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posted by janrinok on Thursday November 25 2021, @07:08AM   Printer-friendly
from the CoCs dept.

https://github.com/rust-lang/team/pull/671

The entire moderation team resigns, effective immediately. This resignation is done in protest of the Core Team placing themselves unaccountable to anyone but themselves.

As a result of such structural unaccountability, we have been unable to enforce the Rust Code of Conduct to the standards the community expects of us and to the standards we hold ourselves to. To leave under these circumstances deeply pains us, and we apologize to all of those that we have let down. In recognition that we are out of options from the perspective of Rust Governance, we feel as though we have no course remaining to us but to step down and make this statement.

In so doing, we would offer a few suggestions to the community writ large:

  • We suggest that Rust Team Members come to a consensus on a process for oversight over the Core Team. Currently, they are answerable only to themselves, which is a property unique to them in contrast to all other Rust teams.

  • In the interest of not perpetuating unaccountability, we recommend that the replacement for the Mod Team be made by Rust Team Members not on the Core Team.
  • We suggest that the future Mod Team, with advice from Rust Team Members, proactively decide how best to handle and discover unhealthy conflict among Rust Team Members. We suggest that the Mod Team work with the Foundation in obtaining resources for professional mediation.

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  • (Score: 4, Insightful) by esperto123 on Thursday November 25 2021, @11:10AM (6 children)

    by esperto123 (4303) on Thursday November 25 2021, @11:10AM (#1199499)

    That's interesting, thank you for the link.
    The summary didn't say much about what was the CoC violation and I assumed it was a similar situation to Stallman where the CoC team was just looking into pushing out some old fart that didn't follow 100% the party line (and that they though was a pedophile, or at least pedo-friendly, for basically say that people shouldn't jump to conclusions), but looking into the link you sent it is actually a woman being extremely misandrist and racist to white people. At least the CoC team seams consistent, if you gonna apply the rules it should be valid if you talk shit about A and B, not only to A or B.

    I particularly think that professional contributions should not mix with personal statements, if what she said was part of rust development discussions or part of the code/comments the CoC should be applied, but if those are on personal account, not linked directly to the project in anyway, it shouldn't affect. Assholes are part of life unfortunately, but unless they make it difficult to contribute to the project (i.e., being aggressive/disrespectful in code change reviews), and actually contribute to the project getting forward, they should be let to stay.

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  • (Score: 3, Insightful) by srobert on Thursday November 25 2021, @03:42PM (3 children)

    by srobert (4803) on Thursday November 25 2021, @03:42PM (#1199563)

    "Assholes are part of life unfortunately..."

    That's why I think the only useful COC to attach to a project is a one-liner.

    COC: "Don't be an asshole." EOF

    • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday November 25 2021, @07:04PM (1 child)

      by Anonymous Coward on Thursday November 25 2021, @07:04PM (#1199609)

      Won't work. Who decides who's an asshole? That's right - other assholes.

      • (Score: 3, Funny) by Joe Desertrat on Saturday November 27 2021, @03:00AM

        by Joe Desertrat (2454) on Saturday November 27 2021, @03:00AM (#1199889)

        Who decides who's an asshole? That's right - other assholes.

        I knew it! I'm surrounded by assholes!

    • (Score: 1) by charon on Friday November 26 2021, @03:34AM

      by charon (5660) on Friday November 26 2021, @03:34AM (#1199708) Journal
      The web game Kingdom of Loathing has a ToS of exactly this. There is a staff member who makes decisions in case of disputes, but the devs suggest everyone think about this rule as follows: If you have ask yourself if what you're about to do would make you an asshole, it probably would, so don't do the thing. Unfortunately this requires reflection and self-criticism, capacities that many people do not possess.
  • (Score: -1, Flamebait) by Anonymous Coward on Friday November 26 2021, @06:28AM (1 child)

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday November 26 2021, @06:28AM (#1199724)

    Basically a man hating whamen was asked to be held responsible for stuff men are being fired for left and right without right to due process. Nothing happened. Conservatives rejoice because social justice is being ridiculed. Democrats rejoice because whamen was put on a pedestal.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 27 2021, @08:09AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 27 2021, @08:09AM (#1199925)

      Truth hurts to moderators