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posted by janrinok on Thursday November 25 2021, @07:08AM   Printer-friendly
from the CoCs dept.

https://github.com/rust-lang/team/pull/671

The entire moderation team resigns, effective immediately. This resignation is done in protest of the Core Team placing themselves unaccountable to anyone but themselves.

As a result of such structural unaccountability, we have been unable to enforce the Rust Code of Conduct to the standards the community expects of us and to the standards we hold ourselves to. To leave under these circumstances deeply pains us, and we apologize to all of those that we have let down. In recognition that we are out of options from the perspective of Rust Governance, we feel as though we have no course remaining to us but to step down and make this statement.

In so doing, we would offer a few suggestions to the community writ large:

  • We suggest that Rust Team Members come to a consensus on a process for oversight over the Core Team. Currently, they are answerable only to themselves, which is a property unique to them in contrast to all other Rust teams.

  • In the interest of not perpetuating unaccountability, we recommend that the replacement for the Mod Team be made by Rust Team Members not on the Core Team.
  • We suggest that the future Mod Team, with advice from Rust Team Members, proactively decide how best to handle and discover unhealthy conflict among Rust Team Members. We suggest that the Mod Team work with the Foundation in obtaining resources for professional mediation.

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  • (Score: 2, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday November 25 2021, @11:35AM (9 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday November 25 2021, @11:35AM (#1199500)

    Whatever motivated you to accept this fluff as a story?

    Both the pull request and the reddit discussion are completely devoid of context other than hearsay claims of 'misandry'.

    Was your motivation to poke fun at the 'woke' community or the Rust community - we already had one daft submission about how real men program in C this week.

    either way, our resident unreformed boomer couldn't resist.

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  • (Score: 2, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday November 25 2021, @12:22PM (4 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday November 25 2021, @12:22PM (#1199513)

    We've discussed the CoC situation and toxicity of SJW's extensively on this site. Beyond ignoring them, a correct and appropriate response to this Ashley Williams person would simply be to mock them but that would in itself be a CoC violation. As one user on the reddit thread linked by Subsentient explained:

    Nothing is going to happen to Ashley. That's not the point. The point is this exposes CoCs for what they really are: a weapon for certain people to use against their enemies. It assists in ideological purges of undesirables but doesn't apply to those with the appropriate ideology. CoCs are a fraud, in other words.

    Pathetic as they are, I don't have a problem with any of the supposedly offensive tweets, occurring as they did on a personal account. My position has always been that people are entitled to their personal views and gender, sexuality and race are irrelevant to technical collaboration. I also, however, fully reserve the right to call people on their bullshit as any self-respecting adult should. That is, no self-respecting adult would ever submit to rules privileging the childish and mentally ill over themselves.

    If you don't see the relevance pertaining to a project like Rust, you don't know why myself (and others) avoid that language and it's community like the plague. But don't let that stop you invoking "boomer" slurs as ageist discrimination and further, flagrant demonstration of woke ("Rules for thee but not for me") hypocrisy!

    • (Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday November 25 2021, @03:11PM (3 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Thursday November 25 2021, @03:11PM (#1199551)

      > That is, no self-respecting adult would ever submit to rules privileging the childish and mentally ill over themselves.

      BZZZZT oh so close, only 100% wrong. Brah.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday November 25 2021, @03:38PM (2 children)

        by Anonymous Coward on Thursday November 25 2021, @03:38PM (#1199560)

        BZZZZT oh so close, only 100% wrong. Brah.

        The world is not your safe space and I am not a child. Once you realize narcissism is an infantilizing personality disorder... [psychologytoday.com]

        Being treated as a child doesn’t mean you have to be one forever once you recognize your own potential to be a grown-up.

        To clarify, if you don't want to be treated like a child you also have to stop acting like one and take responsibility for yourself. You can be getting on with that, right after you clean your room bucko!

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday November 25 2021, @09:42PM (1 child)

          by Anonymous Coward on Thursday November 25 2021, @09:42PM (#1199642)

          Ah yes, the irony of republicunts whining about safe spaces. Happy Holidays you whiny bitch ;^)

          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday November 25 2021, @10:00PM

            by Anonymous Coward on Thursday November 25 2021, @10:00PM (#1199649)

            Damn libs shrunk the turkeys and made them more expensive. Waaaaaaaaaaaaaah! I don't like them.

  • (Score: 5, TouchĂ©) by janrinok on Thursday November 25 2021, @12:35PM (2 children)

    by janrinok (52) Subscriber Badge on Thursday November 25 2021, @12:35PM (#1199515) Journal

    1. It was submitted by a member of our community, and it accurately portrays the state of affairs regarding CoC and their (ab)use. It is worthy of discussion, but I cannot be held responsible for every comment made any more that you can held responsible for the comments made in response to your contributions.

    2. I haven't poked fun at anybody. My only comment was directed at someone who wished to introduce their own political views against another member of our community. That was both unnessary and off topic.

    3. I can do nothing to change when I was born and I don't recall being consulted about it, but I haven't found a reason for me to 'reform' who I am. Perhaps I am contravening your own personal CoC? Tough!

    • (Score: 3, Insightful) by PiMuNu on Thursday November 25 2021, @01:51PM

      by PiMuNu (3823) on Thursday November 25 2021, @01:51PM (#1199530)

      I for one appreciate the submission. Always interesting to see what is going on in the coding bollitics.

      Having said that, I think comments on the (in)appropriate uses of spoons are probably the most appropriate response to half the threads.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday November 26 2021, @03:51PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Friday November 26 2021, @03:51PM (#1199779)

      I appreciate this submission.It is nice to read about crap like this before experiencing it.

      On another news site a story was linked about how a company was torn apart by SJW. It is things lime this and the insights learned by others that can be so valuable to know when it happens to you.

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 27 2021, @01:01AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 27 2021, @01:01AM (#1199861)

    we already had one daft submission about how real men program in C this week.

    Huh? Do you mean C is the Greenest Programming Language [soylentnews.org] (links to Energy Efficiency across Programming Languages [uminho.pt])?