump says that the sound from windmills causes cancer.

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    • (Score: -1, Offtopic) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday October 13 2021, @05:03PM (4 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday October 13 2021, @05:03PM (#1186700)

      You've got that long-TDS, Danny boy. You know it's going to interfere with your ability to do anything other than shitpost.

      • (Score: 5, Touché) by DannyB on Wednesday October 13 2021, @05:07PM (3 children)

        by DannyB (5839) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday October 13 2021, @05:07PM (#1186703) Journal

        I rarely mention him. But he did say what I described. What's the matter? Don't you take your own supreme being's warning seriously?

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        • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday October 13 2021, @05:09PM (1 child)

          by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday October 13 2021, @05:09PM (#1186704)

          I rarely mention him.

          So, you're practicing a comedy routine?

          • (Score: 2) by DannyB on Wednesday October 13 2021, @09:02PM

            by DannyB (5839) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday October 13 2021, @09:02PM (#1186782) Journal

            Talking about covid, vaccines, and various political topics is not an express or implied mention of the T one who shall not be named.

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        • (Score: 1, Flamebait) by JoeMerchant on Wednesday October 13 2021, @06:12PM

          by JoeMerchant (3937) on Wednesday October 13 2021, @06:12PM (#1186720)

          Hard to tell if the windmill caused cancer in the bird or not, when the bird has been smacked out of the air 200' above ground and plummets to a grisly death below.

          Too bad carrot top doesn't insist on implementing his own big brained ideas on himself...

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    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday October 14 2021, @11:15PM (2 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Thursday October 14 2021, @11:15PM (#1187147)

      Parent said:
      "The UK could research how to generate electricity from rainfall."

      It's called a DAM.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday October 14 2021, @11:21PM (1 child)

        by Anonymous Coward on Thursday October 14 2021, @11:21PM (#1187149)

        -nomsg

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday October 14 2021, @11:25PM

          by Anonymous Coward on Thursday October 14 2021, @11:25PM (#1187152)

          Note: Author of parent reply and grandparent reply are same AC: me.
          "re-read" scans the same as re-red or re-reed.

  • (Score: 2) by Nuke on Thursday October 14 2021, @12:50PM (3 children)

    by Nuke (3162) on Thursday October 14 2021, @12:50PM (#1186953)

    Or, encourage people and localities to install their own clean generation sources and avoid grid dependency.

    The same problem will remain.

    • (Score: 2) by JoeMerchant on Thursday October 14 2021, @01:15PM (2 children)

      by JoeMerchant (3937) on Thursday October 14 2021, @01:15PM (#1186957)

      The same problem will remain.

      Not if independent owners of generation and storage capacity are allowed to determine what to do with that capacity: use or share.

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      • (Score: 3, Insightful) by Nuke on Thursday October 14 2021, @04:28PM (1 child)

        by Nuke (3162) on Thursday October 14 2021, @04:28PM (#1187009)

        The problem is not with bureaucrats dreaming up arbitrary rules, it is with physical capacity. Generate how you like, centrally or locally, but if everyone wants to charge their cars at the same time (and they will) you will need a larger capacity than if the loading is spread out timewise.

        • (Score: 2) by JoeMerchant on Thursday October 14 2021, @05:20PM

          by JoeMerchant (3937) on Thursday October 14 2021, @05:20PM (#1187025)

          I suspect that self-owned or even locally owned generation and storage capacity would tend to grow to meet time-spike needs faster than a national grid that "feels" that it should be able to spread the load by passing regulations. Also, if excess capacity in local generation can be sold into a wide area grid with storage, that could be a very good model for how to use a large grid in the future.

          Florida and Houston Texas must have high baseline loads or something, because I have never experienced "demand pricing" for electricity in my life in either place. I do think if generation decentralized, the remaining central grid would get more extreme with demand pricing due to the fact that it would be used less, and probably "spikier", so the demand pricing should reflect that. Good? Bad? matter of opinion.

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