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posted by janrinok on Thursday November 25 2021, @07:08AM   Printer-friendly
from the CoCs dept.

https://github.com/rust-lang/team/pull/671

The entire moderation team resigns, effective immediately. This resignation is done in protest of the Core Team placing themselves unaccountable to anyone but themselves.

As a result of such structural unaccountability, we have been unable to enforce the Rust Code of Conduct to the standards the community expects of us and to the standards we hold ourselves to. To leave under these circumstances deeply pains us, and we apologize to all of those that we have let down. In recognition that we are out of options from the perspective of Rust Governance, we feel as though we have no course remaining to us but to step down and make this statement.

In so doing, we would offer a few suggestions to the community writ large:

  • We suggest that Rust Team Members come to a consensus on a process for oversight over the Core Team. Currently, they are answerable only to themselves, which is a property unique to them in contrast to all other Rust teams.

  • In the interest of not perpetuating unaccountability, we recommend that the replacement for the Mod Team be made by Rust Team Members not on the Core Team.
  • We suggest that the future Mod Team, with advice from Rust Team Members, proactively decide how best to handle and discover unhealthy conflict among Rust Team Members. We suggest that the Mod Team work with the Foundation in obtaining resources for professional mediation.

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  • (Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday November 25 2021, @01:48PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday November 25 2021, @01:48PM (#1199528)
    CoC-sucker detected. Seriously, this is the problem with a Coc - it leads to policing via violations of the CoC instead of addressing behaviour that is ass-hat because it's ass-hat.

    Naming specific people on this site, ON THIS SITE, is on topic. It's not like he's naming them elsewhere (which is part of why the rust moderation team has their panties in a twist - who goves a shit about posts on twitter Upset about it - fight on twitter, where it's in context. Or put on your big boy pants and ignore it instead of dragging drama into development processes). Time for CoC to die. Again, when someone does stupid shit address it directly, not through CoC-language-policing.

    Back in the real world (you know, work) we don't have a written code of conduct except for how we expect our customers to behave (because some of them are assholes). It's understood we will treat them properly because we're adults, whether they act like it or not. Same as we don't have a code of conduct for how we treat each other. Because we're adults. And we have each other's backs.

    If you need a CoC to regulate conduct on a team, you don't have a team. And a CoC cannot fix that. And the CoC police will always be held in contempt by the people doing the real work, same as HR is a tool of management to control workers.

    There's nothing wrong with being an SJW or woke - but address problems by naming them, without invoking the legalistic bullshit of a CoC.

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