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The entire moderation team resigns, effective immediately. This resignation is done in protest of the Core Team placing themselves unaccountable to anyone but themselves.
As a result of such structural unaccountability, we have been unable to enforce the Rust Code of Conduct to the standards the community expects of us and to the standards we hold ourselves to. To leave under these circumstances deeply pains us, and we apologize to all of those that we have let down. In recognition that we are out of options from the perspective of Rust Governance, we feel as though we have no course remaining to us but to step down and make this statement.
In so doing, we would offer a few suggestions to the community writ large:
We suggest that Rust Team Members come to a consensus on a process for oversight over the Core Team. Currently, they are answerable only to themselves, which is a property unique to them in contrast to all other Rust teams.
- In the interest of not perpetuating unaccountability, we recommend that the replacement for the Mod Team be made by Rust Team Members not on the Core Team.
- We suggest that the future Mod Team, with advice from Rust Team Members, proactively decide how best to handle and discover unhealthy conflict among Rust Team Members. We suggest that the Mod Team work with the Foundation in obtaining resources for professional mediation.
(Score: 2, Informative) by janrinok on Thursday November 25 2021, @06:30PM (7 children)
"It is inherently political"? - which party introduced it? Who supported it? Who passed it into law? Oh', that's right - neither side has. It isn't, in my view, the least bit political - unless you want to try blaming the 'other side' for it being a story at all. This has nothing to do with your government, your representatives or how you voted. So please leave your politics out of this.
It is a story about software production - and in particular one specific language. It is related to CoCs and SJWs, but there is nothing there that means that you have to introduce national politics at all. SJWs don't belong to any particular party. Perhaps you understand now why the rest of the world is standing back and watching with a mixture of shock and amusement at the bizarre polarisation that we are witnessing in the US that is affecting everything you do.
If it falls within the political nexus then it is fair game - otherwise please discuss the topic itself.
(Score: 1, Troll) by Runaway1956 on Thursday November 25 2021, @07:09PM (4 children)
The concept of CoC is political. It is advanced by SJWs of various sorts, and approved of by activist groups that are affiliated with the cultural revolution. CoC is a perfect tool of lib/dem/progressive activists. You can't discuss CoC without introducing identity politics. I think you are terribly mistaken if you believe otherwise.
If you're trying to say that it's not just American politics, well, of course you are right. It isn't specific to any nation, any party, any ethnicity, or whatever else we might imagine. It probably can't be seen as 'global' yet, but it pervades the western world.
(Score: 5, Insightful) by janrinok on Thursday November 25 2021, @07:40PM (3 children)
It isn't any specific group of people as you are suggesting. Revolution is only another word for change. A revolution in transport or medical care or scientific endeavour is not something to be held back out of fear. Those who fought for emancipation were ridiculed and punished before they were finally successful. Now you would call them SJW. It's funny how 'enlightened' we think we are today. Women do have a hard time entering professions that are predominantly male dominated. It isn't just a matter of skills or ability. But look at some of those that have been successful Grace Hopper, Katherine Johnson, Margaret Hamilton, Marie Curie. Women were not allowed to be doctors until long after men. Where there is sexual discrimination, or any kind of discrimination, there is a waste of human potential.
On the other hand, those who do their cause no good whatsoever, by abusing a CoC to get an unfair advantage or to unfairly victimise somebody should be called out for their acts.
I am not suggesting how you should decide who is right or wrong in the topic under discussion but one thing I am certain about - it is not politics unless you are trying to push your own political viewpoint. "You can't discuss CoC without introducing identity politics" and "CoC is a perfect tool of lib/dem/progressive activists" are, in my opinion, just how you want to view it and they are based on your own political views.
Our judgement should be based on merit and merit alone. As others have said here in this discussion, leave your politics outside of the workplace and, for that matter, out of discussions that do not warrant them.
(Score: 0, Troll) by Runaway1956 on Thursday November 25 2021, @08:09PM (2 children)
Sorry, but you're wrong. There has never been a CoC written that wasn't politically motivated. Identity politics is the underlying reason for everything related to a CoC.
(Score: 2, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday November 25 2021, @09:44PM
Hey runaway, still a whingey boomer? Cool stuff, go donate to some scammers or something.
(Score: 2, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday November 25 2021, @10:08PM
Sorry bud - would reply but I gotta get started on the War against Christmas and pushing mind control vaccines. Us Dems are real crafty at hiding our political agenda.
(Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Friday November 26 2021, @12:20AM
You have a very myopic view of politics if you think that it must always involve either a "party" or a "law".
...and you are beyond redemption as long as you keep believing there's ever only two sides to a political issue.
They didn't. You did, by insisting that politics is always inflicted by a (political) party.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday November 26 2021, @07:08AM
FWIW back when NASA and its predecessors were accomplishing new stuff[1] the US Gov was fine with having literal Nazis working for them (SJW stuff be damned): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Paperclip [wikipedia.org]
See also: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wernher_von_Braun#Nazi_Party_membership [wikipedia.org]
[1] Rather than doing "re-runs" with newer tech and better graphics.