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https://www.devuan.org/os/announce/chimaera-release-announce-2021-10-14
Dear Friends and Software Freedom Lovers,
Devuan Developers are pleased to announce the release of Devuan Chimaera
4.0 as the project's newest stable release. This is the result of lots of
painstaking work by the team and extensive testing by the wider Devuan
community.What's new in Chimaera 4.0?
* Based on Debian Bullseye (11.1) with Linux kernel 5.10.
* Your choice of init: sysvinit, runit, and OpenRC.
* Improved desktop support - virtually all desktop environments available
in Debian are now part of Devuan, systemd-free.
* New boot, display manager and desktop theming.
* Enhanced accessibility: installation via GUI or console can now be
accomplished via software or hardware speech synthesis, or using a
refreshable braille display, and Devuan Chimaera has the ability to
install desktop environments without PulseAudio, allowing speech
synthesis in both console and GUI sessions at the same time.
"without PulseAudio", eh? Speculations on the reason for that are welcome, he asked them knowingly... -- Ed.
(Score: 2) by Marand on Saturday October 16 2021, @03:39AM (2 children)
There are some good things about how it works, so it's possible, I just wouldn't expect it any time soon. We just need Poettering to move on so better devs can fix things. I'd still rather have had just about any of the other sysv-init alternatives, but whatever, I don't hate it. I just don't trust it to be reliable yet.
One thing about systemd that I will say is just unequivocally better than other options is systemd-nspawn [archlinux.org]. It's basically a super simple and convenient way of doing chroots, except it does better/more than chroots and is closer to being a dead-simple way of doing containers. I use it alongside qemu-user-static [debian.org] (which does user-mode binary translation, e.g. translating armhf Linux binaries to amd64 on-the-fly) to mount a raspberry pi disk image to a directory, containerise it with systemd-nspawn, and then run the ARM binaries via qemu-user-static. Beats trying to set up a proper VM (which is a pain in the ass for ARM stuff) and is great for compiling shit to put on a low-powered Pi Zero later.
Point is, it's a better replacement for old-school chroot creation with better results and less ceremony. Can't say much good about other systemd-foo projects, but that one is actually good.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday October 16 2021, @06:40PM
i won't try to argue with people about the possible security risks of systemd, but i haven't had any reliability problems with it once it's been set up correctly and known working. Most of it is nice to use too. That being said, i'm liking OpenBSD lately.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday October 17 2021, @08:49PM
Basic problem is that systemd, unlike say pulseaudio or avahi, is that it is a unbounded project. Anything can potentially be made a sub-project of systemd, up to and including the kernel itself (watch it happen after GKH is formally handed control by Torvalds, as he already allowed his butter Sievers to fold udev into it).