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New homes in England to have electric car chargers by law:
New homes and buildings in England will be required by law to install electric vehicle charging points from next year, the prime minister is set to announce.
The government said the move will see up to 145,000 charging points installed across the country each year.
New-build supermarkets, workplaces and buildings undergoing major renovations will also come under the new law.
The move comes as the UK aims to switch to electric cars, with new petrol and diesel cars sales banned from 2030.
A turkey in every pot, and a charge point in every garage...
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TOO BAD YOU CAN'T BUY a voodoo globe so that you could make the earth spin
real fast and freak everybody out.
-- Jack Handey, The New Mexican, 1988.
(Score: 3, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday November 23 2021, @12:57AM (22 children)
This is typical of british lawmaking, as expertly explained in Yes, Minister.
"Something must be done! This is something, therefore we must do it."
The housing stock in the UK is inadequate, and wrapped up in a vast number of idiotic limitations, regulations and processes. Now they've just added one to the tottering pile that is mostly of interest to the well-to-do bourgeoisie, and those who would dictate to them.
But the UK government is made up of long-standing experts in the fine art of doing things that sounded like good ideas after half a dozen pints.
(Score: 3, Insightful) by acid andy on Tuesday November 23 2021, @01:06AM (2 children)
As long as there's money to be made for the politicians, or their friends / relations / donors, why would they care?
If a cat has kittens, does a rat have rittens, a bat bittens and a mat mittens?
(Score: 2) by arslan on Wednesday November 24 2021, @03:04AM (1 child)
Yep sounds like every other elected or pretend-elect government out there.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday November 24 2021, @04:23AM
All national governments are oligarchies.
(Score: 5, Funny) by Gaaark on Tuesday November 23 2021, @01:17AM (2 children)
"Well that's a very brave decision Minister."
"IS IT???!!??" with horrified look on his face.
"Yes, Minister...."
--- Please remind me if I haven't been civil to you: I'm channeling MDC. ---Gaaark 2.0 ---
(Score: 4, Funny) by driverless on Tuesday November 23 2021, @11:34AM (1 child)
Not brave, courageous: '"Controversial" only means "this will lose you votes". "Courageous" means "this will lose you the election"!'.
(Score: 2) by Gaaark on Tuesday November 23 2021, @02:22PM
James Hacker:
Why is it that Ministers can't ever go anywhere without their briefs?
Bernard Woolley:
It's in case they get caught with their trousers down.
--- Please remind me if I haven't been civil to you: I'm channeling MDC. ---Gaaark 2.0 ---
(Score: 0, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday November 23 2021, @02:31AM (5 children)
the housing stock in the UK is inadequate only because they are letting themselves be invaded. If they had the strength of their forbearers, and slaughtered all invaders, there would be plenty of housing.
But they don't, so their children are raped by their new masters.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday November 23 2021, @10:25AM (3 children)
England's been conquered at least three times, by the Romans, the Anglo-Saxon-Jutes, and by the Normans.
(Score: -1, Spam) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday November 23 2021, @05:43PM (1 child)
stfu, you Bolshevik's useful idiot. White tribes don't count, bitch. The other anon was talking about their treasonous politicians helping the Jews bring in non-whites to destroy the native(white/euro, not just picts or some stupid strawman shit) population.
(Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday November 23 2021, @09:26PM
Concerned passerby: "Why do you keep hitting yourself in the balls with things like Brexit?"
APK: "I HATE FOREIGNERS!! OWWWWW THAT FUCKING HURTS SCUMBAG MINORITIES!!!" *punches self in balls again*
You really should see someone professionally if you want to escape your weird self-inflicted suffering.
(Score: 2) by Nuke on Wednesday November 24 2021, @07:06PM
> England's been conquered at least three times
True, and the result was always seriously bad for the existing inhabitants. Some Roman officials (strictly speaking, Romano-British) actually invited Anglo-Saxons in, hoping the incomers would be on their side in their local disputes with other Romans. Very much like Tony Blair and other European politicians welcoming immigrants on the assumption that they would vote for them in the future. In fact the Anglo-Saxons had no interest in internal Roman squabbles and swept them aside, either driving them into Wales or making slaves of them.
(Score: -1, Offtopic) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday November 23 2021, @05:50PM
https://odysee.com/@ETKE21:8/pbry68WhiteGenocideIsReal-InTheirOwnWords:0 [odysee.com]
(Score: 2) by legont on Tuesday November 23 2021, @05:08AM (2 children)
I am sure it's free market at work.
"Wealth is the relentless enemy of understanding" - John Kenneth Galbraith.
(Score: 2, Informative) by Dr Spin on Tuesday November 23 2021, @10:53AM (1 child)
As a UK resident, I can assure you that the market here is NOT free - it is, in fact, extremely expensive,
and the profit goes to corrupt politicians (all those in a position to steal it). Linux is free.
Self driving cars are probably safer than politicians driving cars, but we have laws against driving under the influence, so that is not the problem it might be.
And Peppa Pig is anti-male propaganda. (Have you never watched it?)
Warning: Opening your mouth may invalidate your brain!
(Score: 2) by arslan on Wednesday November 24 2021, @05:57AM
Yea I was quite suspicious of George...
(Score: 4, Informative) by choose another one on Tuesday November 23 2021, @02:48PM (4 children)
> The housing stock in the UK is inadequate, and wrapped up in a vast number of idiotic limitations, regulations and processes.
Oh it's much more than that.
40% of UK housing stock doesn't even _have_ offstreet parking, without which it isn't practical (and possibly not legal - I'm sure I've seen suppliers refuse to sell claiming it isn't) to install a charging point anyway.
For a large fraction of that housing stock it's not even possible to add off-street parking if it was a requirement for the (to be mandatory) charger - due to physical space / access constraints.
To retrofit chargers with parking spaces you'd have to raze entire streets/areas and build back at a _lower_ density which raises practical issues like where are the rest of the people who lived there before going to live - it's not as if the UK has enough housing for everyone anyway.
And that's before we get anywhere near the rules and regulations issues around planning permission, conservation areas, listed buildings etc.
(Score: 2) by Thexalon on Tuesday November 23 2021, @07:58PM
Depending on where that 40% of housing stock is, I'd think a lack of off-street parking wouldn't be a problem in the slightest. For instance, if you're talking about an area of Greater London with excellent access to the Underground, I'd expect a lot of would-be residents would be happy to live there and rely on those trains to get around. Or if you're a pensioner in a rural village taking occasional trips to the local shops, pub, and church, I suspect you might consider just walking because it's entirely possible we're talking about trips of 300m or so (I'm basing this on one place I visited as a kid, but I'm figuring it wasn't all that uncommon because it wasn't really a touristy spot).
I'm just an ignorant American, though, so maybe the Brits have more need of a car than I thought.
The only thing that stops a bad guy with a compiler is a good guy with a compiler.
(Score: 2) by aliks on Tuesday November 23 2021, @10:45PM (2 children)
Nonsense - they put the charging points into street lights , so you dont need a cable running out of your house into the street. You don't even need to park outside your house, you can use any connected street light
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(Score: 3, Insightful) by choose another one on Wednesday November 24 2021, @02:40PM
> Nonsense - they put the charging points into street lights
I actually live in a (typical English) town with large areas of terraced housing. I have never seen a charging point in a street light. I can't even see how they'd work since our street lights are the other side of the pavement US: sidewalk) from the cars - how do you run the cable without causing a trip hazard, do they go overhead on a boom somehow?
I know you _can_ put popup chargers at/into the roadside or have them permanently "up" like a parking meter, and you can probably use the street-lighting circuit for power - but someone actually has to _do_ that, and it can't be the individual householders, and, again, it ain't happening, not anywhere that I've seen. The amount of infrastructure build out required means it needs to have started years ago to be ready by 2030, and it hasn't, so it won't be.
(Score: 2) by Nuke on Wednesday November 24 2021, @06:51PM
> Nonsense - they put the charging points into street lights
In a typical UK street, there are nowhere near as many street lights as houses or flats. You could have multiple outlets in a street light, but some long cable runs to the cars would be needed.
(Score: 3, Funny) by bussdriver on Tuesday November 23 2021, @06:05PM
As also shown in Yes Minister, the staff is much smarter, better educated, and far more competent than the politicians. The main problem highlighted are the staff stopping changes from happening.... which is exaggerated but realistic as the people who actually must make things work don't want to break what works already; plus they make easy scapegoats for stupid ideas (see USA which beats dead horses routinely with 40% always blaming the horse and electing the buggers.)
(Score: 2) by bussdriver on Tuesday November 23 2021, @06:07PM
Housing problems are NOT caused by the building regulations. Unless you are talking 3rd world unsafe slum shacks being prohibited. Far bigger more complex problems contribute to housing problems.