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Largest U.S. Bank Cuts Ties, CancelingTrump Jr. Event

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Largest U.S. Bank Cuts Ties to Conservative Group, Canceling Donald Trump Jr. Event

The country's largest bank has cut ties with a Missouri conservative group, forcing an event that had been set to feature Donald Trump Jr. to be immediately canceled.

[....] Defense of Liberty founder Paul Curtman, a former GOP state representative, told the Missouri Independent that WePay informed him in a message that it would no longer do business with his group based on an alleged violation of terms of service and had refunded $30,000 in payments already processed for the event.

"It seems you're using WePay Payments for one or more of the activities prohibited by our terms of service," the message reportedly states. "More specifically: Per our terms of service, we are unable to process for hate, violence, racial intolerance, terrorism, the financial exploitation of a crime, or items or activities that encourage, promote, facilitate, or instruct others regarding the same."

Maybe Trump Jr and Defense of Liberty political action committee should not promote such things?

Or . . . maybe those things are their core message, and appeal to their base.

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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 20 2021, @02:41AM (4 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 20 2021, @02:41AM (#1197977)
    Unless you're a bank in the same country where wikileaks is hosted, you're free to tell them to fuck off wrt ANY service. Same as a bank can (and often does) refuse to open accounts for non-residents.

    Do you know what "stealthing" is? It's removing a condom during sex without informing your partner. Assange pulled this shit at least twice, and many countries consider this to be non-consensual sex, making him a rapist. He kind of lost sympathy with many who followed his actions.

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 20 2021, @04:34AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 20 2021, @04:34AM (#1197997)

    That was the claim, and never actually proven. It was treated as the foundation of a charge that was ostensibly politically motivated, and apparently on very shaky grounds.

  • (Score: 1) by khallow on Saturday November 20 2021, @04:38AM (2 children)

    by khallow (3766) on Saturday November 20 2021, @04:38AM (#1197998) Journal

    Do you know what "stealthing" is? It's removing a condom during sex without informing your partner. Assange pulled this shit at least twice, and many countries consider this to be non-consensual sex, making him a rapist. He kind of lost sympathy with many who followed his actions.

    Red herring. That had nothing to do with the funding of Wikileaks, even if it were true. Banks are just as justified pulling your banking services for that as they are Wikileaks.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 20 2021, @08:13PM (1 child)

      by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 20 2021, @08:13PM (#1198133)
      And you refuse to acknowledge my point that non-resident persons and businesses are routinely denied bank accounts. No need to supply a reason, so either address the issue or stop your bullshit. on-residents are not entitled to service, though banks can choose to give them banking services if they have significant assets in the country, such as a second home. Or a correspondent relationship with a bank in their home country.

      • (Score: 1) by khallow on Sunday November 21 2021, @04:35AM

        by khallow (3766) on Sunday November 21 2021, @04:35AM (#1198246) Journal

        And you refuse to acknowledge my point that non-resident persons and businesses are routinely denied bank accounts.

        You didn't make that point earlier. But if you had, I would have noted that Wikileaks was based [wikipedia.org] in Iceland, and that one of their primary payment processors was also in Iceland (and lost [wired.com] a court case concerning that boycott).

        The Icelandic partner of Visa and MasterCard violated contract laws when it imposed a block against credit card donations to the secret-spilling site WikiLeaks, a district court there has ruled.

        The Reykjavík District Court ruled that Valitor, which handles Visa and MasterCard payments in Iceland, was in the wrong when it prevented card holders from donating funds to the site. The court ruled that the block should be removed within 14 days or Valitor will be fined the equivalent of about $6,000 a day.

        Notice the phrase "violated contract laws". When these payment processors make a contract with Wikileaks, they make a contract which remains enforceable even if the other party is not a resident. But most of the parties involved, including Wikileaks, have residence in multiple countries and hence, that excuse doesn't fly. A typical approach is for a local office to make a contract with the local office of the other party.