Stories
Slash Boxes
Comments

SoylentNews is people

posted by martyb on Thursday November 04 2021, @08:45PM   Printer-friendly
from the hot-and-toasty dept.

Intel's Alder Lake big.LITTLE CPU design, tested: It's a barn burner:

After spending several days with Intel's newest consumer CPU designs, we have some surprising news: they're faster than AMD's latest Ryzens on both single-threaded and most multithreaded benchmarks.

We suspect this will be especially surprising to some, since Intel's newest desktop CPUs feature a hybrid "big.little[sic]" design similar to those found in ARM CPUs. AMD's flagship Ryzen 9 5950x is a traditional 16 core, 32 thread design, with all cores being "big" high-performance types with symmetric multithreading (SMT, also known as "hyperthreading"). By contrast, the i9-12900K offers 16 cores and only 24 threads—with eight "performance" cores featuring SMT and eight lower-performance "efficiency" cores with no SMT.

As pointed out in the Ars Technica comments, the Cinebench multi-threaded benchmark saw Intel's best CPU with a less than 2.5% lead, but the caption reads "Intel trounces AMD". While the Passmark multi-threaded benchmark saw AMD's best CPU with a more than 18% lead, but the caption reads "outperform i9-12900k-but even here, by a much, much, lower margin than we're accustomed to seeing".

Also at Phoronix, AnandTech, and Tom's Hardware.

See also: More Linux Performance Benchmark Data For Alder Lake, Comparison Data Points
Intel UHD Graphics 770 / Alder Lake GT1 Linux Graphics Performance

Previously: Intel Alder Lake CPUs Launch November 4th, with Up to 8 Big and 8 Small Cores


Original Submission

 
This discussion has been archived. No new comments can be posted.
Display Options Threshold/Breakthrough Mark All as Read Mark All as Unread
The Fine Print: The following comments are owned by whoever posted them. We are not responsible for them in any way.
(1)
  • (Score: 0, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday November 04 2021, @09:04PM (3 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday November 04 2021, @09:04PM (#1193456)

    Not Intel's for long... [hardwaretimes.com]

    • (Score: 4, Informative) by takyon on Thursday November 04 2021, @09:10PM (2 children)

      by takyon (881) <takyonNO@SPAMsoylentnews.org> on Thursday November 04 2021, @09:10PM (#1193459) Journal

      Actually, we got the leak yesterday. So I'll just repurpose this comment I was writing.

      Not only will Intel double and quadruple the small core count, but AMD will also go hybrid/heterogeneous/big.LITTLE by Zen 5 [videocardz.com].

      Alder Lake will act as a(nother) beta test for big/small. Then Raptor Lake will include 8+16 and by then Windows and Linux should be able to handle it better. Then AMD will also do 8+16. Then Intel will go to 8+32. And so on.

      --
      [SIG] 10/28/2017: Soylent Upgrade v14 [soylentnews.org]
      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday November 04 2021, @10:40PM (1 child)

        by Anonymous Coward on Thursday November 04 2021, @10:40PM (#1193487)

        That is... Not big.little. That is a CPU with more cores and less cache.

        AMD said last year that they have no plans to follow suit unless clear benefits are demonstrated.
        https://www.techradar.com/news/amd-has-a-subtle-dig-at-intel-suggesting-alder-lake-cpus-dont-make-sense [techradar.com]
        https://www.pcgamer.com/amp/amd-ryzen-hybrid-architecture-big-little-intel-alder-lake/ [pcgamer.com]

        While Alder Lake is a good performing CPU, it doesn't seem like the E cores are helping much with that. It seems like they mostly cause problems for the OS.

        • (Score: 2) by takyon on Thursday November 04 2021, @11:10PM

          by takyon (881) <takyonNO@SPAMsoylentnews.org> on Thursday November 04 2021, @11:10PM (#1193495) Journal

          Less cache is definitely part of it, and Zen 4D will not be ~25% the size of Zen 5 cores according to the leak, more like 50%. But part of why Alder Lake's small cores are so small is also because they have less cache, and there's more that can be chopped off from regular/big Zen 4, such as AVX-512. And as seen in my journal (see the full page 2 of AnandTech's review [anandtech.com]), Intel was planning to launch with AVX-512 on the big cores and not the small cores, but disabled it at the last minute to mitigate scheduling issues.

          Alder Lake's small cores actually have IPC around Comet Lake cores [anandtech.com], just running at lower clock speeds. The small/E-cores are definitely helping Alder Lake beat the Ryzen 9 5950X in some benchmarks.

          AMD will walk onto the scene with their own version of big.LITTLE. It pretty much accomplishes the same thing as Alder Lake since the Zen 4D cores will have less single-threaded performance but two of them will outperform a Zen 5 core. As a bonus, the Zen 4D chiplets can be made on the older TSMC node to save some money. That complicates a die area comparison with Zen 5, but it should be possible to compare Zen 4 die shots to Zen 4D, both being made on the same TSMC "5nm" node.

          AMD will let Intel deal with the OS issues for now. Zen 5 + Zen 4D is a late 2023 product at the earliest.

          --
          [SIG] 10/28/2017: Soylent Upgrade v14 [soylentnews.org]
  • (Score: 5, Interesting) by JoeMerchant on Thursday November 04 2021, @09:16PM (11 children)

    by JoeMerchant (3937) on Thursday November 04 2021, @09:16PM (#1193463)

    But how many MPG does it get?

    Seriously, I'd love to have insta-compiles and all the snappy response I can get, but efficiency has been my priority since about 2006 (when AMD started kicking Intel's ass in the flops/Watt metrics).

    If a chip can sit near idle and draw near no power - be competitive with the mobile chips when performing at mobile chip levels, and crank up the heat when a big job is there to be dispatched, that would be ideal. Even though I may spend 90 minutes a day waiting for compiles, I really don't want to be burning 100W while sitting idle doing no more compute load than a 3W Raspberry Pi Zero can handle - and while it's great to "go green, save the whales, beat climate change" and all that... mostly I really don't like running 100W of thermal management 12-16 hours a day. Fans get clogged with dust and passive heatsinks to deal with that much power are just bigger than anything I want in my work area.

    And, Intel, it hasn't escaped my notice that the NUC reference design has ALWAYS had a fan buried inside. No matter how quiet that fan may be, it is still essential to operation of the system and you know it will be failing within 5 years or so... may every single member of the marketing department who knowingly drives that agenda spend eternity in a hot, dusty hell.

    --
    Україна досі не є частиною Росії Слава Україні🌻 https://news.stanford.edu/2023/02/17/will-russia-ukraine-war-end
    • (Score: 4, Interesting) by takyon on Thursday November 04 2021, @09:51PM (6 children)

      by takyon (881) <takyonNO@SPAMsoylentnews.org> on Thursday November 04 2021, @09:51PM (#1193476) Journal

      https://www.anandtech.com/show/17047/the-intel-12th-gen-core-i912900k-review-hybrid-performance-brings-hybrid-complexity/4 [anandtech.com]
      https://cdn.mos.cms.futurecdn.net/WmT6RhAp5h7bEgZ6qHKSuV-970-80.png.webp [futurecdn.net]
      https://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/core_i9_12900k_review,5.html [guru3d.com]

      Idle power is reasonable for what it is, around 76-78 Watts with an RTX 3090 (according to Guru3D, and the chart could be misleading). Pulling out the discrete GPU should lower that. Zen 3 is clearly more efficient overall, although I'm not sure about a comparison of Zen 3 vs. Alder Lake small cores only (in FLOPS/Watt).

      12600K uses about 100 Watts less than the 12900K under load. Intel is now reporting base clock and turbo TDP separately. 12600K has a turbo TDP of 150W, vs. 241W for the 12900K.

      I think more could be done about idle power, but maybe you don't need a desktop CPU. A mini PC with Alder Lake mobile or Cezanne/Van Gogh/Rembrandt will use less power. $400 Steam Deck = Van Gogh quad-core.

      --
      [SIG] 10/28/2017: Soylent Upgrade v14 [soylentnews.org]
      • (Score: 2) by JoeMerchant on Thursday November 04 2021, @10:18PM (5 children)

        by JoeMerchant (3937) on Thursday November 04 2021, @10:18PM (#1193480)

        See, 15 years ago 100W was "reasonable for what it is" and they're still shoveling the same excrement in the name of "but it's a desktop performance chip!!!"

        A mobile chip can handle 90% of most people's desktop workloads - when they're not running Crysis and similar, for the prices charged for these chips I would think that they could manage to bring "idle at the desktop" power draw down below 20W easily - 5W if they tried a little bit and maybe coordinated with Microsoft / Linux kernel developers. 250W TDP? Awesome, go for it, but 40% of TDP draw while doing little or nothing? Lame.

        --
        Україна досі не є частиною Росії Слава Україні🌻 https://news.stanford.edu/2023/02/17/will-russia-ukraine-war-end
        • (Score: 4, Interesting) by istartedi on Thursday November 04 2021, @10:35PM (2 children)

          by istartedi (123) on Thursday November 04 2021, @10:35PM (#1193483) Journal

          Seriously. What am I doing now? Scrolling through the stories? Once you've rendered a web page, you could literally offload that on to the monitor and put the CPU totally to sleep. How much of that "idle" power usage is (on Windows) background processes, updaters, services and absolute crap that has no good reason to be running other than "that's how it's done"?

          The cable modem is worse though. It's always concerned me. I'm doing nothing on the network and the thing is a nice little heater. It's sitting there looking at all the broadcast traffic, DHCP requests, and stuff from other machines. My PC is asleep. I haven't scheduled anything overnight. I don't want some updater I don't control using the network. There's no soft fix though, no way to tell the modem to sleep when the PC sleeps. I just have to make sure to un-plug the modem every night to avoid all that pointless power consumption.

          Climate summit? Fix the crappy hardware. Sheesh!

          --
          Appended to the end of comments you post. Max: 120 chars.
          • (Score: 3, Informative) by JoeMerchant on Friday November 05 2021, @01:55AM (1 child)

            by JoeMerchant (3937) on Friday November 05 2021, @01:55AM (#1193550)

            I don't want some updater I don't control using the network.

            Lowest effort way to make that happen is to pull the plug. I customize Ubuntu for our product, in seventeen easy steps you too can turn off all automatic updating in Ubuntu. I thought I had it in 16 steps until, three weeks into testing, suddenly our video capture performance went to hell - dig in to "top" and what do I find? Automatic update still trying to do it's thing.

            --
            Україна досі не є частиною Росії Слава Україні🌻 https://news.stanford.edu/2023/02/17/will-russia-ukraine-war-end
            • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday November 05 2021, @02:00PM

              by Anonymous Coward on Friday November 05 2021, @02:00PM (#1193694)

              Linux programmers copied shitty Microsoft. Much of what I liked about Unix (and its sloppy re-implemention, Linux) is effective gone now. Guess I should look at a BSD flavor.

        • (Score: 2) by takyon on Saturday November 13 2021, @03:04PM (1 child)

          by takyon (881) <takyonNO@SPAMsoylentnews.org> on Saturday November 13 2021, @03:04PM (#1195930) Journal

          Intel Raptor Lake’s Digital Linear Voltage Regulator (DLVR) could reduce CPU power up to 25% [videocardz.com]

          You could look at this one of two ways. Improvements will be made or the current CPU is broken.

          --
          [SIG] 10/28/2017: Soylent Upgrade v14 [soylentnews.org]
          • (Score: 2) by JoeMerchant on Saturday November 13 2021, @06:29PM

            by JoeMerchant (3937) on Saturday November 13 2021, @06:29PM (#1195964)

            Yeah, I believe if we look back over time, the current CPU is broken and this "progress" isn't even regaining the levels of power efficiency that were common 10-12 years ago.

            --
            Україна досі не є частиною Росії Слава Україні🌻 https://news.stanford.edu/2023/02/17/will-russia-ukraine-war-end
    • (Score: 4, Touché) by EvilSS on Thursday November 04 2021, @10:04PM (1 child)

      by EvilSS (1456) Subscriber Badge on Thursday November 04 2021, @10:04PM (#1193477)
      It's right there in the title: It's a barn burner. It will literally set your barn on fire. 350+ watts total system power at peak for the 12900K is what I'm seeing from several reviews. That's well above the AMD chips it's being compared to.
      • (Score: 2) by takyon on Thursday November 04 2021, @10:24PM

        by takyon (881) <takyonNO@SPAMsoylentnews.org> on Thursday November 04 2021, @10:24PM (#1193482) Journal

        I think AMD is going to copy Intel's direction, raising the allowed "TDP" (not overclocked, not the peak power) for the AM5 socket to 170 Watts from 105 Watts. Why leave a few hundred MHz on the table when Intel users don't care about that 200+ Watts consumption?

        --
        [SIG] 10/28/2017: Soylent Upgrade v14 [soylentnews.org]
    • (Score: 2) by mhajicek on Friday November 05 2021, @12:04AM (1 child)

      by mhajicek (51) Subscriber Badge on Friday November 05 2021, @12:04AM (#1193512)

      That's fine for you, but then you probably don't want a "performance" chip. Every extra minute I'm waiting for my computer to process toolpaths costs me money. I need about four to six blazing fast cores, with tons of cache, and I don't care if it pulls 1500 watts.

      --
      The spacelike surfaces of time foliations can have a cusp at the surface of discontinuity. - P. Hajicek
      • (Score: 3, Informative) by JoeMerchant on Friday November 05 2021, @01:58AM

        by JoeMerchant (3937) on Friday November 05 2021, @01:58AM (#1193551)

        If you use that computer to process toolpaths all day long, then that's legit. If you process toolpaths 10% of the time and surf the web, e-mail, and leave it idle the other 90% of the time, the 1500W cores really should be shutdown and a 1.5W phone mobile chip should step up and do that lightweight work.

        --
        Україна досі не є частиною Росії Слава Україні🌻 https://news.stanford.edu/2023/02/17/will-russia-ukraine-war-end
  • (Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Thursday November 04 2021, @10:50PM (9 children)

    by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Thursday November 04 2021, @10:50PM (#1193488) Homepage Journal

    There is a history of intel compilers hobbling AMD CPUs. And, when not actively hobbling, still optimizing for Intel architecture and Intel instructions.

    Running Folding at Home, I have a single 8 core 9th gen i9 that seems to outperform 64 cores on AMD Bulldozer CPUs. (4 CPUs 16 cores each) Intel compilers do not optimize code for AMD, intentionally.

    --
    Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
    • (Score: 2) by takyon on Thursday November 04 2021, @11:29PM (6 children)

      by takyon (881) <takyonNO@SPAMsoylentnews.org> on Thursday November 04 2021, @11:29PM (#1193500) Journal

      PassMark:

      Intel Core i9-9900K [cpubenchmark.net] = 2970 single, 18822 multi
      AMD Opteron 6272 [cpubenchmark.net] = 753 single, 5240 multi

      There could be a conspiracy. Or it could be that Bulldozer is hot and old garbage. Plus the 16-"core" Opterons run at substantially lower clock speeds than the 8-"core" desktop Bulldozer CPUs were pushed to. To be fair, I picked the slowest 16-"core" Opteron of that generation [wikipedia.org].

      AMD FX-8150 Eight-"Core" [cpubenchmark.net] = 1401 single, 5077 multi

      Those two were both released in 2011.

      Another big point: no AVX2 on Opteron 6200-series. And that's how 32 modules get smacked around by 8 cores.

      --
      [SIG] 10/28/2017: Soylent Upgrade v14 [soylentnews.org]
      • (Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Friday November 05 2021, @12:30AM (5 children)

        by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Friday November 05 2021, @12:30AM (#1193528) Homepage Journal

        This Opteron - https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=AMD+Opteron+6380&id=2498 [cpubenchmark.net] you linked to an FX. There is some difference, but not an awful lot. And I have 4 CPUs, with a total of 64 cores.

        Also, my mobile i9 coincidentally runs at the same clock speed as my server Opterons - 2.4 ghz.

        --
        Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
        • (Score: 2) by takyon on Friday November 05 2021, @01:12AM (4 children)

          by takyon (881) <takyonNO@SPAMsoylentnews.org> on Friday November 05 2021, @01:12AM (#1193546) Journal

          What's the specific mobile i9 chip? Just kidding, it's the i9-9980HK [cpubenchmark.net]. Turbos up to 5 GHz on 1 core [wikipedia.org], wow. Still gets 74-89% of the scores of the 9900K.

          I think you can at least see the plausibility of an 8-core 9th Gen Intel chip outperforming multiple 8-module (16-thread) Opterons. Perhaps even four of them.

          https://www.cpu-world.com/CPUs/Bulldozer/AMD-Opteron%206380%20-%20OS6380WKTGGHK.html [cpu-world.com]
          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_AMD_Opteron_microprocessors#Opteron_6300-series_%22Abu_Dhabi%22_(32_nm) [wikipedia.org]

          Also no AVX2 on the Opteron 6380. From my 2 minutes of research, it looks like Folding@home has finally updated to take advantage of AVX2 instructions with the GROMACS A8 core during 2020:

          https://greenfoldingathome.com/2021/02/22/amd-ryzen-9-3950x-part-4-full-throttle-folding-with-turbo-core-and-smt/ [greenfoldingathome.com]
          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Folding@home_cores [wikipedia.org]
          https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22574191 [ycombinator.com]

          You should probably start calculating whether running those Opterons 24/7 is worth the electricity cost, vs. the cost of buying newer hardware that outperforms all of them and running that 24/7. Also, GPUs may get a lot more performance/$ for Folding@home, but you would need to confirm that and it's still the worst time to buy a new GPU ever.

          --
          [SIG] 10/28/2017: Soylent Upgrade v14 [soylentnews.org]
          • (Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Friday November 05 2021, @03:45AM (3 children)

            by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Friday November 05 2021, @03:45AM (#1193577) Homepage Journal

            Most definitely GPUs outperform any CPU you would care to name. My GTX 1650 does more work than all the CPUs in the house, combined. And, the 2070 does more than both 1650s plus all the CPUs in the house combined. Of my ~2,000,000 points per day, the 2070 produces ~1.4 to ~1.6 million. It varies, of course, from day to day, from work unit to work unit.

            However, you still haven't countered my original claim that intel compilers optimize for intel chips, and do nothing to enhance AMD performance.

            --
            Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
            • (Score: 2) by takyon on Friday November 05 2021, @03:54AM (2 children)

              by takyon (881) <takyonNO@SPAMsoylentnews.org> on Friday November 05 2021, @03:54AM (#1193579) Journal

              However, you still haven't countered my original claim that intel compilers optimize for intel chips, and do nothing to enhance AMD performance.

              I'm not sure why that would be a surprise, if it is true. What compiler does Folding@home use?

              --
              [SIG] 10/28/2017: Soylent Upgrade v14 [soylentnews.org]
              • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday November 05 2021, @04:55AM (1 child)

                by Anonymous Coward on Friday November 05 2021, @04:55AM (#1193591)

                Folding@Home is commercial software. They probably disable signatures and strip everything not absolutely necessary out of the binary. Or maybe not because they don't really care what they are paid to put on your machine. If they didn't and you really cared, might be able to FLIRT the executable or disassemble it and figure it out yourself.

                • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday November 05 2021, @07:21AM

                  by Anonymous Coward on Friday November 05 2021, @07:21AM (#1193626)

                  Oops. That last sentence should start with "If they did and..." because FLIRT or disassembly is only really necessary if the executable doesn't identify its compiler.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday November 05 2021, @09:07AM (1 child)

      by Anonymous Coward on Friday November 05 2021, @09:07AM (#1193633)
      Bulldozer is crap. Feel free to compile stuff with GCC or whatever and run benchmarks. Or benchmark stuff written in ASM.

      There's a reason why more people are interested in Ryzen than they were in Bulldozer. Basically at one point AMD had inferior chips. All they could think of was to increase the core count. But that's just stupid, because if I had lots of processing tasks that's helped merely by increasing core count I'd run that stuff on a GPU (well that was back when GPUs were more affordable ;) ).

      In contrast the Ryzen stuff is genuinely fast, especially the newer stuff.

      There were other good points of using AMD CPUs - many supported ECC and AMD tended to not change the sockets as often as Intel. But the latter isn't really a big deal for most people. I'm more likely to buy a entire new PC after X years rather than just change the CPU (especially if it was the old days when you weren't going to get much of a speed increase by upgrading to a newer AMD CPU - you'd be better off spending the upgrade money on SSD, GPU, or RAM).
      • (Score: 2) by Marand on Friday November 05 2021, @09:30PM

        by Marand (1081) on Friday November 05 2021, @09:30PM (#1193835) Journal

        Bulldozer is crap. [...] All they could think of was to increase the core count. But that's just stupid, because if I had lots of processing tasks that's helped merely by increasing core count I'd run that stuff on a GPU (well that was back when GPUs were more affordable ;)

        The real mistake with Bulldozer was the "cores" were integer cores with shared floating point units, so an "8 core" bulldozer only had 4 FPUs shared between core pairs. Both companies had their own idea for how to "fake" extra cores: Intel did SMT with "hyperthreading", while AMD tried a hybrid approach with more "real cores" that were only real for certain kinds of workloads. CPUs get designed years in advance and AMD made a bad prediction, apparently expecting integer performance to be king, when that didn't happen at all.

        I think JavaScript may be partly to blame there since it doesn't have a real integer type. Bulldozer was being designed pre-Web2.0 when JS was a curiosity that just added minor features to websites, but was released into a world there JS-heavy sites were quickly becoming the norm and writing "native applications" with Electron quickly (and unfortunately) became popular. That put an unexpectedly high emphasis on floating point even in workloads that weren't as reliant on FP performance.

        AMD gambled and lost, and nearly went out of business from it. With Ryzen they abandoned the failed experiment, adopted SMT like Intel did, and made other improvements, and it saved them.

  • (Score: 2, Insightful) by tangomargarine on Friday November 05 2021, @12:04AM (8 children)

    by tangomargarine (667) on Friday November 05 2021, @12:04AM (#1193513)

    Intel's Alder Lake big.LITTLE CPU Design

    Because *Intel* is the company I go to get witty brand names... <facepalm>

    I'm literally trying to think of a company that I associate *less* with pop culture than a 60s manufacturer of mainframes, and x86, that 70s chip that is still being produced because it happened to be cheaper at the time. Are there any buggy whip manufacturers still in business?

    --
    "Is that really true?" "I just spent the last hour telling you to think for yourself! Didn't you hear anything I said?"
    • (Score: 2) by tangomargarine on Friday November 05 2021, @12:07AM

      by tangomargarine (667) on Friday November 05 2021, @12:07AM (#1193517)

      That 70s Chip

      starring Topher Graphics as Bitcoin Q. Farmer

      it works because "Farmer" is a real last name, right? right???

      shut up, it was a great joke

      --
      "Is that really true?" "I just spent the last hour telling you to think for yourself! Didn't you hear anything I said?"
    • (Score: 2) by takyon on Friday November 05 2021, @12:08AM (5 children)

      by takyon (881) <takyonNO@SPAMsoylentnews.org> on Friday November 05 2021, @12:08AM (#1193518) Journal

      I don't think Intel is using "big.LITTLE" terminology. Others are because it's been around for so long and is practically generic. Even Arm is calling it "Arm DynamIQ" instead of big.LITTLE.

      --
      [SIG] 10/28/2017: Soylent Upgrade v14 [soylentnews.org]
      • (Score: 2) by tangomargarine on Friday November 05 2021, @12:12AM (4 children)

        by tangomargarine (667) on Friday November 05 2021, @12:12AM (#1193521)

        Ah...after 5 seconds of googling it appears that it was an ARM invention. That makes more sense.

        And even ARM is embarrassed of the name now haha

        --
        "Is that really true?" "I just spent the last hour telling you to think for yourself! Didn't you hear anything I said?"
        • (Score: 2) by takyon on Friday November 05 2021, @12:14AM (2 children)

          by takyon (881) <takyonNO@SPAMsoylentnews.org> on Friday November 05 2021, @12:14AM (#1193522) Journal

          Intel's got what you want: Pee-cores and eCores.

          --
          [SIG] 10/28/2017: Soylent Upgrade v14 [soylentnews.org]
          • (Score: 2) by tangomargarine on Friday November 05 2021, @12:17AM

            by tangomargarine (667) on Friday November 05 2021, @12:17AM (#1193523)

            Why do I suspect that the "e" is like neither "email" nor "e(nvironmental) solutions"...

            --
            "Is that really true?" "I just spent the last hour telling you to think for yourself! Didn't you hear anything I said?"
          • (Score: 2, Funny) by khallow on Friday November 05 2021, @10:16AM

            by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Friday November 05 2021, @10:16AM (#1193646) Journal

            Pee-cores

            Lemme guess. Liquid cooled?

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday November 05 2021, @04:09AM

          by Anonymous Coward on Friday November 05 2021, @04:09AM (#1193583)

          big.LITTLE and DynamIQ are not the same thing. They are both heterogeneous computing architectures and have some similarities, but they are not identical nor are they compatible. I think another reason they switched is because they got the heterogeneous computing mind share of most people first and "big.LITTLE" is starting to suffer from trademark erosion due to the "Kleenex" problem of being used generically.

    • (Score: 2) by tangomargarine on Friday November 05 2021, @03:35AM

      by tangomargarine (667) on Friday November 05 2021, @03:35AM (#1193572)

      Oh yeah, this is totally offtopic. Not like I'm literally talking about the title of the post or anything.

      Bunch of hosers, take off eh

      --
      "Is that really true?" "I just spent the last hour telling you to think for yourself! Didn't you hear anything I said?"
  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday November 05 2021, @03:12AM (2 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday November 05 2021, @03:12AM (#1193565)

    There's not just the electricity this chip uses - it's also the electricity to cool the room it's in, and the NOISE.

    And lets face it - this will be a race between going obsolete or hardware failing, while the lower current draw machines just keep chugging along.

  • (Score: -1, Spam) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 06 2021, @09:39AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 06 2021, @09:39AM (#1194013)

    1.) What's the survival rate for COVID (minus co-morbidity factors issues present already)?

    ANSWER = roughly 99++% across ALL age groups!

    2.) Then WHY TAKE A SHOT that's PROVEN it generates ALL THESE BAD CONDITIONS:

    pericarditis
    myocarditis
    NERVOUS "twitch" disorders (gillian barre, Bells Palsy, huntington's disease like, etc.)
    PARALYSIS
    cancer
    sterility
    COVID RASH (huge blisters & "burnt" red skin that falls off etc.)
    brain aneurisms
    lung CLOTS

    (for most of those, IF you've been vaxed & did NOT get a SALINE scientific method control item placebo? GET A D-DIMER TEST to help catch & stall BLOOD CLOTTING leading to them, catching it EARLY!)

    If you DON'T think the vaccine CLOTS YOUR BLOOD like sickle cell anemia does to blacks?

    See it for yourself here under a microscope happening More proof of Human blood cells AFTER vaccine https://www.brighteon.com/f5032b11-4624-4ce6-b3a3-678485badfc8 [brighteon.com] & LITERAL UNDER THE MICROSCOPE PROOF & THEY ARE IRREGULAR in SHAPE due to CROWN like shape HELPING TO CAUSE CLOTTING like sickle cell anemia does to blacks!

    (just like I had to do to "DUMBO dalek" with his BRAND NEW sockpuppet acct dalek (& admits he stalks me & ONLY ME if you look @ his post history, only to have me EXTERMINATE him every time))

    SOYLENT NEWS' OWN moderators/admins here KNOW it goes on, big write up here on it in fact https://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=21/08/19/0211237 [soylentnews.org] (on sockpuppeting/downmod bombing LIKE DALEK says he will do to me):

    Once this account is old enough to be eligible to moderate, I'll be happy to give you the spam mods you deserve - by dalek (15489) on Wednesday October 06, @11:10PM (#1184989)

    HOW are you going to do THAT dalek when I've EXTERMINATED you? Especially with that BRAND NEW SOCKPUPPET ACCOUNT you use to STALK me (only me, anyone can see your post history on that note).

    Why would the spike protein produced by mRNA vaccines be extremely dangerous while nearly identical spike proteins on the SARS-CoV-2 virus are benign? That just doesn't make any sense. - by dalek (15489) on Thursday November 04, @10:54PM (#1193491)

    BENIGN? See what it does to vaccinated blood vs. pureblood unvaxed here https://www.brighteon.com/f5032b11-4624-4ce6-b3a3-678485badfc8 [brighteon.com]

    I HAD TO EDUCATE YOU ON HOW mRNA is part of GENETICS involved here https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?noupdate=1&sid=45854&commentsort=0&mode=threadtos&threshold=-1&highlightthresh=-1&page=1&cid=1193514#commentwrap [soylentnews.org]

    Your rants about genetics are irrelevant because my question was about the behavior of the proteins after they're produced - by dalek (15489) on Friday November 05, @02:17AM (#1193555)

    THIS IS ALL ABOUT GENETICS stupid!

    I mean, lol - WHAT IS mRNA after all? ANSWER = A part of protein synthesis involving mRNA, tRNA, & rRNA for the creation of DNA!

    IF RNA single helix strands JOIN improperly into a NEW double-helix DNA (via Guanine, Adenine, Cytosine & Thymine), that creates ERRORS (cancer is 1 possible bad one, mutations another etc.) - see NHEJ below.

    dalek - have you taken any genetics coursework? I have & got A's (as my science elective requirement during my CS degreework) & even I understand that much!

    PROOF OF IT CAUSING DAMAGE is here ON CLOTTING caused by malformed bloodcells (like sickle cell anemia in blacks) https://www.brighteon.com/f5032b11-4624-4ce6-b3a3-678485badfc8 [brighteon.com] in addition to Dr. Richard Fleming

    See Dr. Richard Fleming PhD JD MD proving clotting ONLY AFTER VAX WERE INJECTED: Pfizer Vax Attacks Human Blood Creating Clots Under Microscope https://www.brighteon.com/cca2c396-0750-4dc9-a15e-9a7b5ae05c02 [brighteon.com] (this I have some issues with in that it does not test change over time ala DIFFERENTIAL EQUATIONS but it does show what I say here)

    ---

    ALL BASED ON FALSE POSITIVE RESULT GENERATING PCR TESTS per all the evidences I noted here on that note vs. your bs WHICH HELPED ME PROVE IT https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?noupdate=1&sid=45332&page=1&cid=1185265#commentwrap [soylentnews.org]

    *** IMPORTANT/ADDITIONAL FACT:

    PCR tests DID NOT TEST FOR ANYTHING BUT DNA (double-helix) & what do viruses contain? RNA (single-helix) ONLY!

    (So the CDC got rid of OLD TESTS (that also did false positives due to cycling turned up too high to panic sheeple into taking a CLOT SHOT) & NOW "new tests" are out? No thanks!)

    ---

    PCR test cycles TURNED UP TOO HIGH in cycling per Kary Mullis the NOBEL LAUREATE who was awarded the NOBEL PRIZE for that test (nobody knows it better than he - HE INVENTED IT) DID OCCUR & the fact "new tests" ARE out PROVES IT - but those that took the shot based on FALSE POSITIVE RESULTS I list above ARE IN DEEP SHIT (dead).

    A DOCUMENTARY that further illustrates the BS of the PCR test?

    COVIDLAND https://www.brighteon.com/97ba444b-d3fd-4774-8bed-e9ceb3844fec [brighteon.com]

    ( w/ FAUCI saying "anything over 33 cycles is not worth doing it higher" WHICH THEY DID DO, by testing way, Way, WAY over 33 cycles (so much so, things like a BANANA show "covid positive") to CHUMP YOU into taking the CLOTSHOT - period!)

    ---

    Have they EVER isolated an ACTUAL Covid virus? Apparently NOT per Dr. Kevin Corbett https://www.brighteon.com/e2ffc327-ae29-4eab-9701-77c511e7a854 [brighteon.com] so HOW IN HELL did they make a "vaccine" then?

    ---

    More "VINTAGE" Dalek DUMBO easily disproven BS:

    vaccines don't contain graphene oxide.- by dalek (15489) on Tuesday October 26, @07:37AM (#1190563)

    ELECTRON MICROSCOPY EXPERT Dr. Young SHOWS POISONOUS GRAPHENE IN VACCINES ALSO:

    https://www.brighteon.com/9e58bf44-05e7-4b71-97e5-b243f6cf890c [brighteon.com]

    &

    https://www.brighteon.com/9fbd7735-b49d-4e31-a146-f67d7eb54d75 [brighteon.com]

    FACT!

    IN FACT (pun intended) GRAPHENE OXIDE's in Pfizer, Moderna, Johnson & Johnson (Janssen) + AstraZeneca:

    https://www.brighteon.com/6d8fcfd7-4811-4e64-90c9-bd5585b59ff5 [brighteon.com]

    &

    Guess what is a MAJOR CAUSE of myocarditis, clotting, CANCER MALIGNANCY etc.? That's right: GRAPHENE OXIDE, "surprise, Surprise, SURPRISE" (not).

    ---

    MORE VINTAGE "Dumbo dalek":

    COVID-19 vaccines do not cause cancer - by dalek (15489) on Tuesday October 26, @04:45AM (#1190535)

    Graphene Oxide Promotes Cancer Metastasis https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/31877027/ [nih.gov]

    + MY BEST PAL'S DAD (who took the clotshot & 6 months later DIED of cancer in 3 weeks)

    OR

    MY OWN FATHER who took the shot & has cancer now (again also 6 months later) & THERE IS NO CANCER IN MY FAMILY TREE spanning back GENERATIONS...

    I've SEEN it TWICE in person.

    *** UPDATE: ***

    An Israeli study PROVES that the NHEJ (non-homologous end joining) mechanism in your cells is DAMAGED by SPIKE PROTEINS in the death vax & IT IS LINKED TO CANCER per:

    Text version https://naturalnews.com/2021-11-02-covid-vaccines-inhibit-dna-repair-cause-cancer.html [naturalnews.com]

    ---

    Vaccine makers don't KNOW WHAT THEY'RE DOING (or do & want to kill you)!

    * AND, moreso when a PFizer scientist ADMITS natural immunity is better than taking the CLOTSHOTS (NDA he signed got him scared for it too, admitting it) https://www.brighteon.com/2aa6d13f-e0bb-4fd7-8f7a-fb36df5e0b18 [brighteon.com]

    ---

    Then, the WHO changes the DEFINITION of "pandemic" from NUMBER OF DEATHS vs. NUMBER OF CASES (which "The Wayback Machine" still has evidence of) to make a herd stampede in panic (herd of stupid sheeple) due to false positives from a BOGUS "test" per above, that ROPED DOPES IN as said "panicked sheeple herd" to take a shot that f's you up!

    ---

    E.G. All you have to REALLY "endure" is a flu like condition - e.g. My Mom's 84++ & SURVIVED IT (beating it in 7 days)! However by way of comparison? See what I said of my Father earlier above (cancer now 6 months after taking this bullshit "shot" & THERE IS NO CANCER IN MY FAMILY TREE spanning back generations...)

    * YOUR "CURE" IS WORSE THAN THE DISEASE!

    (Proof is that when your body after vaxing LOSES its IMMUNE SYSTEM (see cytokines below in my ps) & MORE PEOPLE WOULD DIE in FLU SEASON (just starting now 10/2021) & THEY ARE NOW "right on schedule" per https://www.brighteon.com/6b1d70d0-d79d-4cdf-9385-d0a7726c46a1 [brighteon.com] )

    Dr. Sherri Tenpenny "vaxed lose 5% immunity PER WEEK" November 1st 2021 https://www.brighteon.com/bc259499-87c9-430a-9921-fdd75f73217f [brighteon.com]

    Natural news shows the same Are covid "vaccines" giving people AIDS? Immune system functions are dropping around 5% EACH WEEK in those who were vaccinated https://www.naturalnews.com/2021-10-17-are-covid-vaccines-giving-people-aids.html [naturalnews.com]

    The SUPER-COLD in the UK is more evidence thereof https://www.newsletter.co.uk/health/coronavirus/super-cold-or-covid-symptoms-of-uk-super-cold-how-its-different-to-covid-and-how-to-avoid-catching-it-3425076 [newsletter.co.uk]

    (The vax is making you UNABLE to combat a simple cold (a corona virus no less)).

    In fact, due to VARIANTS being produced by the vaxxinated? I'd say the VAX IS THE DISEASE (as it debilitates your immune system to ZERO efficacy eventually & YOU DIE... )

    APK

    P.S.=> Why fix something that's NOT BROKEN (your innate native immune system) UNTIL the vax damages your "killer T" cells proven just above (specifically T1 marker type that marks infestors via cytokines for leukocytes envelop & digestion removal (or possibly lymphocytes doing so also)) - ADE (Antibody Dependent Enhancement that makes your IMMUNE SYSTEM good vs. 1 variant type only, demanding "more boosters" but they can't KEEP UP WITH THE VARIANTS POSSIBLE in permutation "combinatorial explosion" & your "new immune system" can't MARK the variants of CORONA VIRUSES) - especially vs. something that DOES NOT KILL YOU in 99++% of cases minus ANY OTHER "co-morbidities"? Additionally given that - WHY THE "BIG PUSH" to PUSH (like drug dealer PUSHERS do & in this case, "LEGAL" drug dealers) to put a vax in you that does NOT WORK as advertised in the 1st place ("100% effective" is now as LOW as "3% effective")?? LOOKUP Dr. Franc Zalewski and see EXACTLY why here https://www.brighteon.com/0ff2ee6a-413a-4e4e-b516-831eb394bc90 [brighteon.com] Where he shows SOMEKIND OF ORGANISM self-assembling made of carbon & aluminum floating around in VACCINATED FOLKS' BLOOD doing WHO KNOWS WHAT!... apk

  • (Score: -1, Spam) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 06 2021, @01:09PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 06 2021, @01:09PM (#1194079)

    1.) What's the survival rate for COVID (minus co-morbidity factors issues present already)?

    ANSWER = roughly 99++% across ALL age groups!

    2.) Then WHY TAKE A SHOT that's PROVEN it generates ALL THESE BAD CONDITIONS:

    pericarditis
    myocarditis
    NERVOUS "twitch" disorders (gillian barre, Bells Palsy, huntington's disease like, etc.)
    PARALYSIS
    cancer
    sterility
    COVID RASH (huge blisters & "burnt" red skin that falls off etc.)
    brain aneurisms
    lung CLOTS

    (for most of those, IF you've been vaxed & did NOT get a SALINE scientific method control item placebo? GET A D-DIMER TEST to help catch & stall BLOOD CLOTTING leading to them, catching it EARLY!)

    If you DON'T think the vaccine CLOTS YOUR BLOOD like sickle cell anemia does to blacks?

    See it for yourself here under a microscope happening More proof of Human blood cells AFTER vaccine https://www.brighteon.com/f5032b11-4624-4ce6-b3a3-678485badfc8 [brighteon.com] & LITERAL UNDER THE MICROSCOPE PROOF & THEY ARE IRREGULAR in SHAPE due to CROWN like shape HELPING TO CAUSE CLOTTING like sickle cell anemia does to blacks!

    (just like I had to do to "DUMBO dalek" with his BRAND NEW sockpuppet acct dalek (& admits he stalks me & ONLY ME if you look @ his post history, only to have me EXTERMINATE him every time))

    SOYLENT NEWS' OWN moderators/admins here KNOW it goes on, big write up here on it in fact https://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=21/08/19/0211237 [soylentnews.org] (on sockpuppeting/downmod bombing LIKE DALEK says he will do to me):

    Once this account is old enough to be eligible to moderate, I'll be happy to give you the spam mods you deserve - by dalek (15489) on Wednesday October 06, @11:10PM (#1184989)

    HOW are you going to do THAT dalek when I've EXTERMINATED you? Especially with that BRAND NEW SOCKPUPPET ACCOUNT you use to STALK me (only me, anyone can see your post history on that note).

    Why would the spike protein produced by mRNA vaccines be extremely dangerous while nearly identical spike proteins on the SARS-CoV-2 virus are benign? That just doesn't make any sense. - by dalek (15489) on Thursday November 04, @10:54PM (#1193491)

    BENIGN? See what it does to vaccinated blood vs. pureblood unvaxed here https://www.brighteon.com/f5032b11-4624-4ce6-b3a3-678485badfc8 [brighteon.com]

    I HAD TO EDUCATE YOU ON HOW mRNA is part of GENETICS involved here https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?noupdate=1&sid=45854&commentsort=0&mode=threadtos&threshold=-1&highlightthresh=-1&page=1&cid=1193514#commentwrap [soylentnews.org]

    Your rants about genetics are irrelevant because my question was about the behavior of the proteins after they're produced - by dalek (15489) on Friday November 05, @02:17AM (#1193555)

    THIS IS ALL ABOUT GENETICS stupid!

    I mean, lol - WHAT IS mRNA after all? ANSWER = A part of protein synthesis involving mRNA, tRNA, & rRNA for the creation of DNA!

    IF RNA single helix strands JOIN improperly into a NEW double-helix DNA (via Guanine, Adenine, Cytosine & Thymine), that creates ERRORS (cancer is 1 possible bad one, mutations another etc.) - see NHEJ below.

    dalek - have you taken any genetics coursework? I have & got A's (as my science elective requirement during my CS degreework) & even I understand that much!

    PROOF OF IT CAUSING DAMAGE is here ON CLOTTING caused by malformed bloodcells (like sickle cell anemia in blacks) https://www.brighteon.com/f5032b11-4624-4ce6-b3a3-678485badfc8 [brighteon.com] in addition to Dr. Richard Fleming

    See Dr. Richard Fleming PhD JD MD proving clotting ONLY AFTER VAX WERE INJECTED: Pfizer Vax Attacks Human Blood Creating Clots Under Microscope https://www.brighteon.com/cca2c396-0750-4dc9-a15e-9a7b5ae05c02 [brighteon.com] (this I have some issues with in that it does not test change over time ala DIFFERENTIAL EQUATIONS but it does show what I say here)

    ---

    ALL BASED ON FALSE POSITIVE RESULT GENERATING PCR TESTS per all the evidences I noted here on that note vs. your bs WHICH HELPED ME PROVE IT https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?noupdate=1&sid=45332&page=1&cid=1185265#commentwrap [soylentnews.org]

    *** IMPORTANT/ADDITIONAL FACT:

    PCR tests DID NOT TEST FOR ANYTHING BUT DNA (double-helix) & what do viruses contain? RNA (single-helix) ONLY!

    (So the CDC got rid of OLD TESTS (that also did false positives due to cycling turned up too high to panic sheeple into taking a CLOT SHOT) & NOW "new tests" are out? No thanks!)

    ---

    PCR test cycles TURNED UP TOO HIGH in cycling per Kary Mullis the NOBEL LAUREATE who was awarded the NOBEL PRIZE for that test (nobody knows it better than he - HE INVENTED IT) DID OCCUR & the fact "new tests" ARE out PROVES IT - but those that took the shot based on FALSE POSITIVE RESULTS I list above ARE IN DEEP SHIT (dead).

    A DOCUMENTARY that further illustrates the BS of the PCR test?

    COVIDLAND https://www.brighteon.com/97ba444b-d3fd-4774-8bed-e9ceb3844fec [brighteon.com]

    ( w/ FAUCI saying "anything over 33 cycles is not worth doing it higher" WHICH THEY DID DO, by testing way, Way, WAY over 33 cycles (so much so, things like a BANANA show "covid positive") to CHUMP YOU into taking the CLOTSHOT - period!)

    ---

    Have they EVER isolated an ACTUAL Covid virus? Apparently NOT per Dr. Kevin Corbett https://www.brighteon.com/e2ffc327-ae29-4eab-9701-77c511e7a854 [brighteon.com] so HOW IN HELL did they make a "vaccine" then?

    ---

    More "VINTAGE" Dalek DUMBO easily disproven BS:

    vaccines don't contain graphene oxide.- by dalek (15489) on Tuesday October 26, @07:37AM (#1190563)

    ELECTRON MICROSCOPY EXPERT Dr. Young SHOWS POISONOUS GRAPHENE IN VACCINES ALSO:

    https://www.brighteon.com/9e58bf44-05e7-4b71-97e5-b243f6cf890c [brighteon.com]

    &

    https://www.brighteon.com/9fbd7735-b49d-4e31-a146-f67d7eb54d75 [brighteon.com]

    FACT!

    IN FACT (pun intended) GRAPHENE OXIDE's in Pfizer, Moderna, Johnson & Johnson (Janssen) + AstraZeneca:

    https://www.brighteon.com/6d8fcfd7-4811-4e64-90c9-bd5585b59ff5 [brighteon.com]

    &

    Guess what is a MAJOR CAUSE of myocarditis, clotting, CANCER MALIGNANCY etc.? That's right: GRAPHENE OXIDE, "surprise, Surprise, SURPRISE" (not).

    ---

    MORE VINTAGE "Dumbo dalek":

    COVID-19 vaccines do not cause cancer - by dalek (15489) on Tuesday October 26, @04:45AM (#1190535)

    Graphene Oxide Promotes Cancer Metastasis https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/31877027/ [nih.gov]

    + MY BEST PAL'S DAD (who took the clotshot & 6 months later DIED of cancer in 3 weeks)

    OR

    MY OWN FATHER who took the shot & has cancer now (again also 6 months later) & THERE IS NO CANCER IN MY FAMILY TREE spanning back GENERATIONS...

    I've SEEN it TWICE in person.

    *** UPDATE: ***

    An Israeli study PROVES that the NHEJ (non-homologous end joining) mechanism in your cells is DAMAGED by SPIKE PROTEINS in the death vax & IT IS LINKED TO CANCER per:

    Text version https://naturalnews.com/2021-11-02-covid-vaccines-inhibit-dna-repair-cause-cancer.html [naturalnews.com]

    ---

    Vaccine makers don't KNOW WHAT THEY'RE DOING (or do & want to kill you)!

    * AND, moreso when a PFizer scientist ADMITS natural immunity is better than taking the CLOTSHOTS (NDA he signed got him scared for it too, admitting it) https://www.brighteon.com/2aa6d13f-e0bb-4fd7-8f7a-fb36df5e0b18 [brighteon.com]

    ---

    Then, the WHO changes the DEFINITION of "pandemic" from NUMBER OF DEATHS vs. NUMBER OF CASES (which "The Wayback Machine" still has evidence of) to make a herd stampede in panic (herd of stupid sheeple) due to false positives from a BOGUS "test" per above, that ROPED DOPES IN as said "panicked sheeple herd" to take a shot that f's you up!

    ---

    E.G. All you have to REALLY "endure" is a flu like condition - e.g. My Mom's 84++ & SURVIVED IT (beating it in 7 days)! However by way of comparison? See what I said of my Father earlier above (cancer now 6 months after taking this bullshit "shot" & THERE IS NO CANCER IN MY FAMILY TREE spanning back generations...)

    * YOUR "CURE" IS WORSE THAN THE DISEASE!

    (Proof is that when your body after vaxing LOSES its IMMUNE SYSTEM (see cytokines below in my ps) & MORE PEOPLE WOULD DIE in FLU SEASON (just starting now 10/2021) & THEY ARE NOW "right on schedule" per https://www.brighteon.com/6b1d70d0-d79d-4cdf-9385-d0a7726c46a1 [brighteon.com] )

    Dr. Sherri Tenpenny "vaxed lose 5% immunity PER WEEK" November 1st 2021 https://www.brighteon.com/bc259499-87c9-430a-9921-fdd75f73217f [brighteon.com]

    Natural news shows the same Are covid "vaccines" giving people AIDS? Immune system functions are dropping around 5% EACH WEEK in those who were vaccinated https://www.naturalnews.com/2021-10-17-are-covid-vaccines-giving-people-aids.html [naturalnews.com]

    The SUPER-COLD in the UK is more evidence thereof https://www.newsletter.co.uk/health/coronavirus/super-cold-or-covid-symptoms-of-uk-super-cold-how-its-different-to-covid-and-how-to-avoid-catching-it-3425076 [newsletter.co.uk]

    (The vax is making you UNABLE to combat a simple cold (a corona virus no less)).

    In fact, due to VARIANTS being produced by the vaxxinated? I'd say the VAX IS THE DISEASE (as it debilitates your immune system to ZERO efficacy eventually & YOU DIE... )

    APK

    P.S.=> Why fix something that's NOT BROKEN (your innate native immune system) UNTIL the vax damages your "killer T" cells proven just above (specifically T1 marker type that marks infestors via cytokines for leukocytes envelop & digestion removal (or possibly lymphocytes doing so also)) - ADE (Antibody Dependent Enhancement that makes your IMMUNE SYSTEM good vs. 1 variant type only, demanding "more boosters" but they can't KEEP UP WITH THE VARIANTS POSSIBLE in permutation "combinatorial explosion" & your "new immune system" can't MARK the variants of CORONA VIRUSES) - especially vs. something that DOES NOT KILL YOU in 99++% of cases minus ANY OTHER "co-morbidities"? Additionally given that - WHY THE "BIG PUSH" to PUSH (like drug dealer PUSHERS do & in this case, "LEGAL" drug dealers) a vax in you that does NOT WORK as advertised in the 1st place ("100% effective" is now as LOW as "3% effective")?? LOOKUP Dr. Franc Zalewski and see EXACTLY why here https://www.brighteon.com/0ff2ee6a-413a-4e4e-b516-831eb394bc90 [brighteon.com] Where he shows SOMEKIND OF ORGANISM self-assembling made of carbon & aluminum floating around in VACCINATED FOLKS' BLOOD doing WHO KNOWS WHAT!... apk

  • (Score: -1, Spam) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday November 07 2021, @03:24AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday November 07 2021, @03:24AM (#1194330)

    1.) What's the survival rate for COVID (minus co-morbidity factors issues present already)?

    ANSWER = roughly 99++% across ALL age groups!

    2.) Then WHY TAKE A SHOT that's PROVEN it generates ALL THESE BAD CONDITIONS:

    pericarditis
    myocarditis
    NERVOUS "twitch" disorders (gillian barre, Bells Palsy, huntington's disease like, etc.)
    PARALYSIS
    cancer
    sterility
    COVID RASH (huge blisters & "burnt" red skin that falls off etc.)
    brain aneurisms
    lung CLOTS

    (for most of those, IF you've been vaxed & did NOT get a SALINE scientific method control item placebo? GET A D-DIMER TEST to help catch & stall BLOOD CLOTTING leading to them, catching it EARLY!)

    If you DON'T think the vaccine CLOTS YOUR BLOOD like sickle cell anemia does to blacks?

    See it for yourself here under a microscope happening More proof of Human blood cells AFTER vaccine https://www.brighteon.com/f5032b11-4624-4ce6-b3a3-678485badfc8 [brighteon.com] & LITERAL UNDER THE MICROSCOPE PROOF & THEY ARE IRREGULAR in SHAPE due to CROWN like shape HELPING TO CAUSE CLOTTING like sickle cell anemia does to blacks!

    (just like I had to do to "DUMBO dalek" with his BRAND NEW sockpuppet acct dalek (& admits he stalks me & ONLY ME if you look @ his post history, only to have me EXTERMINATE him every time))

    SOYLENT NEWS' OWN moderators/admins here KNOW it goes on, big write up here on it in fact https://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=21/08/19/0211237 [soylentnews.org] (on sockpuppeting/downmod bombing LIKE DALEK says he will do to me):

    Once this account is old enough to be eligible to moderate, I'll be happy to give you the spam mods you deserve - by dalek (15489) on Wednesday October 06, @11:10PM (#1184989)

    HOW are you going to do THAT dalek when I've EXTERMINATED you? Especially with that BRAND NEW SOCKPUPPET ACCOUNT you use to STALK me (only me, anyone can see your post history on that note).

    Why would the spike protein produced by mRNA vaccines be extremely dangerous while nearly identical spike proteins on the SARS-CoV-2 virus are benign? That just doesn't make any sense. - by dalek (15489) on Thursday November 04, @10:54PM (#1193491)

    BENIGN? See what it does to vaccinated blood vs. pureblood unvaxed here https://www.brighteon.com/f5032b11-4624-4ce6-b3a3-678485badfc8 [brighteon.com]

    I HAD TO EDUCATE YOU ON HOW mRNA is part of GENETICS involved here https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?noupdate=1&sid=45854&commentsort=0&mode=threadtos&threshold=-1&highlightthresh=-1&page=1&cid=1193514#commentwrap [soylentnews.org]

    Your rants about genetics are irrelevant because my question was about the behavior of the proteins after they're produced - by dalek (15489) on Friday November 05, @02:17AM (#1193555)

    THIS IS ALL ABOUT GENETICS stupid!

    I mean, lol - WHAT IS mRNA after all? ANSWER = A part of protein synthesis involving mRNA, tRNA, & rRNA for the creation of DNA!

    IF RNA single helix strands JOIN improperly into a NEW double-helix DNA (via Guanine, Adenine, Cytosine & Thymine), that creates ERRORS (cancer is 1 possible bad one, mutations another etc.) - see NHEJ below.

    dalek - have you taken any genetics coursework? I have & got A's (as my science elective requirement during my CS degreework) & even I understand that much!

    PROOF OF IT CAUSING DAMAGE is here ON CLOTTING caused by malformed bloodcells (like sickle cell anemia in blacks) https://www.brighteon.com/f5032b11-4624-4ce6-b3a3-678485badfc8 [brighteon.com] in addition to Dr. Richard Fleming

    See Dr. Richard Fleming PhD JD MD proving clotting ONLY AFTER VAX WERE INJECTED: Pfizer Vax Attacks Human Blood Creating Clots Under Microscope https://www.brighteon.com/cca2c396-0750-4dc9-a15e-9a7b5ae05c02 [brighteon.com] (this I have some issues with in that it does not test change over time ala DIFFERENTIAL EQUATIONS but it does show what I say here)

    ---

    ALL BASED ON FALSE POSITIVE RESULT GENERATING PCR TESTS per all the evidences I noted here on that note vs. your bs WHICH HELPED ME PROVE IT https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?noupdate=1&sid=45332&page=1&cid=1185265#commentwrap [soylentnews.org]

    *** IMPORTANT/ADDITIONAL FACT:

    PCR tests DID NOT TEST FOR ANYTHING BUT DNA (double-helix) & what do viruses contain? RNA (single-helix) ONLY!

    (So the CDC got rid of OLD TESTS (that also did false positives due to cycling turned up too high to panic sheeple into taking a CLOT SHOT) & NOW "new tests" are out? No thanks!)

    ---

    PCR test cycles TURNED UP TOO HIGH in cycling per Kary Mullis the NOBEL LAUREATE who was awarded the NOBEL PRIZE for that test (nobody knows it better than he - HE INVENTED IT) DID OCCUR & the fact "new tests" ARE out PROVES IT - but those that took the shot based on FALSE POSITIVE RESULTS I list above ARE IN DEEP SHIT (dead).

    A DOCUMENTARY that further illustrates the BS of the PCR test?

    COVIDLAND https://www.brighteon.com/97ba444b-d3fd-4774-8bed-e9ceb3844fec [brighteon.com]

    ( w/ FAUCI saying "anything over 33 cycles is not worth doing it higher" WHICH THEY DID DO, by testing way, Way, WAY over 33 cycles (so much so, things like a BANANA show "covid positive") to CHUMP YOU into taking the CLOTSHOT - period!)

    ---

    Have they EVER isolated an ACTUAL Covid virus? Apparently NOT per Dr. Kevin Corbett https://www.brighteon.com/e2ffc327-ae29-4eab-9701-77c511e7a854 [brighteon.com] so HOW IN HELL did they make a "vaccine" then?

    ---

    More "VINTAGE" Dalek DUMBO easily disproven BS:

    vaccines don't contain graphene oxide.- by dalek (15489) on Tuesday October 26, @07:37AM (#1190563)

    ELECTRON MICROSCOPY EXPERT Dr. Young SHOWS POISONOUS GRAPHENE IN VACCINES ALSO:

    https://www.brighteon.com/9e58bf44-05e7-4b71-97e5-b243f6cf890c [brighteon.com]

    &

    https://www.brighteon.com/9fbd7735-b49d-4e31-a146-f67d7eb54d75 [brighteon.com]

    FACT!

    IN FACT (pun intended) GRAPHENE OXIDE's in Pfizer, Moderna, Johnson & Johnson (Janssen) + AstraZeneca:

    https://www.brighteon.com/6d8fcfd7-4811-4e64-90c9-bd5585b59ff5 [brighteon.com]

    &

    Guess what is a MAJOR CAUSE of myocarditis, clotting, CANCER MALIGNANCY etc.? That's right: GRAPHENE OXIDE, "surprise, Surprise, SURPRISE" (not).

    ---

    MORE VINTAGE "Dumbo dalek":

    COVID-19 vaccines do not cause cancer - by dalek (15489) on Tuesday October 26, @04:45AM (#1190535)

    Graphene Oxide Promotes Cancer Metastasis https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/31877027/ [nih.gov]

    + MY BEST PAL'S DAD (who took the clotshot & 6 months later DIED of cancer in 3 weeks)

    OR

    MY OWN FATHER who took the shot & has cancer now (again also 6 months later) & THERE IS NO CANCER IN MY FAMILY TREE spanning back GENERATIONS...

    I've SEEN it TWICE in person.

    *** UPDATE: ***

    An Israeli study PROVES that the NHEJ (non-homologous end joining) mechanism in your cells is DAMAGED by SPIKE PROTEINS in the death vax & IT IS LINKED TO CANCER per:

    Text version https://naturalnews.com/2021-11-02-covid-vaccines-inhibit-dna-repair-cause-cancer.html [naturalnews.com]

    ---

    Vaccine makers don't KNOW WHAT THEY'RE DOING (or do & want to kill you)!

    * AND, moreso when a PFizer scientist ADMITS natural immunity is better than taking the CLOTSHOTS (NDA he signed got him scared for it too, admitting it) https://www.brighteon.com/2aa6d13f-e0bb-4fd7-8f7a-fb36df5e0b18 [brighteon.com]

    ---

    Then, the WHO changes the DEFINITION of "pandemic" from NUMBER OF DEATHS vs. NUMBER OF CASES (which "The Wayback Machine" still has evidence of) to make a herd stampede in panic (herd of stupid sheeple) due to false positives from a BOGUS "test" per above, that ROPED DOPES IN as said "panicked sheeple herd" to take a shot that f's you up!

    ---

    E.G. All you have to REALLY "endure" is a flu like condition - e.g. My Mom's 84++ & SURVIVED IT (beating it in 7 days)! However by way of comparison? See what I said of my Father earlier above (cancer now 6 months after taking this bullshit "shot" & THERE IS NO CANCER IN MY FAMILY TREE spanning back generations...)

    * YOUR "CURE" IS WORSE THAN THE DISEASE!

    (Proof is that when your body after vaxing LOSES its IMMUNE SYSTEM (see cytokines below in my ps) & MORE PEOPLE WOULD DIE in FLU SEASON (just starting now 10/2021) & THEY ARE NOW "right on schedule" per https://www.brighteon.com/6b1d70d0-d79d-4cdf-9385-d0a7726c46a1 [brighteon.com] )

    Dr. Sherri Tenpenny "vaxed lose 5% immunity PER WEEK" November 1st 2021 https://www.brighteon.com/bc259499-87c9-430a-9921-fdd75f73217f [brighteon.com]

    Natural news shows the same Are covid "vaccines" giving people AIDS? Immune system functions are dropping around 5% EACH WEEK in those who were vaccinated https://www.naturalnews.com/2021-10-17-are-covid-vaccines-giving-people-aids.html [naturalnews.com]

    The SUPER-COLD in the UK is more evidence thereof https://www.newsletter.co.uk/health/coronavirus/super-cold-or-covid-symptoms-of-uk-super-cold-how-its-different-to-covid-and-how-to-avoid-catching-it-3425076 [newsletter.co.uk]

    (The vax is making you UNABLE to combat a simple cold (a corona virus no less)).

    In fact, due to VARIANTS being produced by the vaxxinated? I'd say the VAX IS THE DISEASE (as it debilitates your immune system to ZERO efficacy eventually & YOU DIE... )

    APK

    P.S.=> Why fix something that's NOT BROKEN (your innate native immune system) UNTIL the vax damages your "killer T" cells proven just above (specifically T1 marker type that marks infestors via cytokines for leukocytes envelop & digestion removal (or possibly lymphocytes doing so also)) - ADE (Antibody Dependent Enhancement that makes your IMMUNE SYSTEM good vs. 1 variant type only, demanding "more boosters" but they can't KEEP UP WITH THE VARIANTS POSSIBLE in permutation "combinatorial explosion" & your "new immune system" can't MARK the variants of CORONA VIRUSES) - especially vs. something that DOES NOT KILL YOU in 99++% of cases minus ANY OTHER "co-morbidities"? Additionally given that - WHY THE "BIG PUSH" to PUSH (like drug dealer PUSHERS do & in this case, "LEGAL" drug dealers) a vax in you that does NOT WORK as advertised in the 1st place ("100% effective" is now as LOW as "3% effective")?? LOOKUP Dr. Franc Zalewski and see EXACTLY why here https://www.brighteon.com/0ff2ee6a-413a-4e4e-b516-831eb394bc90 [brighteon.com] Where he shows SOMEKIND OF ORGANISM self-assembling made of carbon & aluminum floating around in VACCINATED FOLKS' BLOOD doing WHO KNOWS WHAT!... apk103.109.2.76

(1)