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posted by janrinok on Tuesday November 23 2021, @12:32AM   Printer-friendly
from the grid-locked dept.

New homes in England to have electric car chargers by law:

New homes and buildings in England will be required by law to install electric vehicle charging points from next year, the prime minister is set to announce.

The government said the move will see up to 145,000 charging points installed across the country each year.

New-build supermarkets, workplaces and buildings undergoing major renovations will also come under the new law.

The move comes as the UK aims to switch to electric cars, with new petrol and diesel cars sales banned from 2030.

A turkey in every pot, and a charge point in every garage...


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  • (Score: 4, Informative) by choose another one on Tuesday November 23 2021, @02:48PM (4 children)

    by choose another one (515) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday November 23 2021, @02:48PM (#1198885)

    > The housing stock in the UK is inadequate, and wrapped up in a vast number of idiotic limitations, regulations and processes.

    Oh it's much more than that.

    40% of UK housing stock doesn't even _have_ offstreet parking, without which it isn't practical (and possibly not legal - I'm sure I've seen suppliers refuse to sell claiming it isn't) to install a charging point anyway.
    For a large fraction of that housing stock it's not even possible to add off-street parking if it was a requirement for the (to be mandatory) charger - due to physical space / access constraints.
    To retrofit chargers with parking spaces you'd have to raze entire streets/areas and build back at a _lower_ density which raises practical issues like where are the rest of the people who lived there before going to live - it's not as if the UK has enough housing for everyone anyway.

    And that's before we get anywhere near the rules and regulations issues around planning permission, conservation areas, listed buildings etc.

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  • (Score: 2) by Thexalon on Tuesday November 23 2021, @07:58PM

    by Thexalon (636) on Tuesday November 23 2021, @07:58PM (#1199002)

    40% of UK housing stock doesn't even _have_ offstreet parking

    Depending on where that 40% of housing stock is, I'd think a lack of off-street parking wouldn't be a problem in the slightest. For instance, if you're talking about an area of Greater London with excellent access to the Underground, I'd expect a lot of would-be residents would be happy to live there and rely on those trains to get around. Or if you're a pensioner in a rural village taking occasional trips to the local shops, pub, and church, I suspect you might consider just walking because it's entirely possible we're talking about trips of 300m or so (I'm basing this on one place I visited as a kid, but I'm figuring it wasn't all that uncommon because it wasn't really a touristy spot).

    I'm just an ignorant American, though, so maybe the Brits have more need of a car than I thought.

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  • (Score: 2) by aliks on Tuesday November 23 2021, @10:45PM (2 children)

    by aliks (357) on Tuesday November 23 2021, @10:45PM (#1199074)

    Nonsense - they put the charging points into street lights , so you dont need a cable running out of your house into the street. You don't even need to park outside your house, you can use any connected street light

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    • (Score: 3, Insightful) by choose another one on Wednesday November 24 2021, @02:40PM

      by choose another one (515) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday November 24 2021, @02:40PM (#1199207)

      > Nonsense - they put the charging points into street lights

      I actually live in a (typical English) town with large areas of terraced housing. I have never seen a charging point in a street light. I can't even see how they'd work since our street lights are the other side of the pavement US: sidewalk) from the cars - how do you run the cable without causing a trip hazard, do they go overhead on a boom somehow?

      I know you _can_ put popup chargers at/into the roadside or have them permanently "up" like a parking meter, and you can probably use the street-lighting circuit for power - but someone actually has to _do_ that, and it can't be the individual householders, and, again, it ain't happening, not anywhere that I've seen. The amount of infrastructure build out required means it needs to have started years ago to be ready by 2030, and it hasn't, so it won't be.

    • (Score: 2) by Nuke on Wednesday November 24 2021, @06:51PM

      by Nuke (3162) on Wednesday November 24 2021, @06:51PM (#1199277)

      > Nonsense - they put the charging points into street lights

      In a typical UK street, there are nowhere near as many street lights as houses or flats. You could have multiple outlets in a street light, but some long cable runs to the cars would be needed.