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posted by janrinok on Tuesday November 23 2021, @08:51AM   Printer-friendly
from the just-giving-the-idea-a-plug dept.

Macrogrid study: Big value in connecting America's eastern and western power grids:

Those seven threads (technically, they're back-to-back, high-voltage, direct-current connections) join America's Eastern and Western interconnections and have 1,320 megawatts of electric-power handling capacity. (The seam separating the grids runs, roughly, from eastern Montana, down the western borders of South Dakota, Nebraska and Kansas and along the western edges of the Oklahoma and Texas panhandles. Texas, with its own grid, is mostly outside the two big grids.)

And they are big grids -- the eastern grid has a generating capacity of 700,000 megawatts and the western 250,000 megawatts. So, up to 1,320 megawatts isn't much electricity moving between the two.

But what if there were bigger connections between the two grids? What if more power moved back and forth? Could that move Iowa wind power, Southwest solar power and Eastern off-shore wind power from coast to coast? Could the West help the East meet its peak demand, and vice versa? Would bigger connections boost grid reliability, resilience and adaptability? Would the benefits exceed the costs?

The short answer: Yes.

That's according to the Interconnections Seam Study, a two-year, $1.5 million study launched as part of a $220 million Grid Modernization Initiative announced in January 2016 by the U.S. Department of Energy.

[...] "The results show benefit-to-cost ratios that reach as high as 2.5, indicating significant value to increasing the transmission capacity between the interconnections under the cases considered, realized through sharing generation resources and flexibility across regions," says a summary of the latest paper.

"So, for every dollar invested, you get up to $2.50 back," said James McCalley, an Iowa State Anson Marston Distinguished Professor in Engineering, the Jack London Chair in Power Systems Engineering and a co-author of the papers.

How much would you have to invest? McCalley said it would take an estimated $50 billion to build what researchers are calling a "macrogrid" of major transmission lines that loop around the Midwest and West, with branches filling in the middle and connecting to Texas and the Southeast.

Journal References:
1.) Aaron Bloom, Josh Novacheck, Gregory L. Brinkman, et al. The Value of Increased HVDC Capacity Between Eastern and Western U.S. Grids: The Interconnections Seam Study, (DOI: 10.1109/TPWRS.2021.3115092)
2.) Armando L. Figueroa Acevedo, Ali Jahanbani-Ardakani, Hussam Nosair, et al. Design and Valuation of High-Capacity HVDC Macrogrid Transmission for the Continental US, (DOI: 10.1109/TPWRS.2020.2970865)


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  • (Score: 5, Insightful) by RedGreen on Tuesday November 23 2021, @09:25AM (7 children)

    by RedGreen (888) on Tuesday November 23 2021, @09:25AM (#1198843)

    getting it built the NIMBY morons will be out in force. They like all the modern conveniences but do not like the needed means of doing it when it comes near them. Just look at the problems now the all the but the power lines affect me or the but the ultrasonic sound from the turbines crap they do. Then add in the parasite corporation who stand to lose their rip-off pricing gouging and the proposal is dead in the water when those bribes start getting paid to the politicians, opps campaign contributions they like to call them...

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  • (Score: 0, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday November 23 2021, @10:22AM (2 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday November 23 2021, @10:22AM (#1198846)

    Look, we all know that although the Communists like AOC are pushing electric down our throats as a form of mind control, and most experts agree that windmills kill endangered birds and cause cancer. There is in fact nothing wrong with fossil fuels, the “Global Warming” nonsense was created out of thin air by the Illuminati and Trilaterals. These are the same yahoos that want to alter you DNA with this pointless Covid “vaccine”. Don’t listen to the lies.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday November 23 2021, @09:18PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday November 23 2021, @09:18PM (#1199028)

      We all hope you are only trolling with every conspiracy invented by idiots.

    • (Score: 2) by hendrikboom on Tuesday November 23 2021, @10:56PM

      by hendrikboom (1125) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday November 23 2021, @10:56PM (#1199078) Homepage Journal

      Massive reduction in bird deaths if you paint just one of the three rotors a different colour.

  • (Score: -1, Offtopic) by RedGreen on Tuesday November 23 2021, @11:45AM

    by RedGreen (888) on Tuesday November 23 2021, @11:45AM (#1198856)

    Apparently some NIBMY moron got all offended and down voted me, sorry about your luck asshole have another to go at.

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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday November 23 2021, @12:11PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday November 23 2021, @12:11PM (#1198862)

    If FERC is involved, existing rights-of-way will get a lot more transmission lines. Once you've got one on/near your property, you can expect more.

    Happened to me--rural property/retreat with an old/small natural gas pipeline. Now we have a 24" pipeline paralleling the old one. Along the way the pipeline took down about 10,000 trees along a quarter mile right-or-way (many were small but they paid for over 1000 of them).

  • (Score: 2, Interesting) by khallow on Tuesday November 23 2021, @01:47PM

    by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday November 23 2021, @01:47PM (#1198876) Journal

    getting it built the NIMBY morons will be out in force. They like all the modern conveniences but do not like the needed means of doing it when it comes near them.

    Cool story, bro, but it's just not that hard to build interconnects that go nowhere near populated areas or charismatic wilderness. There's the assertion in the story that "the benefits exceed the costs". But what's missing is that there's a lot of cost, and just not that much benefit. The article here reminds me of those vendor contractors who are paid to show you that you need their business products.

    If we really were looking at such a great ROI, then why aren't the businesses who built the present interconnects, building more such? Answer: they've figured out the costs and benefits on their own.

    Finally, just how much generation capacity is there really? That 1320 MW of connection is 24 hours with more uptime than even a well-run nuclear plant. 1000 MW of solar power, for example, gets chopped by crudely a factor of three or four (or more, if it's in cloudy regions) when it's averaged over a whole day.

    It strikes me that a better approach is to come up with demand that can be fired up when electric power is cheap - for example, cryptocurrency mining.

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday November 23 2021, @05:55PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday November 23 2021, @05:55PM (#1198960)

    Tie it all together, so we can all go down together.

    I think I read something like that in "The Art Of War."