Windows 11 hardware requirements made a mockery of by an Intel Pentium 4 processor
As the screenshots below show, Microsoft considers the Intel Pentium 4 661 a supported processor. Intel released the Pentium 4 661 in early 2006, with a solitary core to its name. Apparently, Microsoft forgot to add any Intel Family 15 (Netburst) SKUs in its unsupported processors list for Windows 11.
Hence, the PC Health Check tool sees that the Pentium 4 661 has a 3.6 GHz boost clock, which satisfies one of Windows 11's requirements. Curiously, the tool states that the Pentium 4 661 has two or more cores, even though it lists it as having one.
@Carlos_SM1995 has even got Windows 11 (Build 22000.258) running on a Pentium 4 661. Supposedly, Windows Update still works too, highlighting the ridiculousness of Microsoft's overtures regarding Windows 11 compatibility.
Windows 11 final (Build 22000.258) running on Intel Pentium 4 (11m4s video)
(Score: 2, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday October 19 2021, @11:59AM (12 children)
And when done as clumsily as this, it is a clear-cut abuse of the monopoly, isn't it?
(Score: 4, Insightful) by mcgrew on Tuesday October 19 2021, @01:38PM (11 children)
When haven't they abused their monopoly? Clinton's DOJ filed suit, Bush's DOJ let them go.
When I checked for updates on my little Dell laptop it informed me it won't run W11. I just bought that damned thing two years ago!
Carbon, The only element in the known universe to ever gain sentience
(Score: 3, Interesting) by Freeman on Tuesday October 19 2021, @03:13PM (5 children)
Don't worry, my new hotness (just over a year old) shows Windows 11 incompatibilities as well:
ASUS AM4 TUF Gaming X570-Plus
AMD Ryzen 5 3rd Gen - RYZEN 5 3600 Matisse (Zen 2) 6-Core 3.6 GHz
G.SKILL Trident Z Neo (For AMD Ryzen) Series 32GB (2 x 16GB) 288-Pin RGB DDR4 SDRAM DDR4 3600 (PC4 28800) Desktop Memory
Silicon Power 1TB NVMe PCIe Gen3 x4 M.2 2280 TLC SSD (SP001TBP34A60M28)
GIGABYTE GeForce GTX 1650 OC 4G Graphics Card
Windows 10 Pro 64-bit
I run VR games on that thing and it works well. There is literally no reason my machine shouldn't work with the new OS. Except, Microsoft is greedy.
I wanted to upgrade to a bit nicer GPU, but haven't been able to due to the really screwed up pricing for newer GPUs. Also was thinking about upgrading to a 5000 series CPU, but money, money, money. Also, I don't have a need for anything better, thus the money aspect keeps winning.
Joshua 1:9 "Be strong and of a good courage; be not afraid, neither be thou dismayed: for the Lord thy God is with thee"
(Score: 2) by Gaaark on Tuesday October 19 2021, @06:35PM (3 children)
Holy shite: it won't run on THAT?
Why do people give MS their money?
Seriously. Dump dat shit. Just refuse. Get a new job or whatever.
Just. Refuse.
--- Please remind me if I haven't been civil to you: I'm channeling MDC. ---Gaaark 2.0 ---
(Score: 4, Interesting) by Marand on Wednesday October 20 2021, @12:52AM (2 children)
Probably TPM- or SecureBoot-related. Maybe doesn't have SB enabled or the motherboard needs a hardware TPM.
Mine's even funnier:
* Ryzen 7 1700 (8c/16t) OC'd to all-core 3.7ghz
* 64GB (4x 16GB sticks) RAM
* Nvidia GTX 1070 Ti (8GB)
* Nvidia GTX 1060 (6GB)
* 1TB nvme + 512GB SSD + multiple TB of traditional storage.
* I also have the necessary TPM support because my motherboard happens to support it, though I never knew/cared.
Should be more than enough to run Windows 11, right? Nope, because none of that matters; Microsoft arbitrarily decided that the first-gen Ryzen chips aren't supported, regardless of hardware capability. I can (and do) run Windows 10 in a VM and even there, with only a fraction of the my system's full resources, Windows has higher specs than many PCs in use: I give it 6c/12t, 24GB of RAM, and pass through the GTX 1070 Ti. Yet I still couldn't install Windows 11 if I wanted because I failed to meet some arbitrary cut-off point.
I don't run Windows on bare metal and don't intend to start doing so, so I don't actually care that it "fails", but I think it's hilarious that I'd have to throw all this hardware out if I wanted to install Windows 11.
(Score: 3, Touché) by Reziac on Wednesday October 20 2021, @02:54AM
It's a little bizarre considering it's not that different from Win10, which runs perfectly well on my 13 year old AMD that was never much to start with. So, yeah, it ain't the CPU.
And there is no Alkibiades to come back and save us from ourselves.
(Score: 2) by Freeman on Wednesday October 20 2021, @01:32PM
My wife's computer:
MSI B350 TOMAHAWK AM4
AMD Ryzen 7 1st Gen - RYZEN 7 1700 Summit Ridge (Zen) 8-Core 3.0 GHz
Mushkin Enhanced Reactor 2.5" 1TB SATA III MLC
G.SKILL Ripjaws V Series 32GB (2 x 16GB) 288-Pin DDR4 SDRAM DDR4 2400
Some version of a Radeon RX 480 4GB/8GB.
Win 10 Pro 64-bit
Supposedly, it would support the Ryzen 5 3600, which is supported by Win11. Not sure, if the MB would be supported or not, it probably would just squeak in, if I upgrade my computer to a 5000 and drop my 3600 CPU into this thing. Still, I'm much more likely to burn the Microsoft bridge, because they're not getting better.
Joshua 1:9 "Be strong and of a good courage; be not afraid, neither be thou dismayed: for the Lord thy God is with thee"
(Score: 2) by Freeman on Wednesday October 20 2021, @01:47PM
That whole setup cost me about $1,250 with everything, PSU (Platinum 750 Watt 10yr warranty), Case, Fans, etc. (Ryzen 5 3rd gen setup, 6-core CPU)
While my wife's setup cost me about $1,670 with everything. (Ryzen 7 1st gen setup, 8-core CPU)
There was no real difference between the Ryzen 7 and the Ryzen 5 performance wise. They both ran all my VR experience stuff and things like Space Engineers just fine. The Ryzen 5 probably stays a bit cooler overall and doesn't use as much of the CPU, though. For a while I was running a VR game for kiddo to play (VR Zoo is the favorite) and a game for me to play at the same time. I think I still can, but I have to launch the desktop game first, otherwise it wants to launch the desktop game in VR.
Joshua 1:9 "Be strong and of a good courage; be not afraid, neither be thou dismayed: for the Lord thy God is with thee"
(Score: 2) by JoeMerchant on Wednesday October 20 2021, @02:08AM (4 children)
That's bordering on an iOS experience. Did you pay a premium for it?
Україна досі не є частиною Росії Слава Україні🌻 https://news.stanford.edu/2023/02/17/will-russia-ukraine-war-end
(Score: 2) by mcgrew on Friday October 22 2021, @05:39PM (3 children)
No, a cheap Dell notebook I bought from Amazon.
Carbon, The only element in the known universe to ever gain sentience
(Score: 2) by JoeMerchant on Friday October 22 2021, @06:14PM (2 children)
Mmmmm... then you're not getting the full ego stroke of the fruity product purchasers, not only do they get to always show the latest bling, they know that everybody who sees them with that bling knows that they pay dearly for it. According to this: https://www.statista.com/statistics/236031/market-share-of-ios-in-global-smartphone-os-shipments/ [statista.com] about 14% of the world really gets off on that kind of thing.
Україна досі не є частиною Росії Слава Україні🌻 https://news.stanford.edu/2023/02/17/will-russia-ukraine-war-end
(Score: 2) by mcgrew on Monday October 25 2021, @06:35PM (1 child)
I never was impressed with bling, and considering borrowing money to look rich to be very stupid. That's probably those who ate in the lowest 14th percentile of IQ range.
Carbon, The only element in the known universe to ever gain sentience
(Score: 2) by JoeMerchant on Monday October 25 2021, @08:45PM
There's all kinds of intelligence, and in some ways posturing with bling gains acceptance with certain people, which can be valuable in all kinds of ways. I worked for one of those, once for about a year - we didn't part on the best of terms.
Україна досі не є частиною Росії Слава Україні🌻 https://news.stanford.edu/2023/02/17/will-russia-ukraine-war-end