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posted by LaminatorX on Saturday October 25 2014, @02:41PM   Printer-friendly
from the whining-is-not-efficacious dept.

A grave bug has been introduced into the "wine" package of Debian Jessie, just days before the November 5th freeze deadline. The /usr/bin/wine launch script fails with an "error: unable to find wine executable. this shouldn't happen." message.

Debian has already suffered much unrest lately over the inclusion of systemd, with threats of a fork being issued, along with the possible cancellation of the GNU/kFreeBSD port and the possible dropping of support for the SPARC architecture. After so much strife and disruption, can Debian afford to have such a serious bug affect such a critical package so soon before such a major freeze?

 
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  • (Score: 2, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday October 25 2014, @03:05PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday October 25 2014, @03:05PM (#109928)

    Well, a browser that has only about 11% of the browser market [caniuse.com], down from a peak of over 35% a few years earlier, with an ever-falling downward trend, is pretty much the definition of "dead".

    Firefox was "ill" when it dropped from 35% to 30%. It was "dying" when it dropped from 30% to 20%. It was "dead" when it dropped below 20%.

    It's losing existing users, without really gaining any new users. That means that there is no hope of recovery, which means that death has occurred.

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  • (Score: 3, Informative) by HiThere on Saturday October 25 2014, @06:32PM

    by HiThere (866) on Saturday October 25 2014, @06:32PM (#110033) Journal

    The word isn't dead, it's moribund. There have been recoveries from a moribund state, there have never, outside of fiction, been any recoveries from dead.

    --
    Javascript is what you use to allow unknown third parties to run software you have no idea about on your computer.
    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday October 25 2014, @08:50PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Saturday October 25 2014, @08:50PM (#110070)

      It's safe to say that Firefox is dead. There's no way they can recover at this point, and even if they possibly could, everything so far indicates that Mozilla just isn't willing to attempt this.

      Firefox is just going to remain dead. The last remaining users will bleed off soon enough.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday October 26 2014, @03:50AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Sunday October 26 2014, @03:50AM (#110156)

        Has Netcraft confirmed it?

  • (Score: 1) by mathinker on Saturday October 25 2014, @09:57PM

    by mathinker (3463) on Saturday October 25 2014, @09:57PM (#110087)

    Gee, I'd always associated "dead" with "not being actively developed", not something having to do with market share. So this means that increasing diversity in a particular application niche eventually causes all of the applications in that niche to "die", rather than being a reflection of healthiness?

    That's just bizarre.

    • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday October 25 2014, @10:44PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Saturday October 25 2014, @10:44PM (#110097)

      What they are describing is a lack of genetic diversity. [wikipedia.org]

      When you have a winner-take-all environment, really bad things happen. [wikipedia.org]
      It's amazing how we don't learn from the past. [wikipedia.org]

      Monocultures are not something to be admired.
      Straight-line first-past-the-post capitalist "thinkers" are so boring.

      -- gewg_

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday October 25 2014, @11:04PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Saturday October 25 2014, @11:04PM (#110099)

      Firefox has no future. That's the same as being dead. It doesn't matter how many developers are working on it. If nobody actually uses it, and the number of users left is indeed approaching zero, then it's a dead project. Firefox is meeting that criteria.

      • (Score: 1) by mathinker on Sunday October 26 2014, @07:10PM

        by mathinker (3463) on Sunday October 26 2014, @07:10PM (#110293)

        Nah, it's just pining for the users!

        (It seems that humor is a more worthwhile reply than trying to actually reason with a post which just reiterated the points I addressed rather than actually adding something to the conversation.)