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Nikolas Cruz pleads guilty to murder charges and apologizes for Parkland high school massacre

Nikolas Cruz, the gunman who carried out the massacre of students and faculty members at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School in February 2018, pleaded guilty in a Florida courtroom Wednesday to 17 counts of murder and 17 counts of attempted murder.

Cruz, 23, faces a minimum of life in prison and maximum of the death penalty, which will be decided by a jury in the upcoming sentencing phase of the trial. The prosecution has said they plan to seek the death penalty.

See also:
Gunman Pleads Guilty in Parkland School Shooting
Nikolas Cruz pleads guilty to all charges in 2018 Parkland massacre
5 things to know before Parkland school shooting change of plea hearing

It is good that the perpetrator of such a crime may be brought to justice.

I remember after the Columbine school shootings when it was promised that this would never be allowed to happen again. Unfortunately, our country strives to make it easy for children to access firearms unsupervised.

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Marjorie Taylor Greene mocked Parkland survivor in unearthed video: An 'idiot' who's trained 'like a dog'

Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene, R-Ga., mocked a Florida school shooting survivor as an "idiot" who "only talks when he is scripted" in a 2019 interview with a Georgia gun group, according to a previously unreported video obtained by NBC News.

"He is very trained. He's like a dog. He's completely trained," Greene said of the survivor, David Hogg, now 20, in an interview with Georgia Gun Owners Inc. in April 2019, less than two years before she was elected to Congress.

Videos of Greene, a freshman Republican, berating Hogg in Washington surfaced last week after she was appointed to the House Education and Labor Committee. House Democrats are pushing to bar her from serving on any committees, citing in part her previous statements suggesting that the shootings at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School in Parkland, Florida, and at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Connecticut, were hoaxes.

How do people like this come to power? Where do they find voters who will vote for such people? Does this only happen in the USA? I feel confident that the good people of her voting district in Georgia will continue to re-elect her.

I like her "Trump Won" mask, now that it is abundantly clear he did not win after many lawsuits and audits later.

It is amazing to live in a time when people will believe the most ridiculous outlandish things without any critical thought. People can no longer tell fact from fantasy. Or facts simply do not matter.

Update: A prediction: Trump will win in 2024. Yes, really.

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  • (Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Wednesday October 20 2021, @11:33PM (10 children)

    by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday October 20 2021, @11:33PM (#1189012) Homepage Journal

    If that is treason then the 1/6 insurrection should result in the death penalty for all the criminals involved,

    What? You're ready to be consistent? We can just execute ALL the criminals? Good - let's look at all the available video, and start grabbing every sumbitch who started a fire, or threw an explosive during the 2020 Summer of Love. There are literally hundreds of them for the taking - maybe thousands.

    Your 1) 2) 3) and 4) are taken from some fantasy story you read. Kyle was threatened and assaulted when he extinguished a dumpster fire. Said dumpster fire was intended to be rolled through the glass front of the gas station. Kyle prevented an arson, and was assaulted. He killed a lowlife in self defense. Afterward, he was chased by a mob screaming for his blood. He was assaulted AND BATTERED by the second dead guy. Kyle was assaulted with a deadly weapon by the third guy, who survived.

    Get your facts straight. You haven't complained about the rioters who were carrying weapons, have you? Why not? Only libruls should have guns?

    Consistency. Try to get some - and not just on the toilet.

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  • (Score: 4, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday October 21 2021, @01:02AM (4 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday October 21 2021, @01:02AM (#1189033)

    Liberals are fully consistent, but you like to pretend otherwise. You are a hypocrite that defends traitors. Do facts hurt your feefees? Maybe if you dealt with your problems instead of projecting them on to others we could have actual discussions. As for the incel / future wife beater / murderer kyle I would hope that you wouldn't support murdering someone because they try to burn down a building.

    I will say thanks for acknoedging that 1/6 was an insurrection and the criminals should be punished ;^)

    • (Score: 2, Informative) by khallow on Thursday October 21 2021, @04:28AM (3 children)

      by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Thursday October 21 2021, @04:28AM (#1189082) Journal

      I would hope that you wouldn't support murdering someone because they try to burn down a building.

      I wouldn't support calling it "murder". Here's the Wikipedia description [wikipedia.org] of the incident.

      Protesters were recorded on video pushing a burning dumpster through a crowd, towards a gas station. A guard, dressed in similar clothing to Rittenhouse – a green shirt, cap, and bag – put out the dumpster fire, which enraged Rosenbaum, who shouted at the guard. More arson took place and was recorded on video. Someone with identical features to Rittenhouse – having the same build, clothing, and rifle; and also wearing brown shoes, blue gloves, and an orange medical kit – was then seen running with a fire extinguisher. According to Rittenhouse's defense attorneys, the person with the fire extinguisher was indeed Rittenhouse, and what was not recorded on video was that he used it to put out one of the fires, which provoked a confrontation by Rosenbaum, who mistook Rittenhouse for the guard who had put out the dumpster fire earlier.

      So first, pushing a burning dumpster towards a gas station with innocent people about? To me, that'd be a good case for self defense as far as I'm concerned, were it when the shooting occurred. It is after a classic example of callous disregard for human life - a common criteria for murder (when it results in someone's death). But as it turns out, this is not when the shootings occurred.

      The beginning of the first confrontation between Rittenhouse and Rosenbaum was witnessed by McGinniss to whom it seemed that Rosenbaum and other protesters were moving toward Rittenhouse, who was trying to evade them; Rosenbaum then tried to "engage" Rittenhouse, but Rittenhouse managed to avoid this by sidestepping and running away.[6][39]

      The remainder of Rosenbaum's confrontation, and the following incidents with Huber and Grosskreutz, were recorded in cellphone footage from multiple angles, including the moments of the shooting.[40] Video footage showed Rittenhouse being pursued across a parking lot by Rosenbaum,[28] who threw something in Rittenhouse's direction,[41][39] identified as a plastic bag.[6] As Rittenhouse was running from Rosenbaum, two shots could be heard, one from an unknown third party, fired for an unknown reason, and one from Joshua Ziminski, who fired a self-described "warning shot" into the air,[42] causing Rittenhouse to stop running and turn towards the sound of Ziminski's shot.[28] McGinniss stated that the sound of the shot was the moment Rittenhouse "went from running away to aiming his weapon."[42]

      Then, according to Kenosha County prosecutors, Rosenbaum engaged Rittenhouse and tried to take his rifle from him.[43][44][5] Rittenhouse then fired four shots, hitting Rosenbaum in the groin, back, and left hand. The bullets fractured Rosenbaum's pelvis, perforated his right lung and liver, and caused additional minor wounds to his left thigh and forehead.[45] Rittenhouse remained near Rosenbaum as McGinniss began administering first aid. Rittenhouse then made a phone call and was heard saying "I just killed somebody," and then fled as more protesters arrived.[5] Rosenbaum died shortly afterwards.

      So a violent mob chasing a person around - who was trying to get away from them - and then one member of that mob trying to take his firearm away? That's self defense. Glancing at descriptions of the other two shootings indicates they were valid self defense as well.

      The real solution is for these protesters to learn what triggers self defense kills, and then not do that. Since such shootings were rare that year, I gather most people figured that part out.

      • (Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday October 23 2021, @03:52AM (2 children)

        by Anonymous Coward on Saturday October 23 2021, @03:52AM (#1189819)

        Well you're a willful idiot that can't even bring themselves to see the treason committed by GOP terrorists. Only the other rightwingers around here give your posts any shred of credibility.

        • (Score: 1) by khallow on Sunday October 24 2021, @12:54PM (1 child)

          by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Sunday October 24 2021, @12:54PM (#1190067) Journal

          Well you're a willful idiot that can't even bring themselves to see the treason committed by GOP terrorists.

          Where's the evidence?

          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday October 24 2021, @04:49PM

            by Anonymous Coward on Sunday October 24 2021, @04:49PM (#1190121)

            You don't need evidence if you Follow the Science [econlib.org]. It's kind of like a religion where everyone wears knitted pink hats and a frown, and you're not allowed to question the dogma.

  • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday October 21 2021, @03:41AM (4 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday October 21 2021, @03:41AM (#1189070)

    What? You're ready to be consistent? We can just execute ALL the criminals? Good - let's look at all the available video, and start grabbing every sumbitch who started a fire, or threw an explosive during the 2020 Summer of Love. There are literally hundreds of them for the taking - maybe thousands.

    Consistent you say? I recall the discussions we had here on SN, every liberal user repeatedly said that any rioter destroying property should be arrested. Maybe you got confused by people also condemning the police for attacking protesters exercising their constitutional rights? You're old, confusion is to be expected, but not excused when you're trying to go full fascist.

    • (Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Thursday October 21 2021, @07:08AM (3 children)

      by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Thursday October 21 2021, @07:08AM (#1189108) Homepage Journal

      every liberal user repeatedly said that any rioter destroying property should be arrested.

      Your memory is faulty. Some SN liberals suggested that it was alright to arrest rioters. Others have been full-blown Black Shirt Nazi supporters, defending the lasers being shined into police officer's eyes, setting buildings on fire, their use of incindiaries, and assaults on police as well as innocent bystanders. That old man who was beaten nearly to death in Kenosha got a number of comments from (mostly AC) lefties who seemed to think he deserved it. He probably would have died, if a more kind-hearted protester hadn't stepped in to save him.

      If you support the Summer of Love rioters, you and I disagree, but maybe I can respect you if you draw the line at illegal acts. Others here deserve no respect, because they're perfectly happy to see cities burning.

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      • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday October 21 2021, @08:06AM (2 children)

        by Anonymous Coward on Thursday October 21 2021, @08:06AM (#1189124)

        Little River Sheriffs Department has the name, address, and all relevant postings to SN. The arc of history is long, but it tends towards Runway in the Hoosegow.

        • (Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Thursday October 21 2021, @08:45AM (1 child)

          by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Thursday October 21 2021, @08:45AM (#1189131) Homepage Journal

          Keep wishing, aristapholococcus.

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          • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 22 2021, @10:49AM

            by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 22 2021, @10:49AM (#1189565)

            No, seriously, they are watching you, Runaway, I saw it on the FBI feed from the Fusion network that passes through my workplace.