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https://www.devuan.org/os/announce/chimaera-release-announce-2021-10-14
Dear Friends and Software Freedom Lovers,
Devuan Developers are pleased to announce the release of Devuan Chimaera
4.0 as the project's newest stable release. This is the result of lots of
painstaking work by the team and extensive testing by the wider Devuan
community.What's new in Chimaera 4.0?
* Based on Debian Bullseye (11.1) with Linux kernel 5.10.
* Your choice of init: sysvinit, runit, and OpenRC.
* Improved desktop support - virtually all desktop environments available
in Debian are now part of Devuan, systemd-free.
* New boot, display manager and desktop theming.
* Enhanced accessibility: installation via GUI or console can now be
accomplished via software or hardware speech synthesis, or using a
refreshable braille display, and Devuan Chimaera has the ability to
install desktop environments without PulseAudio, allowing speech
synthesis in both console and GUI sessions at the same time.
"without PulseAudio", eh? Speculations on the reason for that are welcome, he asked them knowingly... -- Ed.
(Score: 3, Insightful) by Mockingbird on Friday October 15 2021, @07:15AM (4 children)
I am curious how you can ask this, after you laid out the problems with pulseaudio, which after all is the mother of systemd.
(Score: 3, Informative) by Rosco P. Coltrane on Friday October 15 2021, @07:55AM (3 children)
Well, I find systemd rather pleasant to work with and fairly stable. I mean sure, it has features that I dislike - chief of which are the non-plain-text logging and Poettering himself - but on the whole, I like the way it journals things, I like service files... I'm probably not enough of a power user to have a real informed opinion about it, but for what I do and the few packages I maintain, it's flexible and it just works.
Pulseaudio on the other hand... I don't care about it. I just needed it to do one trivial thing and it got in my way and wasted an entire afternoon. And yes... Poettering.
It goes to show that the same guy can code something I rather like and another thing I profoundly dislike. What a concept eh? :)
Bear in mind that I have nothing for or against either of those software packages. This is just my experience.
(Score: 5, Funny) by srobert on Friday October 15 2021, @03:51PM
"sure, it has features that I dislike - chief of which are the non-plain-text logging and Poettering himself"
LOL. I didn't know that Poettering was a "feature" of systemd. Some might say he was the bug of it.
(Score: 4, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 15 2021, @05:07PM
I've never had an interaction with SystemD that was pleasant. I've had plenty that were decidedly not. Diagnosing an unbootable system wasn't fun with initd, but it is nearly impossible with SystemD, happens much more frequently, and always turns out to be SystemD's fault.
(Score: 2) by edIII on Monday October 18 2021, @07:01PM
To each his own I guess, but SystemD introduces a whole lot of bullshit that just isn't necessary. I'm looking for security first, so I can't find a whole lot of trust in SystemD at this time. Maybe in 20 years if the code base was thoroughly vetted, but I doubt that will happen and keep up with all the new code.
That's why I like OpenBSD, because of the philosophy, the relative security provided by the code.
It's not that I hate SystemD, it's that I can't trust it for mission critical systems, infrastructure, and security. For a desktop OS being protected by all of that? Maybe.
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