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Rust Language Moderation Team Resigns

posted by janrinok on Thursday November 25 2021, @07:08AM   Printer-friendly
from the CoCs dept.

An Anonymous Coward writes:

https://github.com/rust-lang/team/pull/671

The entire moderation team resigns, effective immediately. This resignation is done in protest of the Core Team placing themselves unaccountable to anyone but themselves.

As a result of such structural unaccountability, we have been unable to enforce the Rust Code of Conduct to the standards the community expects of us and to the standards we hold ourselves to. To leave under these circumstances deeply pains us, and we apologize to all of those that we have let down. In recognition that we are out of options from the perspective of Rust Governance, we feel as though we have no course remaining to us but to step down and make this statement.

In so doing, we would offer a few suggestions to the community writ large:

  • We suggest that Rust Team Members come to a consensus on a process for oversight over the Core Team. Currently, they are answerable only to themselves, which is a property unique to them in contrast to all other Rust teams.

  • In the interest of not perpetuating unaccountability, we recommend that the replacement for the Mod Team be made by Rust Team Members not on the Core Team.
  • We suggest that the future Mod Team, with advice from Rust Team Members, proactively decide how best to handle and discover unhealthy conflict among Rust Team Members. We suggest that the Mod Team work with the Foundation in obtaining resources for professional mediation.

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  • (Score: 1) by khallow on Thursday November 25 2021, @11:45AM (4 children)

    by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Thursday November 25 2021, @11:45AM (#1199502) Journal

    If anything it's a node js issue..

    Unless she's saying the same things on rust forums as well. It is common for people who are problems in one area or organization to be the same sort of problem elsewhere. I suppose if that really is going on, then we'll see some evidence for it.

    I say all of this as the type of person she's apparently railing against, but unlike people who live to censor others, I can use my brain and know that she has opinions, we don't agree, and that's fine.

    Sounds like the problem might be someone is making rules that they don't follow and don't have to follow.

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday November 25 2021, @12:03PM (3 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday November 25 2021, @12:03PM (#1199504)
    Sounds like a lot of (incorrect) hypotheticals, when there's actual, quoted, linked citations of what she said and where. Try reading that first, then rejoin us.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday November 25 2021, @01:56PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Thursday November 25 2021, @01:56PM (#1199531)
      It is spillover from node.js. EVERYTHING is a problem with node.js. It's too much to hope this kills it, but we can dream. If it takes rust down with it, that's acceptable collateral damage. Come on Santa, just one month to xmas!

    • (Score: 1) by khallow on Thursday November 25 2021, @02:45PM

      by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Thursday November 25 2021, @02:45PM (#1199539) Journal

      when there's actual, quoted, linked citations of what she said and where.

      For the node.js project as far as I can tell. Thus, it's always possible that she behaves properly for rust-related activities, say because someone there enforces the CoC or whatnot - one mask for Rust, a different one for node.js. When I looked at the Rust CoC [rust-lang.org], I didn't see anything about public statements made elsewhere. But then I didn't see anything about an exception for Rust Core developers either.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday November 28 2021, @02:27PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Sunday November 28 2021, @02:27PM (#1200216)

      Khallow is a conservative, therefore "rules for thee not for me" applies to everything he says. Censorship of conservatives? BAD! Censorship of people he doesn't like? GOOD! I wish he was more complex.