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posted by janrinok on Thursday November 18 2021, @01:57AM   Printer-friendly
from the can't-we-all-just-get-along? dept.

From a recent Science Reports paper:

Online debates are often characterised by extreme polarisation and heated discussions among users. The presence of hate speech online is becoming increasingly problematic, making necessary the development of appropriate countermeasures. In this work, we perform hate speech detection on a corpus of more than one million comments on YouTube videos through a machine learning model, trained and fine-tuned on a large set of hand-annotated data.

Our analysis shows that there is no evidence of the presence of "pure haters", meant as active users posting exclusively hateful comments. Moreover, coherently with the echo chamber hypothesis, we find that users skewed towards one of the two categories of video channels (questionable, reliable) are more prone to use inappropriate, violent, or hateful language within their opponents' community.

Interestingly, users loyal to reliable sources use on average a more toxic language than their counterpart. Finally, we find that the overall toxicity of the discussion increases with its length, measured both in terms of the number of comments and time. Our results show that, coherently with Godwin's law, online debates tend to degenerate towards increasingly toxic exchanges of views.

Journal Reference:
M. Cinelli, A. Pelicon, I. Mozetič, et al. Dynamics of online hate and misinformation. [open] Sci Rep 11, 22083 (2021).
DOI: 10.1038/s41598-021-01487-w


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  • (Score: 2, Insightful) by Frosty Piss on Thursday November 18 2021, @04:09AM (14 children)

    by Frosty Piss (4971) on Thursday November 18 2021, @04:09AM (#1197304)

    It’s interesting to see how many of the non-“woke” views, however well argued they may be, are more or less automatically rated as trolls. Apparently open discussion here is not all that open.

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  • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday November 18 2021, @05:20AM (1 child)

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday November 18 2021, @05:20AM (#1197323)

    Careful. Noticing things is almost a crime these days.

    • (Score: 1, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday November 18 2021, @03:29PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Thursday November 18 2021, @03:29PM (#1197429)

      You poor, poor victims. Is nobody listening to your whining? I'm soooorry.

  • (Score: -1, Flamebait) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday November 18 2021, @06:13AM (1 child)

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday November 18 2021, @06:13AM (#1197333)

    Non-woke, well argued? Are you familiar with the concept of contradiction? Non-woke means, asleep, unaware of the real world. Ignorant, stupid, conservative, Republican, and thus they are, actually, trolls. Discussion here is open, to persons willing to engage in rational discussion based on facts. Right-wing Nut-jobs? Not so much. Have you met khallow? Have a go with him, if you dare.

    • (Score: -1, Flamebait) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday November 18 2021, @06:15AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Thursday November 18 2021, @06:15AM (#1197334)

      Dare? Arguing with khallow is a fun hobby, just call him stupid and watch the thread grow.

  • (Score: 0, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday November 18 2021, @06:33AM (2 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday November 18 2021, @06:33AM (#1197336)

    Slamming you pretty hard too.

    How much do you wanna bet that all the downmodders here are democrats?

    • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday November 18 2021, @07:55AM (1 child)

      by Anonymous Coward on Thursday November 18 2021, @07:55AM (#1197348)

      Due to excessive bad posting from this IP or Subnet, anonymous comment posting has temporarily been disabled. You can still login to post. However, if bad posting continues from your IP or Subnet that privilege could be revoked as well. If it's you, consider this a chance to sit in the timeout corner or login and improve your posting. If it's someone else, this is a chance to hunt them down. If you think this is unfair, please email admin@soylentnews.org with your MD5'd IPID and SubnetID, which are "d204c4255513d11f227ec4ce362dc5d7" and "66240b9c2b446bf1a3456a3cf0c3923" and (optionally, but preferably) your IP number "00.00.000.001" and your username "FatPhil".

        Downmodders here are not crazy persons. This is the way it goes now. "Democrat" means nothing. Anti-fa is not an actual thing. But Republican! We have to distinguish between the old school corporate racists, who just want to keep wages down in certain industries, notably Kock Bros. paper, and real racists and "libertarians" like the Kock Bros (one down, one left to go).

      Then there are the flat out racist white supermacists, really stupid fucks like Matt "I did my MiL" Heimlich [wehuntedthemammoth.com]. And demented Richard Spencer [yahoo.com], who also cannot afford competent counsel, apparently.

      And now, with the decapitation videos, not of AlQuaida or ISIL, but from Republican, Paul Gosar [youtube.com] , joining a rather select list of assholes of history [house.gov], so, yeah, must be Democrats, down-modding the Republican violent Nazi positions. Or, it is normal people. What you sick radicals call, "normies". Normies gonna kill your ass, just like in WWII. Expect us, we are the Allies.

      Oh, and I forgot the really stupid Fundie Christians who cannot even read their own Bible, and somehow think Trump is an epitome of Biblical virtues, without sin! Outside the fornication. And the Usury. And the Idolatry. And the eating pizza with a fork. Some sins are just unforgivable.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday November 18 2021, @08:35PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Thursday November 18 2021, @08:35PM (#1197552)

        Expect us, we are the Allies.

        Say goodnight, ari

  • (Score: -1, Flamebait) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday November 18 2021, @06:38AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday November 18 2021, @06:38AM (#1197338)

    Don't throw stones, piss boy.

  • (Score: 3, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday November 18 2021, @09:14AM (1 child)

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday November 18 2021, @09:14AM (#1197362)

    Shocking no one at all the unhinged lunacy of repugnicans gets voted down. Anyone using woke as an insult just shows how dumb and or hate filled they are. What are you trying to say? Caring about inequality and demanding justice is bad now? I realize you lot get lied to all the time, but still how can you not see through the lies after a short time? Must be why they are constantly hopping to new issues, keep conservatives constantly worried about new 'threats' otherwise after a decade of the same liberal monsters even boomers would realize their media is full of shit.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday November 18 2021, @10:46AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Thursday November 18 2021, @10:46AM (#1197370)

      The problem with the term woke is the same as any other broad brush grouping. It's inevitably overbroad, and rather than address the specific issue in context when it happens (individual detailed cases of racism, particularly institutional), we use the term woke and discard all nuance.

      No matter how good your argument is, virtue signaling "woke" or "non-woke" is detrimental to the discussion.

  • (Score: 1, Troll) by Phoenix666 on Thursday November 18 2021, @04:11PM (3 children)

    by Phoenix666 (552) on Thursday November 18 2021, @04:11PM (#1197453) Journal

    Those who accept the Woke narrative feel comfortable in it, because the media, government, and Fortune 500 companies are driving it. They don't feel the need to defend it, because repeating it ad nauseum is much easier. Goebbels did say that repeating a lie 10,000 times makes it indistinguishable from the truth, but that's not ringing any alarm bells with them right now.

    If they were alert, they would be still be questioning Big Tech, the media, the government, the Fortune 500, and all the usual players as closely as they used to. They would be asking if it's a good thing for a couple of giant companies to have the power to silence voices they don't like. They would be asking if it's really a good thing for communities of color who have struggled with economic disadvantages in the US to have to compete with millions of illegal aliens who will work for less than minimum wage and displace them in the job market. They would ask why it's OK for the government to sic the FBI on parents who attend school board meetings.

    --
    Washington DC delenda est.
    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday November 18 2021, @05:32PM (2 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Thursday November 18 2021, @05:32PM (#1197483)

      *eyes be a rollin'*

      There are solutions but you'll have to put the Fox News down before you stand a chance of doing more than regress into rambling rightwing talking points.

      • (Score: 1, Flamebait) by Phoenix666 on Thursday November 18 2021, @08:52PM (1 child)

        by Phoenix666 (552) on Thursday November 18 2021, @08:52PM (#1197558) Journal

        There are solutions but you'll have to put the Fox News down before you stand a chance of doing more than regress into rambling rightwing talking points.

        Oh yes. The magic solutions that are unknowable to any except the hyper-intelligent like you?

        Can you write or argue in anything that is not a rambling, spastic woke talking point? I doubt it, because if you could bring it, you would.

        --
        Washington DC delenda est.
        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday November 19 2021, @05:10AM

          by Anonymous Coward on Friday November 19 2021, @05:10AM (#1197657)

          To be fair, he does write the occasionally semi-coherent blog. The one about Kant being the source of CRT was at least factually correct (he isn't). Of course the context was still the usual propaganda and bullshit.